Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 14:25 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: snip * Gstreamer plugins - Is it separate? Is anyone looking into that? They're currently separate branches of the usual -base, -good, and -bad GStreamer plugins. They will be merged in the near future, and will probably land in

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bastien Nocera (bnoc...@redhat.com) said: Any grand plans? Should we put up a feature page? I'd expect most of the support to end up in F13 updates, so I'm not sure a feature page really makes sense. Well, it's probably useful to list it simply from a PR/marketing standpoint. Does

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 10:03 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Bastien Nocera (bnoc...@redhat.com) said: Any grand plans? Should we put up a feature page? I'd expect most of the support to end up in F13 updates, so I'm not sure a feature page really makes sense. Well, it's probably

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On 05/20/2010 03:19 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Expect a patent fight before the end of this. Excerpt from http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=377 Addendum C: Summary for the lazy ... [a lot left out] With regard to patents, VP8 copies way too much from H.264 for anyone sane to be comfortable with

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/20/2010 08:38 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: On 05/20/2010 03:19 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Expect a patent fight before the end of this. Excerpt from http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=377 Addendum C: Summary for the lazy ... [a lot left out] With regard to patents, VP8

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, 20 May 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/20/2010 08:38 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: On 05/20/2010 03:19 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Expect a patent fight before the end of this. Excerpt from http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=377 Addendum C: Summary for the lazy ... [a lot left

Re: Quake3 security issue and non-responsive maintainer: Xavier Lamien

2010-05-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 11 May 2010 11:10:39 -0800 Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net wrote: Well, no, not if there's an easy way to find the existing stuff.  Is there a way to extract this info from Bugzilla?  I'd stick that query in my

Re: Quake3 security issue and non-responsive maintainer: Xavier Lamien

2010-05-20 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On 05/11/2010 10:03 PM, Thomas Spura wrote: Am Dienstag, den 11.05.2010, 17:47 +0800 schrieb Chen Lei: 2010/5/11 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com Hi https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/bugs/quake3 Quake 3 engine needs to be updated. The

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 14:25 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: I'd expect most of the support to end up in F13 updates, so I'm not sure a feature page really makes sense. This happens with a lot of our features anyway, but it does make a nice talking point and media splash to announce Fedora 14 is

Re: Packages depending on Yelp

2010-05-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/17/2010 06:49 AM, Chen Lei wrote: What is the recommended method? Two of the packages - deja-dup and simple-scan are mine and I have gotten a bug report to drop the Yelp dependency on deja-dup. Rahul I think it's the same case as man page, packages which

[Bug 594454] New: pls upgrade mldonkey

2010-05-20 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: pls upgrade mldonkey https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=594454 Summary: pls upgrade mldonkey Product: Fedora Version: 12

[Bug 594454] pls upgrade mldonkey

2010-05-20 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=594454 --- Comment #1 from Evert epm.augusti...@gmail.com 2010-05-20 13:49:07 EDT --- appologies this is a duplicate upgrade

[Bug 594454] pls upgrade mldonkey

2010-05-20 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=594454 Evert epm.augusti...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 10:03 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Bastien Nocera (bnoc...@redhat.com) said: Any grand plans? Should we put up a feature page? I'd expect most of the support to end up in F13 updates, so I'm not sure a feature page really makes sense. Well, it's probably

rpms/perl-POE-Component-IRC/F-13 0001-apply-fixes-for-rhbz-591215.patch, NONE, 1.1 perl-POE-Component-IRC.spec, 1.25, 1.26

2010-05-20 Thread Iain Arnell
Author: iarnell Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-POE-Component-IRC/F-13 In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv26184 Modified Files: perl-POE-Component-IRC.spec Added Files: 0001-apply-fixes-for-rhbz-591215.patch Log Message: * Thu May 20 2010 Iain Arnell

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/20/2010 11:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: I believe this kind of situation is why marketing has the 'talking points' concept. ... which is derived from the feature list. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

rpms/perl-POE-Component-IRC/F-12 0001-apply-fixes-for-rhbz-591215.patch, NONE, 1.1 perl-POE-Component-IRC.spec, 1.24, 1.25

2010-05-20 Thread Iain Arnell
Author: iarnell Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-POE-Component-IRC/F-12 In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv26672 Modified Files: perl-POE-Component-IRC.spec Added Files: 0001-apply-fixes-for-rhbz-591215.patch Log Message: * Thu May 20 2010 Iain Arnell

[Bug 591216] perl-POE-Component-IRC: arbitrary IRC command execution due to insufficient stripping of CR/LF [fedora-all]

2010-05-20 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591216 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 591215] perl-POE-Component-IRC: arbitrary IRC command execution due to insufficient stripping of CR/LF

2010-05-20 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591215 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 594464] New: perl-POE-Component-IRC: arbitrary IRC command execution due to insufficient stripping of CR/LF [fedora 11]

2010-05-20 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-POE-Component-IRC: arbitrary IRC command execution due to insufficient stripping of CR/LF [fedora 11] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=594464

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 23:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/20/2010 11:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: I believe this kind of situation is why marketing has the 'talking points' concept. ... which is derived from the feature list. Yup. Derived from. The point is that it's *not* the same,

[Bug 591216] perl-POE-Component-IRC: arbitrary IRC command execution due to insufficient stripping of CR/LF [fedora-all]

2010-05-20 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591216 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 23:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/20/2010 11:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: I believe this kind of situation is why marketing has the 'talking points' concept. ... which is derived from the feature

Re: web-m and Fedora 14

2010-05-20 Thread Gregory Maxwell
2010/5/20 Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) ngomp...@gmail.com: It's too bad that we can't say that Fedora 13 has all these cool things. Fedora would get some considerable notoriety for being the first to fully support it. Then again, we cannot fully support it for HTML5 since Firefox doesn't have it...

