Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/08/30 15:06 (GMT+1000) Chris Jones composed: I can't see any reason for floppies these days considering their extreme price per data unit as opposed to usb memory. For some people the price of floppies is a sunk cost, or was never a cost at all (e.g. me, who has over a hundred empty

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread drago01
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2011/08/30 15:06 (GMT+1000) Chris Jones composed: I can't see any reason for floppies these days considering their extreme price per data unit as opposed to usb memory. For some people the price of floppies is a

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 08:40 +0200, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2011/08/30 15:06 (GMT+1000) Chris Jones composed: I can't see any reason for floppies these days considering their extreme price per data unit as opposed to usb

Orphaned: vpnc

2011-08-30 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/vpnc vpnc is a VPN client compatible with Cisco EasyVPN. Although I use vpnc daily, I only need/use the old version in RHEL 5, and I don't have a machine on which I can conveniently study Fedora bug reports. Therefore I have released ownership of

Proventester karma needed for libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc15 [CRITPATH]

2011-08-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc15 This CRITPATH package has been in update-testing for 20 days without any karma. The same package went to stable in F16 a week ago with karma automatism. If you use Samba, SSSD, openchange, certmonger, evolution-mapi or notmuch,

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 03:33:04 +0200, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: No, it means that (unless this was recently fixed) you have to modprobe it manually (e.g. from rc.local) because nothing bothers trying to modprobe it for you anymore. IMHO, this is really broken, but the

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 06:50:11AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 03:33:04 +0200, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: No, it means that (unless this was recently fixed) you have to modprobe it manually (e.g. from rc.local) because nothing bothers trying to

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:41:57 +0100, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: ACPI turned out to be full of lies. The real problem is that machines will report a floppy controller even if they have no floppy drives attached, and the ACPI function that's supposed to return a list of

rawhide report: 20110830 changes

2011-08-30 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Aug 30 08:15:06 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- FlightGear-2.0.0-6.fc16.x86_64 requires libosgViewer.so.74()(64bit) FlightGear-2.0.0-6.fc16.x86_64 requires libosgUtil.so.74()(64bit)

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com said: On 08/29/2011 10:22 PM, Chris Adams wrote: It is very irritating, since I only use floppies when I really need to, Is this due to the need to boot into DOS to run a firmware utility or something similar? If so, you can create a

[Bug 715745] FTBFS perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-1.fc16

2011-08-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=715745 Bug 715745 depends on bug 716369, which changed state. Bug 716369 Summary: nocpulse-common-2.1.22 cannot be installed because

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 13:41 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 06:50:11AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 03:33:04 +0200, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: No, it means that (unless this was recently fixed) you have to modprobe

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 03:20:22PM +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 13:41 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: ACPI turned out to be full of lies. The real problem is that machines will report a floppy controller even if they have no floppy drives attached, and the ACPI function

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:26:39 +0100, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: Or just add floppy-support and analog-joystick-support packages that include appropriate modprobe.conf fragments, and have documentation that instructs the user to install them. To make this more precise,

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 08:09:51AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:26:39 +0100, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: Or just add floppy-support and analog-joystick-support packages that include appropriate modprobe.conf fragments, and have documentation

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:37:16 +0100, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 08:09:51AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:26:39 +0100, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: Or just add floppy-support and

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 08/30/2011 08:02 AM, Chris Adams wrote: There are still things in the real world that exclusively use floppy disks, and they aren't going away as rapidly as some seem to think. No need to tell me. I work everyday with SCO Unix machines that have no idea what a USB device is. I've just found

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Tom Hughes
On 30/08/11 14:23, Bruno Wolff III wrote: I'll need to test it. Right now I use explicit modprobe commands in rc.local, which isn't good for packages. I looked at modprobe.conf documentation and it doesn't seem like it uses those files to determine what to load, only what to do if it is

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 02:50:10PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: On 30/08/11 14:23, Bruno Wolff III wrote: I'll need to test it. Right now I use explicit modprobe commands in rc.local, which isn't good for packages. I looked at modprobe.conf documentation and it doesn't seem like it uses those

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:50:10 +0100, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 30/08/11 14:23, Bruno Wolff III wrote: I'll need to test it. Right now I use explicit modprobe commands in rc.local, which isn't good for packages. I looked at modprobe.conf documentation and it doesn't seem

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread John5342
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:23, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:37:16 +0100,  Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 08:09:51AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:26:39 +0100,   Matthew Garrett

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/08/30 08:40 (GMT+0200) drago01 composed: Felix Miata wrote: ...OM... CD/DVD ? -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata ***

