Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 04:30:07PM -0700, Dan Young wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 18:37, Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote: I'm curious why virtualbox has gained so much inertia so quickly. Based solely on the

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 06:37:19PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: I'm curious why virtualbox has gained so much inertia so quickly. Based solely on the number of kernel bug reports we get that seem to be related to it, I have almost zero confidence in it being reliable. Why are people choosing it

[Bug 696725] RPM doesn't create /var/run/amavisd

2011-06-10 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=696725 Matthias Haase matthias_ha...@bennewitz.com changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 02:00:57PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:   On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 08:01:06PM +1000, Chris Jones wrote:     I agree. As virtualization technology becomes more and more involved   and frequent on

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 09:03:16AM +0200, tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote: - Local shared folders. to share files from Fedora host to windows client. libvirt can do this now, and I think so can virt-manager (not checked). http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsFilesystems I'm not

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Tom Hughes
On 10/06/11 09:12, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 09:03:16AM +0200, tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote: - Running Windows application in a windows guest, runs very smooth, no delay in updating the GUI. You should try new versions. I've never had a problem with delays

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 06:37:19PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: I'm curious why virtualbox has gained so much inertia so quickly. Based solely on the number of kernel bug reports we get that seem to be related to it, I have almost zero confidence in it being reliable. Why are people choosing it

[Fwd: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - TODAY]

2011-06-10 Thread Jon Masters
---BeginMessage--- Hi Folks, We are hosting a Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual Fedora Activity Day today, at 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is to co-ordinate the bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating point). You can find a lot more detail here, along with all

New cfitsio in rawhide

2011-06-10 Thread Sergio Pascual
Hi, a new cfistio package (3.280) as landed in rawhide. Packages depending on cfitsio should be rebuilt. Regards, Sergio -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 09:18:49AM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: On 10/06/11 09:12, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 09:03:16AM +0200, tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote: - Running Windows application in a windows guest, runs very smooth, no delay in updating the GUI. You

Outage: Server Updates/Reboots - 2011-06-14 21:00 UTC

2011-06-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Outage: Server Updates/Reboots - 2011-06-14 21:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2011-06-14 21:00 UTC, which will last approximately 1 hour. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2011-06-14 21:00

Re: rawhide missed an implicit dependency for #!python

2011-06-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 06/10/2011 02:28 AM, Josh Stone wrote: On 06/02/2011 01:26 PM, Josh Stone wrote: Our dtrace script in systemtap-sdt-devel starts #!/usr/bin/python. Usually this leads to an implicit Requires: /usr/bin/python, but for some reason our rawhide build did not get this. The F15, F14, and F13

rawhide report: 20110610 changes

2011-06-10 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Jun 10 08:15:18 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 389-admin-1.1.16-1.fc16.i686 requires libadmsslutil.so.1 389-admin-1.1.16-1.fc16.i686 requires libadminutil.so.1 389-admin-1.1.16-1.fc16.x86_64

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/09/2011 06:37 PM, Dave Jones wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 02:00:57PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: Long list already from others but a couple of other things that are nice (dont know if qemu has these today, but didn't used to) (i) Variable size image for the VM - it grows

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Neal Becker
Dave Jones wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 02:00:57PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 08:01:06PM +1000, Chris Jones wrote: I agree. As virtualization technology becomes more and more involved and frequent on users systems, particularly with advanced Linux

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Thomas Sailer
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 08:50 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: The other feature is USB passthrough. (KVM can do this, but IIRC it only works for USB 1.1 devices and it's not integrated into the UI). Last time I tried I had to specify USB device and bus numbers. This is quite unusable, as they

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Thomas Sailer
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 10:24 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: - it's memory deduplication reimplements what already in-kernel (for the sake of cross platform) Kernel deduplication runs amok on my machine. When I have two guests, one Windows, one Rawhide, running under kvm/qemu, kernel

Re: Provenpackager help for razertool removal

2011-06-10 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 05.06.2011, 13:19 +0200 schrieb Nicola Soranzo: razertool package is dead upstream razercfg [1] it the successor of razertool. If somebody packages it up, it would be nice to have the package properly obsolete razertool. Regards, Christoph [1]