Re: Packages depending on Yelp

2010-05-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Not all of the packages that use Yelp actually depend on it and the current package list seems completely arbitrary. The reason dependencies on yelp are considered harmful is that they were dragging yelp, and with it the entire xulrunner stack, onto non-GNOME spins

Re: Packages depending on Yelp

2010-05-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/21/2010 03:34 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: People are asking you to drop the dependency for a reason. Please do it. Let's fight dependency bloat! Blindly dropping dependencies and breaking the help menu items is not a way to fight so called dependency bloat. Anyway as you are already

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matěj Cepl wrote: Which don't have principal headquarters of their sponsor in US (but on the Isle of Man, which was chosen exactly because of its lax legal and especially tax, true, regime). Instead of comparing with Ubuntu, how is our configuration more complicated than OpenSuSE, which is in

Re: rpms/redir/EL-6 import.log,1.2,1.3 redir.spec,1.3,1.4

2010-05-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Toshio Kuratomi wrote: This is also wrong because we want 0%{?rhel} = 5. To avoid having to specify negation I'd also reverse the condition: %if 0%{?rhel} = 5 || 0%{?fedora} BuildRequires: tcp_wrappers-devel %else BuildRequires: tcp_wrappers %endif I'd spell the condition as: %if

Re: Fedora 13 continuing the tradition of being an update monster

2010-05-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: To answer the question someone posed earlier in the thread, when I was doing a lot of testing of various F13 RC2 installs yesterday, none of them - not the default desktop install from DVD, the desktop spin, the KDE spin or the Xfce spin - had more than 12 updates

Re: Quake3 security issue and non-responsive maintainer: Xavier Lamien

2010-05-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Till Maas wrote: A current problem I see with using upstream release monitoring is that there is no easy way to query which bugs are ignored, because it is perfectly valid to not touch the bug as a maintainer but only update the package. This will avoid a new bug to be filed, but the

Re: Blockers via flags?

2010-05-20 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 01:34 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: A solution, flags! Well, we should carefully consider the disadvantages of that change. For example, one thing we will lose with a flag-based solution is the transitiveness of blocking a tracker bug. So we'd lose

Re: Fedora 13 Release Candidate Phase

2010-05-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rakesh Pandit wrote: No change in normal process. Just 2-3 days extra between this particular case in which a nack (-ve karma) is received between maintainer requesting a push for stable and rel-eng submitting it. It will prevent `race condition` where say maintainer wants to pull it back but

Re: Fedora 13 Release Candidate Phase

2010-05-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Schwendt wrote: The longer it takes to push packages into a repo, the longer the window that creates the race condition. It could be that the push has completed 98% of the stuff that needs to be done, and a tester would vote -1 late because of a show-stopper bug in one package. If

Re: Packages depending on Yelp

2010-05-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bastien Nocera wrote: Just stick by it. The next version of yelp will use webkit. But webkitgtk is still an extraneous dependency of significant size on the KDE spin. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: base kernel to build fedora

2010-05-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Toshio Kuratomi wrote: skvidal and I are working on a builder for third party add on repositories for Fedora. That builder would be separate from koji and would, indeed use a vm for building. Yet another one? We already have Plague and Koji, what would the new one offer over those? Would it

Re: Inclusion user rpm macros file in spec

2010-05-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: I think because macroses should be included before it processed as shell script. Is there some variant of %include or similar? AFAIK, no. E.g. in kde-filesystem, we end up defining things twice, once for the specfile itself and once for the .macros

Re: packages using gsettings

2010-05-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 11:10 +0200, Ralf Ertzinger wrote: I sure hope this is solved somewhat intelligently and does not compile each and every schema on every installed package. Whatever it is that gconf is doing on updates/installs now is bad enough. Yes, it does

Re: Packages depending on Yelp

2010-05-20 Thread Chen Lei
2010/5/21 Patrice Dumas pertu...@free.fr On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:56:07PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Any other recommendations? Otherwise I am dropping yelp dependencies in rawhide. I added a dependency on yelp in gnochm because I thought that having a click on the help button

Re: packages using gsettings

2010-05-20 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 03:29 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 11:10 +0200, Ralf Ertzinger wrote: I sure hope this is solved somewhat intelligently and does not compile each and every schema on every installed package. Whatever it is that gconf is

Re: packages using gsettings

2010-05-20 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Kevin Kofler píše v Pá 21. 05. 2010 v 03:29 +0200: Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 11:10 +0200, Ralf Ertzinger wrote: Why can the package not come with it's schema precompiled? Because they all go into a single binary file. Yuck! Hello, registry! :-/ What's next?

Re: rawhide report: 20100517 changes

2010-05-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rawhide Report wrote: mumble-1.2.2-8.fc14 --- * Sun May 16 2010 Andreas Osowski th0...@mkdir.name - 1.2.2-8 - Rebuild for protobuf ABI change - Added redhat-lsb to the Requires for murmur As already noted by Rahul Sundaram when this change was made in CVS, redhat- lsb is NOT

[Bug 591216] perl-POE-Component-IRC: arbitrary IRC command execution due to insufficient stripping of CR/LF [fedora-all]

2010-05-20 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591216 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2010-05-20 14:38:02 EDT ---