[Bug 712886] perl-App-Asciio keyboard shortcuts don't work and the file saved in a binary

2011-08-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=712886 --- Comment #9 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-08-30 10:41:44 EDT --- perl-Gtk2-1.224-2.fc15 has been

[Bug 712886] perl-App-Asciio keyboard shortcuts don't work and the file saved in a binary

2011-08-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=712886 --- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-08-30 10:41:18 EDT --- perl-Gtk2-1.224-2.fc16 has been

[Bug 712886] perl-App-Asciio keyboard shortcuts don't work and the file saved in a binary

2011-08-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=712886 --- Comment #8 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-08-30 10:41:32 EDT --- perl-Gtk2-1.224-2.el6 has been

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matthew Garrett (mj...@srcf.ucam.org) said: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 02:50:10PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: On 30/08/11 14:23, Bruno Wolff III wrote: I'll need to test it. Right now I use explicit modprobe commands in rc.local, which isn't good for packages. I looked at modprobe.conf

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:49:37AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Matthew Garrett (mj...@srcf.ucam.org) said: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 02:50:10PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: Or modules-load.d if you want to force load a module. Oops. Yes, that's what I meant. Is there a reason that (at

Orphaning javassist

2011-08-30 Thread John5342
I don't use this package, I only took it over in order to get another package in which has since become irrelevant and most importantly although i know plenty about java (and ant) i have no clue at all about maven so this package could really do with a better owner. The package currently has only

F-16 Branched report: 20110830 changes

2011-08-30 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Aug 30 13:15:20 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 389-ds-base-1.2.9.0-1.fc16.2.x86_64 requires libnetsnmpagent.so.25()(64bit) 389-ds-base-1.2.9.0-1.fc16.2.x86_64 requires

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthew Garrett wrote: ACPI turned out to be full of lies. The real problem is that machines will report a floppy controller even if they have no floppy drives attached, and the ACPI function that's supposed to return a list of drives usually returns a mixture of falsehoods and untruths.

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 18:25 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Matthew Garrett wrote: ACPI turned out to be full of lies. The real problem is that machines will report a floppy controller even if they have no floppy drives attached, and the ACPI function that's supposed to return a list of drives

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthew Garrett wrote: There's no way to get any feedback from the gameport driver as to (a) whether there's anything plugged in, or (b) what is plugged in. We could have the gameport driver automatically pull in analog but that'd probably break people doing midi or using some more specialised

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 06:30:30PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: An Arch Linux user once pointed out to me that Arch (at the time) probed for analog joysticks using this udev rule: SUBSYSTEM==pnp, ENV{MODALIAS}!=?*, ATTRS{id}==PNPb02f, RUN+=/lib/udev/load-modules.sh analog (They have since

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 30.08.11 18:30, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: Matthew Garrett wrote: There's no way to get any feedback from the gameport driver as to (a) whether there's anything plugged in, or (b) what is plugged in. We could have the gameport driver automatically pull in analog

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 07:18:40PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 30.08.11 18:30, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: An Arch Linux user once pointed out to me that Arch (at the time) probed for analog joysticks using this udev rule: SUBSYSTEM==pnp, ENV{MODALIAS}!=?*,

Re: Proventester karma needed for libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc15 [CRITPATH]

2011-08-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc15 This CRITPATH package has been in update-testing for 20 days without any karma. The same package went to stable in F16 a week ago with karma

Re: Proventester karma needed for libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc15 [CRITPATH]

2011-08-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 18:31 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc15 This CRITPATH package has been in update-testing for 20 days without any karma. The same

Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, it's been a quiet week so far... I'm intending to update glibc for F16 using provenpackager privileges tomorrow to fix https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730856 using the patch submitted upstream at http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13013 , if the glibc upstream

[perl-Directory-Queue/el4] (3 commits) ...Merge branch 'master' into el4

2011-08-30 Thread stevetraylen
Summary of changes: c5605de... Perl mass rebuild (*) 6bb0886... Update 1.2 rhbz#73941. (*) 9ec119e... Merge branch 'master' into el4 (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl

[perl-Directory-Queue/el4: 3/3] Merge branch 'master' into el4

2011-08-30 Thread stevetraylen
commit 9ec119e20d39f6a40fcc4d00569589a01b97d19a Merge: ee2422e 6bb0886 Author: Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch Date: Tue Aug 30 20:18:49 2011 +0200 Merge branch 'master' into el4 .gitignore|1 + perl-Directory-Queue.spec |8 +++- sources |

