Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 03:14:57PM +, Pierre Carrier wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 13:51, Camilo Mesias cam...@mesias.co.uk wrote: With virtualization I have more Linux machines than ever (about 50 in active use at last count).  All on my local 1GB network.  Consequently I use X to them

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 04:52:02PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le samedi 06 novembre 2010 à 14:21 +, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : Why throw away everything just so we can make input better? Because those are just the examples I know where X11 has been blocking progress for *years*.

Re: libpoppler soname bump in rawhide

2010-11-07 Thread Rex Dieter
Marek Kasik wrote: I plan to rebase poppler in rawhide to poppler-0.15.1. There are some API changes and 1 soname bump of libpoppler.so.8 to libpoppler.so.9. API changes mostly involve addition of new functions (see below). OK, all rebuilds have been done or are still building. 2 notable

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 05:28:08PM +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: First I think you should probably head over to the Wayland mailing list and get involved there. That's something I also recommend to Richard because if you want certain features to be present now is a good time to make

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 11/6/2010 11:28, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: As for the if all apps are ported to Wayland I will not be able to use them remotely anymore I think this is bogus. Nowadays virtually all application aren't X application but gtk/qt applications and the toolkits tend to support different

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 02:43, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 01:36:43AM +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: On 11/06/2010 12:21 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 03:16:11PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Richard W.M. Jones

fedora 14: pulseaudio eating cpu and memory without reason...

2010-11-07 Thread Marius Andreiana
Hi, Even when not playing any audio, pulseaudio uses CPU and memory PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 2257 marius20 0 941m 7524 3188 S 2.9 0.4 14:22.57 chrome 2956 marius20 0 2026m 537m 9612 S 2.9 26.8 27:40.42 java 1500 marius20 0

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 10:57:27AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: We want to ditch extremely useful, ground-breaking features because of tearing when scrolling in a browser window? [I do *not* see any of I actually read it as we want to ditch features that were groundbreaking in 1975 since

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 15:48 +, Ben Boeckel wrote: Camilo Mesias cam...@mesias.co.uk wrote: [..] As much as I love Nouveau's freeness, last time I checked I couldn't even run gnome shell on it. I was doing that back in November[1]. It depends on your hardware. Works on some cards,

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 16:00 +, Camilo Mesias wrote: You mention gnome shell but not nouveau, how do you enable the missing 3d support for Nouveau? And does it only work for a subset of hardware? I'd be interested to try it. Lately I just get: Accelerated 3D graphics is not available

Should gpg use alternatives?

2010-11-07 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Should gpg 1.x be installed as /usr/bin/gpg1, gpg 2.x be installed as /usr/bin/gpg2 (as is already the case), and /usr/bin/gpg replaced with a symlink managed by alternatives? pgpiqSHAQTCkm.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Camilo Mesias
Hi, how do you enable the missing 3d support for Nouveau? It came with mesa-dri-drivers-experimental. I just wanted to say thanks, I am running with this now, it seems to be certainly more than adequate ;-) to run gnome shell. No more akmod-nvidia for a while! -Cam -- devel mailing list

Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-07 Thread Vaclav Mocek
Hi all, I have read some articles about the Cold Boot Attacks and I am wondering whether my Fedora box is protected against such kinds of attack, at least to some extent. I work like an Embedded SW/HW Developer and my experience is that data could remain in the dynamic memory for quite long

Multilib issue with hard-coded paths in mash script

2010-11-07 Thread Christian Krause
Hi, During the F14 release cycle gtk2 was updated from 2.20.x to 2.22.x. During this change gdk-pixbuf2 was split off into a separate package and the location of the gdk-pixbuf loaders has changed from: F13: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/ to F14: /usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders This

proventester needed: libgsf-1.14.18-1.fc13

2010-11-07 Thread Julian Sikorski
Dear proventesters, please add karma to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libgsf-1.14.18-1.fc13 This should be relatively harmless, as there was only one fix in the upstream code since 1.14.17: fix of writing compressed files. Julian -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

rawhide report: 20101107 changes

2010-11-07 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sun Nov 7 08:15:34 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- abrt-gui-1.1.13-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libnotify.so.1()(64bit) alex-2.3.3-1.fc14.x86_64 requires libHSffi-ghc6.12.3.so()(64bit)

nouveau gnome-shell (was: Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland)

2010-11-07 Thread Alex Hudson
On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 16:00 +, Camilo Mesias wrote: You mention gnome shell but not nouveau, how do you enable the missing 3d support for Nouveau? There's an Mesa package labelled experimental you need to install. I don't know what the subset of hardware it works for is, but my Quadro NVS

Unresponsive maintainer ixs alias Andreas Thienemann (fast track?)

2010-11-07 Thread Till Maas
Hi everyone, I just noticed that Andreas Thienemann seems to be unresponsive: There are 48 open bugs assigned to him including 3 security bugs:

proventester needed: libgsf-1.14.18-1.fc13

2010-11-07 Thread Julian Sikorski
Dear proventesters, please add karma to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libgsf-1.14.18-1.fc13 This should be relatively harmless, as there was only one fix in the upstream code since 1.14.17: fix of writing compressed files. Julian -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 04:52:02PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le samedi 06 novembre 2010 à 14:21 +, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : Why throw away everything just so we can make input better? Because those are

Re: fedora 14: pulseaudio eating cpu and memory without reason...