[perl-Newt] Perl 5.14 mass rebuild

2011-06-10 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
commit 5b996572e5f94e81faea0fb17c4d679849caa698 Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Date: Fri Jun 10 14:35:15 2011 +0200 Perl 5.14 mass rebuild perl-Newt.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Newt.spec b/perl-Newt.spec index

[perl-PBS] Perl 5.14 mass rebuild

2011-06-10 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
commit 4d7d2773aaae65d4fc4b2c142824d9c87cc3dd75 Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Date: Fri Jun 10 14:35:42 2011 +0200 Perl 5.14 mass rebuild perl-PBS.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-PBS.spec b/perl-PBS.spec index

systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Denys Vlasenko
Hi Lennart, systemd is eating a lot more memory than any other init process I ever played with. Granted, systemd does a bit more that typical init, but I think using *eleven plus megabytes* of malloced space is a bit much. systemctl --all shows 258 units total on my machine, thus systemd uses

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 06/09/2011 07:44 PM, Chris Jones wrote: Also, for those that may not be aware, Virtualbox can be installed in just 2 commands in your Fedora system. Assuming you have wget installed. ... ~$ su wget

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/10/2011 03:07 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: I understand your desire to replace everything by systemd. I really do. syslogd, klogd, mount, fsck, and a dozen other things I forget or don't know. You're exaggerating. Why does systemd link against libpam? systemd does logins now, not

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:08:26AM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: (i) Variable size image for the VM - it grows to accommodate need Interested to know why sparse images or qcow2 don't fulfil your needs. These have been supported in KVM (and Xen) since forever. (ii) Easy to

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:22:37AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: 2. Support decent graphics mode in guests. (After installing guest additions, a winxp guest on fedora host can run in any graphics resolution. I don't think qemu/kvm does this). With SPICE, maximum resolution is 2560x1600. Rich.

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Steve Clark
On 06/10/2011 09:36 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: On 06/10/2011 03:07 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: I understand your desire to replace everything by systemd. I really do. syslogd, klogd, mount, fsck, and a dozen other things I forget or don't know. You're exaggerating. Why does systemd link against

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Steve Clark
On 06/10/2011 09:07 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: Hi Lennart, systemd is eating a lot more memory than any other init process I ever played with. Granted, systemd does a bit more that typical init, but I think using *eleven plus megabytes* of malloced space is a bit much. systemctl --all shows

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/10/2011 03:59 PM, Steve Clark wrote: On 06/10/2011 09:36 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: systemd does not take the system down when it crashes. It catches the signal, dumps core and freezes, but does not exit. ^^^ So you just end up with a froze system instead of a

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Mark Bidewell
Why are people choosing it over other solutions, and what can we change in qemu/kvm to get users using that instead ? Dave 1. Easy setup of networking (bridged). 2. Support decent graphics mode in guests.  (After installing guest additions, a winxp guest on fedora host can run in any

Re: Orphaning Slim

2011-06-10 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 09.06.2011, 13:40 +0400 schrieb Lucas: What kind of relation between Xfce maintainers and SLIM. The Fedora Xfce SIG considered SLIM but we didn't use it because (at least at that time) it had some problems with ConsoleKit. We are still trying to get rid of GDM but we are

Election Results for FESCo and Fedora Board seats

2011-06-10 Thread Jared K. Smith
I'm happy to announce the results of our recent round of elections for at-large seats on the Fedora Board and FESCo, and FAmSCo. The results are as follows: FESCo There were five FESCo seats up for election this cycle. A total of 200 ballots were cast in the FESCo election. Each of

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: They are available, but I think you have to build them yourself from source. All the information is here: This is not an argument for libvirt/kvm/qemu/spice but against. Here's some constructive advice: 1. Give the Red Hat virtualization tools one, unique name and

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Adam Jackson
On 6/10/11 10:39 AM, Mark Bidewell wrote: To add to the point about graphics support there is also the fact that GNOME3/Unity will only run with accelerated graphics which only VirtualBox supports. I have Gnome 3 running with software GL. I'll probably be blogging about it soon, it's not

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Tom Hughes
On 10/06/11 16:12, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Richard W.M. Jones wrote: They are available, but I think you have to build them yourself from source. All the information is here: 2. Make guest additions dead simple to install. Having to compile them with a Windows DDK is not dead simple.