[perl-Directory-Queue] Created tag perl-Directory-Queue-1.2-1.el4

2011-08-30 Thread stevetraylen
The unsigned tag 'perl-Directory-Queue-1.2-1.el4' was created. Tagger: Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch Date: Tue Aug 30 20:19:07 2011 +0200 Update 1.2 rhbz#73941. Changes since the last tag 'perl-Directory-Queue-1.1-1.el4': Marcela Mašláňová (1): Perl mass rebuild Steve Traylen

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 16:58 +0200, Jos Vos wrote: Don't let us all fall in the GNOME3 trap (assuming that all hardware now has accelerated graphics support, which is even more ridiculous, although GNOME3 has become useless for most people I know anyway). GNOME 3 does not do that. It has an

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 08/30/2011 09:02 AM, Chris Adams wrote: It isn't why I use floppies under Linux, but my mother's very expensive computerized embroidery machine uses floppies to transfer patterns. There are still things in the real world that exclusively use floppy disks, and they aren't going away as

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Simo Sorce wrote: It seem much more intelligent to add a package owners of floppies can install, so that 99.9% of the others do not have to wait forever for no reason. This goes against the principle that Fedora should Just Work on any hardware it encounters if at all possible. Kevin

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote: I feel your pain; a lot of perfectly good lab equipment has floppies too, but whenever practical, I'd recommend a USB floppy drive emulator from ipcas or http://www.rioc.us/ufr-usb-floppy-replacement.php or

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 08/30/2011 03:18 PM, Jef Spaleta wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov mailto:przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote: I feel your pain; a lot of perfectly good lab equipment has floppies too, but whenever practical, I'd recommend a USB

Re: Proventester karma needed for libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc15 [CRITPATH]

2011-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 07:43 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc15 This CRITPATH package has been in update-testing for 20 days without any karma. The same package went to stable in F16 a week ago with karma automatism. If you use

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 09:13:05PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Simo Sorce wrote: It seem much more intelligent to add a package owners of floppies can install, so that 99.9% of the others do not have to wait forever for no reason. This goes against the principle that Fedora should Just

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 21:13 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Simo Sorce wrote: It seem much more intelligent to add a package owners of floppies can install, so that 99.9% of the others do not have to wait forever for no reason. This goes against the principle that Fedora should Just Work on

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote: They connect to the floppy cable and look like a floppy drive. Bah, I'd think you'd want to go the other way if you could get an external usb based floppy reader which is autodetected on the usb bus.

Re: Proventester karma needed for libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc15 [CRITPATH]

2011-08-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 12:20 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 07:43 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc15 This CRITPATH package has been in update-testing for 20 days without any karma. The same package went to

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 08/30/2011 03:36 PM, Jef Spaleta wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov mailto:przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote: They connect to the floppy cable and look like a floppy drive. Bah, I'd think you'd want to go the other way if you could

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jef Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com said: Bah, I'd think you'd want to go the other way if you could get an external usb based floppy reader which is autodetected on the usb bus. Anything that hangs off the onboard floppy controller is going to need some lovin. These are for

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com said: Making boot hang for long periods can easily be seen as 'Not working properly' and therefore make default floppy support 'not possible'. At least this is the reasoning I see and agree with. How many systems are there that hang forever when the

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 14:55 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com said: Making boot hang for long periods can easily be seen as 'Not working properly' and therefore make default floppy support 'not possible'. At least this is the reasoning I see and agree

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com said: I said: A) 99.9% of users do not needed the floppy anymore B) I said hang for long periods and not forever, where here long is of course relative to modern machine boot times. You said: It seem much more intelligent to add a package

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Kofler wrote: Users who don't have a floppy drive and want to save some boot time can blacklist the driver manually. s/Us/Hack/ to make that sentence true. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- devel mailing list

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 15:12 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com said: I said: A) 99.9% of users do not needed the floppy anymore B) I said hang for long periods and not forever, where here long is of course relative to modern machine boot times. You

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com said: They do not 'hang', they just take longer to boot, sometimes a lot longer. How much longer? How many such machines? Again, I've booted systems without floppy drives but with floppy support loaded, and I haven't seen any significant hang.