2010-11-07 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Marius Andreiana wrote: Hi, Even when not playing any audio, pulseaudio uses CPU and memory   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND  2257 marius    20   0  941m 7524 3188 S  2.9  0.4  14:22.57 chrome  2956 marius    20   0 2026m

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-07 Thread Digimer
On 10-11-06 07:36 PM, Vaclav Mocek wrote: Hi all, I have read some articles about the Cold Boot Attacks and I am wondering whether my Fedora box is protected against such kinds of attack, at least to some extent. I work like an Embedded SW/HW Developer and my experience is that data

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 11/06/2010 07:39 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 05:28:08PM +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: First I think you should probably head over to the Wayland mailing list and get involved there. That's something I also recommend to Richard because if you want certain

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-07 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 00:36:58 +0100, Vaclav Mocek wrote: I have read some articles about the Cold Boot Attacks and I am wondering whether my Fedora box is protected against such kinds of attack, at least to some extent. If you have physical access to the box there is no security left.

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 18:44:48 +0100, Jan Kratochvil jan.kratoch...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 00:36:58 +0100, Vaclav Mocek wrote: I have read some articles about the Cold Boot Attacks and I am wondering whether my Fedora box is protected against such kinds of attack, at

Re: RemoveSETUID feature (Was: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-10-26) NEW TIME!)

2010-11-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 01.11.10 20:28, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote: On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 07:19:15PM +, Paul Howarth wrote: Any suggestions? We've encountered some funny things about tmpfs before: It doesn't support O_DIRECT at all, for example, necessitating workarounds in

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 17:36, Vaclav Mocek little@email.cz wrote: Hi all, I have read some articles about the Cold Boot Attacks and I am wondering  whether my Fedora box is protected against such kinds of attack, at least to some extent. Ok there are several different cold boot attacks.

Re: Should gpg use alternatives?

2010-11-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 05:20:02PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Should gpg 1.x be installed as /usr/bin/gpg1, gpg 2.x be installed as /usr/bin/gpg2 (as is already the case), and /usr/bin/gpg replaced with a symlink managed by alternatives? If you check the list archives, this has come up

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le samedi 06 novembre 2010 à 16:41 +, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 04:52:02PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le samedi 06 novembre 2010 à 14:21 +, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : Why throw away everything just so we can make input better? Because those

Changes in FAmSCo and why it matters, or how to get stuff.

2010-11-07 Thread David Nalley
As you may know, FAmSCo among other things, is responsible for handling a portion of Fedora's discretionary budget.[0],[1]. We typically run under-budget, sometimes by a relatively large amount. FAmSCo recognizes that leaving money on the table every quarter is effectively a lost opportunity.

Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-07 Thread Felix Miata
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623742 was duped to newer bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624297 The older: 1-began life with equivalent summary: system-config-display fails 2-contains same comment 0 information as the latter 3-was directed to be filed by triagers

Re: Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-07 Thread Digimer
On 10-11-07 07:00 PM, Felix Miata wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623742 was duped to newer bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624297 The older: 1-began life with equivalent summary: system-config-display fails 2-contains same comment 0 information as

Re: rawhide report: 20101107 changes

2010-11-07 Thread Jens Petersen
alex-2.3.3-1.fc14.x86_64 requires libHSffi-ghc6.12.3.so()(64bit) : ghc-Boolean-0.0.1-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libHSffi-ghc6.12.3.so()(64bit) : : ghc-zlib-0.5.2.0-4.fc14.x86_64 requires libHSffi-ghc6.12.3.so()(64bit) : xmobar-0.11.1-4.fc15.x86_64 requires

[Bug 596103] perl-Net-Patricia-1.18 is available

2010-11-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=596103 --- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2010-11-06 19:42:11 EDT --- perl-Net-Patricia-1.18-1.fc14

File Net-Patricia-1.18_01.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by philipp

2010-11-07 Thread Philip Prindeville
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Net-Patricia: 322326acedb249df29c4f3605dbb77f2 Net-Patricia-1.18_01.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Net-Patricia] Updating to maintenance release: bug in AFINET6 version of add() method.

2010-11-07 Thread Philip Prindeville
commit 7db7141d6e0b1cf5b43cf17fbe27dece9f74068b Author: Philip Prindeville phil...@fedoraproject.org Date: Sun Nov 7 23:30:20 2010 -0700 Updating to maintenance release: bug in AFINET6 version of add() method. .gitignore |1 + perl-Net-Patricia.spec |8 ++--

[perl-Net-Patricia/f14/master: 2/2] Merge branch 'master' into f14

2010-11-07 Thread Philip Prindeville
commit 618acad14f35c97e727a0d4285180c085dbf2f48 Merge: 61510be 7db7141 Author: Philip Prindeville phil...@fedoraproject.org Date: Sun Nov 7 23:33:06 2010 -0700 Merge branch 'master' into f14 .gitignore |1 + perl-Net-Patricia.spec |8 ++-- sources|

[perl-Net-Patricia/f13/master] Updating to maintenance release: bug in AFINET6 version of add() method.

2010-11-07 Thread Philip Prindeville
Summary of changes: 7db7141... Updating to maintenance release: bug in AFINET6 version of (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list