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Tom Hughes on 06/10/2011 10:25 AM wrote: Actually building the driver (once I'd downloaded the 620Mb DDK) was quite easy. I'm still scratching my head over how to actually install it though ;-) That was only the graphics driver anyway - what I really want is the agent for the clipboard

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Tom Hughes
On 10/06/11 16:54, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Tom Hughes on 06/10/2011 10:25 AM wrote: Actually building the driver (once I'd downloaded the 620Mb DDK) was quite easy. I'm still scratching my head over how to actually install it though ;-) That was only the graphics driver anyway - what I

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Thomas Sailer
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 14:29 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: There's a bug for these issues (no resolution though): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541230 My case was way more extreme, one core pretty much fully used by ksmd. It was with late F14, just before the release of F15.

Re: Orphaning Slim

2011-06-10 Thread Lucas
On 06/10/2011 07:04 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 09.06.2011, 13:40 +0400 schrieb Lucas: What kind of relation between Xfce maintainers and SLIM. The Fedora Xfce SIG considered SLIM but we didn't use it because (at least at that time) it had some problems with ConsoleKit.

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 15:36 +0200, Michal Schmidt wrote: Why does systemd link against libpam? systemd does logins now, not /bin/login or gdm or ...? to implement PAMName= (man systemd.exec) I don't see any users of this feature on my F15. I searched with Google and come up empty too. But

Re: [FHS] helper scripts location

2011-06-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 12:14:45PM +0200, 80 wrote: Hi, I'm reviewing osc and osc-source_validators (osc is Opensuse Build Service CLI, the latter a plugin to the former). An issue arose about helpers script location: 1) Fedora packaging guidelines suggests helpers *should go* /usr/libexec

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 16:11 +0200, Michal Schmidt wrote: On 06/10/2011 03:59 PM, Steve Clark wrote: On 06/10/2011 09:36 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: systemd does not take the system down when it crashes. It catches the signal, dumps core and freezes, but does not exit.

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Lucas
On 06/10/2011 08:42 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 15:36 +0200, Michal Schmidt wrote: Why does systemd link against libpam? systemd does logins now, not /bin/login or gdm or ...? to implement PAMName= (man systemd.exec) I don't see any users of this feature on my F15. I

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote: It's the *fourth* largest process on my system! # ldd `which systemd` 1) Looking at what libraries a binary links to a is a terrible way to optimize memory usage; try massif, say 2) It'd be a lot more productive to be

[389-devel] Please review: Bug 706472 - [console] java exception throw in UI, but user gets created

2011-06-10 Thread Rich Megginson
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=706472 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=504157action=diff https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=504159 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=504157action=edit -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Bodhi v0.8 in production

2011-06-10 Thread Luke Macken
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates Frontend Web/Client Changes --- * Buildroot Override Management http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bodhi/BuildRootOverrides * Make update notes mandatory (fesco#457) * Gracefully handle invalid update template values

Heads up: protobuf .so version bump in Rawhide

2011-06-10 Thread BJ Dierkes
Hello all, I've pushed the latest protobuf-2.4.1 to Rawhide, which bumps libprotobuf.so.6 to libprotobuf.so.7. This appears to affect the following base packages: * libcompizconfig * mozc * mumble * protobuf-c The primary maintainers of the above have been

orphaning xine-lib, EOL'ing phonon-backend-xine

2011-06-10 Thread Rex Dieter
The labor of love that was maintaining xine-lib has passed, as it will no longer be a dependency in f16's kde stack in any form. As such, I'm orphaning it. Kevin Kofler has offered to take ownership, though I'd venture he'd welcome any comaintainer assistance offered. In a similar vein,

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Neal Becker
Neal Becker wrote: Dave Jones wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 02:00:57PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 08:01:06PM +1000, Chris Jones wrote: I agree. As virtualization technology becomes more and more involved and frequent on users systems, particularly

Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
The 3.0 kernels are not working for me. (A cpu lockup is reporting during boot.) I am wondering if things are broken for everyone where I should probably just wait for updates and try again, or if I should get a picture of the traceback and file a bug? -- devel mailing list