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 08/30/2011 03:55 PM, Chris Adams wrote: How many systems are there that hang forever when the floppy module is loaded? I have never seen that happen, on systems with or without floppy drives, yet you seem to be saying it happens on vast numbers of them (99.9% in an earlier message). It's

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 04:25:18PM -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On 08/30/2011 03:55 PM, Chris Adams wrote: How many systems are there that hang forever when the floppy module is loaded? I have never seen that happen, on systems with or without floppy drives, yet you seem to be saying

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread John5342
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 21:12, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: In any case, instead of arguing semantics, can you answer my actual question?  How many systems hang when floppy.ko is loaded?  If it is a large number, it should be easy to point to lots of data. Ok, just some very

[389-devel] Please Review: (722292) Certain entries in DS are not updated properly when using WinSync API

2011-08-30 Thread Nathan Kinder
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722292 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=520685action=edit -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-devel

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-30 Thread Jeremiah Summers
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2011/08/29 15:04 (GMT-0700) Jeremiah Summers composed: I just repatched Anaconda to use 512M Literally? If so, does that work on systems with 512M installed but with 8M allocated to an onboard video chip? -- The

[Bug 712699] CVE-2011-2201 perl-Data-FormValidator: Reports invalid field as valid when untaint_all_constraints used [fedora-all]

2011-08-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=712699 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:33:06 -0700, Jeremiah Summers jmiah...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Literally I did, but as Adam just pointed out running Live just dumps the squashfs image to the drive and slaps grud on it. I'm not It actually dumps the ext4 image on the drive and then resizes it to fit

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:36, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:33:06 -0700,  Jeremiah Summers jmiah...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Literally I did, but as Adam just pointed out running Live just dumps the squashfs image to the drive and slaps grud on it. I'm not It

Re: [389-devel] Please Review: (722292) Certain entries in DS are not updated properly when using WinSync API

2011-08-30 Thread Nathan Kinder
Here is a revised patch to address some review comments: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=520694action=edit On 08/30/2011 01:31 PM, Nathan Kinder wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722292 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=520685action=edit --

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-30 Thread John Reiser
It would be nice to get rid of the embedded ext4 image now that squashfs supports special files and extended attributes (needed for selinuix labels), but there are some other roadblocks that will block that change for the near future. Where is this issue being tracked? -- -- devel mailing

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Jones
The argument that some older hardware do not have USB support and require floppy support is moot. I have 3 PCs in total. 2 desktops and 1 file server. The 2 desktops run Ubuntu/Linux and the server running BSD. The server is an old desktop system that has had various upgrades and various

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Chris Jones chrisjo...@comcen.com.au said: I see it all the time. Some older hardware still requires floppies... It just seems like a generic defense statement for the fans of floppies and for those who insist on using them for god knows what reason. Again, please stop trying

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote: On 08/30/2011 03:55 PM, Chris Adams wrote: How many systems are there that hang forever when the floppy module is loaded?  I have never seen that happen, on systems with or without floppy drives, yet you

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Jef Spaleta
2011/8/30 Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz I hope no software is still doing this - that was idiotic 10 years ago, let alone now. (The purpose of the seek is to detect drives that can support only double density, i.e. 360K, 5.25 disks, not high density, i.e. 1.2M disks. It doesn't do anything

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/08/31 09:30 (GMT+1000) Chris Jones composed: And for the cheap price of PCs these days, whether it is building your own or grabbing an oem system, just upgrade to something that does have full usb support. So old PCs should fill landfills instead of going to people with no money for

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Jef Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8/30 Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz I hope no software is still doing this - that was idiotic 10 years ago, let alone now.  (The purpose of the seek is to detect drives that can support only double density, i.e. 360K,

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Jef Spaleta
2011/8/30 Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz The seek is there to detect the double-density _drive_ that was last shipped in PC XT: PC AT already had a high-density drive. Wikipedia tells me that the seek is there to detect hardware that became obsolete in 1984. you take the fun out of

Re: Orphaned: vpnc

2011-08-30 Thread Christian Krause
Hi, On 08/30/2011 01:42 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Although I use vpnc daily, I only need/use the old version in RHEL 5, and I don't have a machine on which I can conveniently study Fedora bug reports. Therefore I have released ownership of this package in Fedora 14-17. Since I have vpnc

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Michael Ekstrand
On 08/30/2011 06:30 PM, Chris Jones wrote: I see it all the time. Some older hardware still requires floppies... It just seems like a generic defense statement for the fans of floppies and for those who insist on using them for god knows what reason. Any hardware that is true to that statement

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 08/30/2011 06:40 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Again, please stop trying to tell me what hardware to use. Manufacturers will tell you what hardware to use. Very few manufacturers still produce drives and media. Sony has stopped[1] as of last year. So, if it takes the death of your floppy drive to