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-10 Thread Tom London
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: The 3.0 kernels are not working for me. (A cpu lockup is reporting during boot.) I am wondering if things are broken for everyone where I should probably just wait for updates and try again, or if I should get a picture of

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-10 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: The 3.0 kernels are not working for me. (A cpu lockup is reporting during boot.) I am wondering if things are broken for everyone where I should probably just wait for updates and try again, or if I should get a picture of

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 16:11 +0200, Michal Schmidt wrote: On 06/10/2011 03:59 PM, Steve Clark wrote: On 06/10/2011 09:36 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: systemd does not take the system down when it crashes. It catches the

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-10 Thread Tom London
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: The 3.0 kernels are not working for me. (A cpu lockup is reporting during boot.) I am wondering if things are broken for everyone where I should

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-10 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 06/10/2011 02:19 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: The 3.0 kernels are not working for me. (A cpu lockup is reporting during boot.) I am wondering if things are broken for everyone where I should probably just wait for updates and try again, or if I should get a picture of the traceback and file a

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:12:50AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Richard W.M. Jones wrote: They are available, but I think you have to build them yourself from source. All the information is here: This is not an argument for libvirt/kvm/qemu/spice but against. Here's some

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 02:13:39PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: Just to followup, to setup bridged net on kvm I need to reboot my server. That's a non-starter. I would be very surprised if rebooting was really needed. (But conversely *not* very surprised if the instructions said you need to

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/11/2011 12:36 AM, mike cloaked wrote: Would be nice to see the systemd author join this discussion? I am sure you can get answers when someone is off vacation. However what would be really nice is to redirect systemd discussions to its upstream mailing list. Fedora devel is hardly the

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 01:19:25PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: The 3.0 kernels are not working for me. (A cpu lockup is reporting during boot.) I am wondering if things are broken for everyone where I should probably just wait for updates and try again, or if I should get a picture of the

Re: [FHS] helper scripts location

2011-06-10 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 10/06/2011 18:56, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit : I don't actually see this. Could you point me to the quote and section? /usr/libincludes object files, libraries, and internal binaries that are not intended to be executed directly by users or shell scripts.

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: If you want excellent desktop usability, then organize a group and make the work and patches happen. I knew this would be the response, but I do not hold it against you. If anyone wants to hire me and pay me to do this full-time job's worth of work I'd be glad to. ;)

Re: [FHS] helper scripts location

2011-06-10 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 21:23 +0200, Haïkel Guémar a écrit : I spent some time yesterday talking with opensuse guys on irc, since /usr/libexec has not been blessed by FHS, they won't move helpers from /usr/lib which is FHS-compliant location. I think that packaging guidelines should

Re: systemd memory usage

2011-06-10 Thread Adam Jackson
On 6/10/11 9:07 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: At the very least, I would like to see its memory consumption to go down substantially. Let's try to turn this into something constructive. I'll start with David Malcolm's rather nifty, if unpolished, 'heap' plugin for gdb:

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 15:09:02 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel clydekunkel7...@cox.net wrote: Couldn't tell you about lockups since if root is on anything with raid underlying, dracut drops to a shell. You are on the bz: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=710646 Hopefully, someone

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 20:17:46 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Works very well for me, but: - Make sure you're running kernel-3.0-0.rc2.git0.2.fc16 with the ftrace bug fixed (thanks Kyle). Done. - Make sure you upgrade module-init-tools *before* installing the 3.0

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/11/2011 12:36 AM, mike cloaked wrote: Would be nice to see the systemd author join this discussion? I am sure you can get answers when someone is off vacation.  However what would be really nice is to redirect

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-10 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 15:06 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 20:17:46 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Works very well for me, but: - Make sure you're running kernel-3.0-0.rc2.git0.2.fc16 with the ftrace bug fixed (thanks Kyle). Done. -

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:44 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: I guess that your reference to moving to upstream indicates that systemd is now sufficiently established that discussion of problems is an upstream issue for bug triage/fixing? I would imagine that the user list may

Re: [FHS] helper scripts location

2011-06-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 09:23:54PM +0200, Haïkel Guémar wrote: Le 10/06/2011 18:56, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit : I don't actually see this. Could you point me to the quote and section? /usr/libincludes object files, libraries, and internal binaries that are not intended to be executed

Re: rawhide missed an implicit dependency for #!python

2011-06-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:59:18 +0300 Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org wrote: On 06/10/2011 02:28 AM, Josh Stone wrote: On 06/02/2011 01:26 PM, Josh Stone wrote: Our dtrace script in systemtap-sdt-devel starts #!/usr/bin/python. Usually this leads to an implicit Requires:

Re: systemd memory usage

2011-06-10 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:55:14 -0400 Adam Jackson wrote: Domain KindDetailCount Allocated size - --- --- -- uncategorized 2064 bytes5,370 11,083,680 Probably the SELinux file labelling

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 06/10/2011 04:44 PM, mike cloaked wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Sundarammethe...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/11/2011 12:36 AM, mike cloaked wrote: Would be nice to see the systemd author join this discussion? I am sure you can get answers when someone is off vacation. However

Re: systemd memory usage

2011-06-10 Thread David Malcolm
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 15:55 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: On 6/10/11 9:07 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: At the very least, I would like to see its memory consumption to go down substantially. Let's try to turn this into something constructive. I'll start with David Malcolm's rather nifty, if

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Chris Jones
Quoting Thomas Sailer sai...@sailer.dynip.lugs.ch: Also, I have a strange card reader which I would love to use under some form of virtualisation, as the accompanying application only runs under very old versions of windows. The card reader has the misfeature that it requires firmware to be

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Chris Jones
Quoting Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov: Make it one command: yum install http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.0.8/VirtualBox-4.0-4.0.8_71778_fedora15-1.x86_64.rpm (or VirtualBox-4.0-4.0.8_71778_fedora15-1.i686.rpm for 32-bit systems) OMG, I am such a dick for not even

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Customers ask us to make the changes they want -- for server use and scalability -- and KVM is absolutely the best in that area as a result.  See many recent benchmarks. Usability on single desktops is, well ... we

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2011-06-10 Thread Sergio Belkin
Hi, I've noted a difference between f15 and f14 on the first one mentioned, running the following it fails: ./configure LDFLAGS=-no-install checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p...

Re: Different behaviour on gcc 4.6?

2011-06-10 Thread Sergio Belkin
Sorry, I was typing on a netbook :P and the mail it was sent without subject -- -- Sergio Belkin  http://www.sergiobelkin.com Watch More TV http://sebelk.blogspot.com LPIC-2 Certified - http://www.lpi.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/10/2011 03:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: what would be really nice is to redirect systemd discussions to its upstream mailing list. Fedora devel is hardly the best place for it. Rahul Beg to differ - rather vehemently too - politely but vehemently. systemd is only available in

Re: orphaning xine-lib, EOL'ing phonon-backend-xine

2011-06-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rex Dieter wrote: The labor of love that was maintaining xine-lib has passed, as it will no longer be a dependency in f16's kde stack in any form. As such, I'm orphaning it. Kevin Kofler has offered to take ownership, though I'd venture he'd welcome any comaintainer assistance offered.

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Denys Vlasenko wrote: Mem total:2035840 anon:431208 map:78924 free:419084 [snip] 1 15384 11856 13664 1340 11752 0 132 /sbin/init So this singleton process is taking 0.76% of your RAM. What the heck are you complaining about? Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list

Re: Different behaviour on gcc 4.6?

2011-06-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Sergio Belkin wrote: | int | { | |; |return 0; | } This is not a valid C program. Maybe GCC 4.5 accepted this junk?! GCC 4.6 is right to error on it. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-10 Thread John Dulaney
It was for me until this morning. Virtual box killed it (beware of vb). -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/11/2011 05:20 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: Lets be blunt here - he pushed very very very hard on these very lists to get systemd in - now its in F15 and there are problems - so no punting please. Upstream and fedora are the same for syste That is a gross over simplification. Fedora is

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/11/2011 05:35 AM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: Why would many prospective contributors choose to work on KVM's desktop usability when VirtualBox's is already superior? Because they like KVM and use it because of other advantages like performance? Because they disagree with handing copyright

Re: Different behaviour on gcc 4.6?