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 15:22:21 -0700, John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote: It would be nice to get rid of the embedded ext4 image now that squashfs supports special files and extended attributes (needed for selinuix labels), but there are some other roadblocks that will block that

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 15:22:21 -0700, John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote: It would be nice to get rid of the embedded ext4 image now that squashfs supports special files and extended attributes (needed for selinuix labels), but there are some other roadblocks that will block that

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Adams wrote: Leaving known-working hardware unusable at install is just rude and irritating when it is needed. There should be good justification, not just a bunch of developers don't use it anymore, so we don't think anybody else needs it. +1 Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Cronenworth wrote: Manufacturers will tell you what hardware to use. Very few manufacturers still produce drives and media. Sony has stopped[1] as of last year. Unless the EU bans them (like those standard incandescence lightbulbs), I don't think floppies will become completely

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Björn Persson wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Users who don't have a floppy drive and want to save some boot time can blacklist the driver manually. s/Us/Hack/ to make that sentence true. No. Users who want to tweak their system to the point of shaving a few seconds off their boot times should

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
Below is a proposed specfile for the floppy case. (Analog joystick would be very similar.) I haven't tested the package for functionality yet, but did test it with rpmbuild and rpmlint. Is this what we want? Is this ready for a formal review? Name: floppy-support Version:1.0

Re: Memory requirements (was: Re: Fedora 16 Alpha i386 does not install in VMWare)

2011-08-30 Thread Jeremiah Summers
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 22:02 +0200, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Brian C. Lane b...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 04:15:37PM -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote: In both cases I had 2

Re: Memory requirements (was: Re: Fedora 16 Alpha i386 does not install in VMWare)

2011-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 21:11 -0700, Jeremiah Summers wrote: I would say thank you but the tone I'm getting in the email seems rather reluctant to try and be as memory efficient as possible, a little bit like we just did it to stop your whining. I'm sure that's not the tone you mean and even if

Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, all. So, I'm looking at packaging tt-rss - an RSS reader implemented as a PHP webapp - for Fedora, since I run it on my own server. It became rapidly clear that it's a landmine of bundled PHP libraries and snippets and uncertain licensing. I'm unsure which of the things it bundles would be

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
Speaking about prototype and scriptaculous, I am sure that they are bundled also in Rails and if there are some Rails applications packaged, they will be included also in them. However I am not sure if they should be packaged separately or just copylibs. Vit Dne 31.8.2011 06:35, Adam

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-30 Thread Remi
From : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Duplication_of_system_libraries At this time JavaScript intended to be served to a web browser is specifically exempted from this but this will likely change in the future. This explain why so much .js libraries are bundled in so much

[Bug 734253] HTML::Template 2.10 versioning problem

2011-08-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734253 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[perl-Padre] 0.90 bump

2011-08-30 Thread Petr Pisar
commit fd425b4d4bed7a317143518452928720686f8b1d Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Mon Aug 29 18:31:16 2011 +0200 0.90 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Padre.spec | 141 +-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 56

[Bug 730275] perl-Padre-0.90 is available

2011-08-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730275 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

perl-HTML-Template versioning issue in F-16+

2011-08-30 Thread Ville Skyttä
FYI, perl-HTML-Template 2.10 in F-16+ has most likely broken at least the perl-HTML-Template-Expr and w3c-markup-validator packages in Fedora. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734253 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

File Locale-Codes-3.17.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2011-08-30 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Locale-Codes: f0181dd8bf625db584fddbd3f5e2143b Locale-Codes-3.17.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Locale-Codes] Import

2011-08-30 Thread Petr Pisar
commit ecfabf3fbec696537c717b66b527f77a104f3fb6 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Aug 30 11:44:35 2011 +0200 Import .gitignore |1 + perl-Locale-Codes.spec | 57 sources|1 + 3 files

[Bug 734420] New: perl-DateTime-TimeZone-1.36 is available

2011-08-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-DateTime-TimeZone-1.36 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734420 Summary: perl-DateTime-TimeZone-1.36 is available

[Bug 734419] New: perl-CPAN-Checksums-2.08 is available

2011-08-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-CPAN-Checksums-2.08 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734419 Summary: perl-CPAN-Checksums-2.08 is available Product:

[Bug 734419] perl-CPAN-Checksums-2.08 is available

2011-08-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734419 Petr Sabata psab...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

File CPAN-Checksums-2.08.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2011-08-30 Thread Petr Sabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-CPAN-Checksums: 058679056ade8ee885b8538fe195d84a CPAN-Checksums-2.08.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

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