2011-06-10 Thread Sergio Belkin
2011/6/10 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Sergio Belkin wrote: | int | { | |; |return 0; | } This is not a valid C program. Maybe GCC 4.5 accepted this junk?! GCC 4.6 is right to error on it.        Kevin Kofler -- Thanks Kevin, but not so fast ;) ! it was my fault, I've

Re:

2011-06-10 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Hello, On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Sergio Belkin seb...@gmail.com wrote: ./configure LDFLAGS=-no-install snip configure:3659: gcc   -no-install conftest.c  5 gcc: error: unrecognized option '-no-install' Do you have any idea? -no-install, which the command explicitly includes, is a

Re:

2011-06-10 Thread Sergio Belkin
2011/6/11 Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz: Hello, On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Sergio Belkin seb...@gmail.com wrote: ./configure LDFLAGS=-no-install snip configure:3659: gcc   -no-install conftest.c  5 gcc: error: unrecognized option '-no-install' Do you have any idea? -no-install,

File Mojolicious-1.42.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by yaneti

2011-06-10 Thread Yanko Kaneti
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Mojolicious: 5432fa78163e8726d7655292e2d8c4b2 Mojolicious-1.42.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Mojolicious] Update from upstream 1.42

2011-06-10 Thread Yanko Kaneti
commit 035a578805022a3d1bb1c40d042682c519d3f944 Author: Yanko Kaneti yan...@declera.com Date: Fri Jun 10 09:27:00 2011 +0300 Update from upstream 1.42 .gitignore|1 + perl-Mojolicious.spec |6 +- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 2

[Bug 696725] RPM doesn't create /var/run/amavisd

2011-06-10 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=696725 --- Comment #8 from Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org 2011-06-10 03:59:26 EDT --- It's /etc/tmpfiles.d, not /etc/tmpfile.d; the

File Catalyst-Engine-PSGI-0.13.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by mmaslano

2011-06-10 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI: 4b48a53b1ecf5c236488de57c773e9f0 Catalyst-Engine-PSGI-0.13.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI] update to 0.13

2011-06-10 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
commit e44216ef301d49d672b39aa0c3128ea423fbdf8a Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Date: Fri Jun 10 12:42:32 2011 +0200 update to 0.13 .gitignore |1 + perl-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI.spec |6 -- sources|2 +- 3 files

[perl-NOCpulse-Utils] Perl 5.14 mass rebuild

2011-06-10 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
commit bcb4e29958ea0b9df73f1a95ec901c859900ee9c Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Date: Fri Jun 10 13:33:35 2011 +0200 Perl 5.14 mass rebuild perl-NOCpulse-Utils.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-NOCpulse-Utils.spec

[Bug 712333] perl-Catalyst-Engine-PSGI-0.13 is available

2011-06-10 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=712333 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[perl-perlmenu] Perl 5.14 mass rebuild

2011-06-10 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
commit 1ee10445a080cf926b34ff0284ae3aa8643452ac Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Date: Fri Jun 10 14:16:20 2011 +0200 Perl 5.14 mass rebuild perl-perlmenu.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-perlmenu.spec

[Bug 696725] RPM doesn't create /var/run/amavisd

2011-06-10 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=696725 --- Comment #13 from Trever Adams night...@hotmail.com 2011-06-10 09:05:13 EDT --- Sorry, I thought I had the right

[netcdf-perl] Perl 5.14 mass rebuild

2011-06-10 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
commit ea6c57a6baf64f272281d99ee07fc643c02dbe6e Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Date: Fri Jun 10 16:06:22 2011 +0200 Perl 5.14 mass rebuild netcdf-perl.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/netcdf-perl.spec b/netcdf-perl.spec

[Bug 709269] perl-SOAP-Lite provides bogus perl(LWP::Protocol)

2011-06-10 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=709269 --- Comment #8 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-06-11 00:27:10 EDT --- perl-SOAP-Lite-0.712-5.fc14 has

[Bug 707442] sqlsh's help needs IO::Scalar and Term::ReadLine::Gnu

2011-06-10 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707442 --- Comment #8 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-06-11 00:31:10 EDT --- perl-SQL-Shell-1.14-8.fc15 has

[Bug 707442] sqlsh's help needs IO::Scalar and Term::ReadLine::Gnu

2011-06-10 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707442 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added

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