Re: Bugs in debuginfo packages

2011-02-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Karel Klic wrote: > component: kdissert (rdieter) > file: kdissert-1.0.7-8.fc15.i686/usr/lib/kde3/libkdissapplet.so > - debuginfo missing; ELF is not stripped > file: kdissert-1.0.7-8.fc15.i686/usr/lib/kde3/libkdisshtmldoc.so > - debuginfo missing; ELF is not stripped > file: kdissert-1.0.7-8.fc15.

Re: Increased Anaconda memory requirements?

2011-02-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 10:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > http://anonbadger.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/need-more-memory/ > > Why does Anaconda need more memory? Such changes really need to be > coordinated and documented better. We need changes in several > documentation including install

Increased Anaconda memory requirements?

2011-02-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi http://anonbadger.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/need-more-memory/ Why does Anaconda need more memory? Such changes really need to be coordinated and documented better. We need changes in several documentation including installation guide and release notes not to mention changes in the default RAM

[Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha RC2 Available Now!

2011-02-25 Thread Andre Robatino
Fedora 15 Alpha RC2 is now available [1]. Please refer to the following pages for download links and testing instructions. Installation: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test Desktop: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test Ideally, all

[Test-Announce] Announcing 389 Directory Server version 1.2.8 Alpha 3

2011-02-25 Thread Rich Megginson
The 389 Project team is pleased to announce the release of 389-ds-base-1.2.8 Alpha 3. This release has fixes for bugs found in 1.2.8 alpha testing and bugs from earlier releases. Installation yum install --enablerepo=updates-testing 389-ds # or for EPEL yum install --enablerepo=epel-test

F-15 Branched report: 20110225 changes

2011-02-25 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Feb 25 13:16:07 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- Io-language-extras-20080330-4.fc15.x86_64 requires libevent-1.4.so.2()(64bit) balsa-2.4.9-3.fc15.x86_64 requires libgtkhtml-3.15.so.19()(64bit)

Re: Bugs in debuginfo packages

2011-02-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ben Boeckel wrote: > Anything with ghc-* can be ignored; ghc does not have debuginfo in its > libraries. A list of other Haskell packages which don't fit the ghc-* > pattern can be gathered as well. Actually, GHC has something somewhat equivalent to debuginfo, but it's in a completely different fo

Re: Minimal install option (was Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback)

2011-02-25 Thread Jesse Keating
On 2/25/11 12:51 PM, Chris Lumens wrote: >>> This was the same realization that >>> led to the removal of the labeled "minimal" install, too many people >>> just wanted to argue over the meaning of the term "minimal". >> >> ? There's still a 'minimal' radio button in the installer at the package >>

Re: Minimal install option (was Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback)

2011-02-25 Thread Chris Lumens
> > This was the same realization that > > led to the removal of the labeled "minimal" install, too many people > > just wanted to argue over the meaning of the term "minimal". > > ? There's still a 'minimal' radio button in the installer at the package > set selection stage. I know, I just cli

Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback

2011-02-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 06:22:25PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 09:46:08AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 06:32:44PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > There are no essential services, which means any proposal that contains > > > the phrase "n

Re: Minimal install option (was Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback)

2011-02-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/2/25 Adam Williamson : > On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 09:53 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: >> This was the same realization that >> led to the removal of the labeled "minimal" install, too many people >> just wanted to argue over the meaning of the term "minimal". > > ? There's still a 'minimal' radio b

Re: Bugs in debuginfo packages

2011-02-25 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 02/24/2011 10:33 AM, Radek Vokál wrote: > Thanks Karel, I vote for opening bugs for all of these. Especially those > which are ELF stripped might even have wrong compiler flags. See also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=DebugInfo These have been caught by debugrepo-check [1] which

Minimal install option (was Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback)

2011-02-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 09:53 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > This was the same realization that > led to the removal of the labeled "minimal" install, too many people > just wanted to argue over the meaning of the term "minimal". ? There's still a 'minimal' radio button in the installer at the pac

rawhide report: 20110225 changes

2011-02-25 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Feb 25 08:15:32 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- R-hdf5-1.6.9-10.fc15.x86_64 requires hdf5 = 0:1.8.5.patch1 audacious-plugin-xmp-3.3.0-6.fc15.x86_64 requires audacious(plugin-api) = 0:17 balsa

Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback

2011-02-25 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 07:30:34PM +0100, Till Maas wrote: > The services that are started when the respective package is installed > and the services that are enabled by default by the Fedora installer do > not need to be the same and are afaik currently not the same. There is > imho a huge diffe

Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback

2011-02-25 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 06:22:25PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Like Jesse said, my objection here is that using the word "essential" > just results in us being doomed to argue over what "essential" means. > A literal interpretation of "essential" means "start init and have it > launch a get

Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback

2011-02-25 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 09:46:08AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 06:32:44PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > There are no essential services, which means any proposal that contains > > the phrase "non-essential services" is already unimplementable. > > > You've said thi

Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback

2011-02-25 Thread Jesse Keating
On 2/25/11 9:46 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > You've said this many times and it seems that you do it to be > obstructionist. The constructive way to deal with this is to start making > a list of what people really mean by "essential" and then propose alternate > words to use. > > I think, by essen

Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback

2011-02-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 06:32:44PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 05:59:33PM +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 03:04:26PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > > > And once you've got a default set for the default install, why not just > > > do it at the p

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 02:25:26PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > snapshotted every time we perform a package/admin operation (and > > perhaps also just on regular intervals for good measure), what would > > we then gain by adding a read-only rootfs to the mix? > Security, robustness: you can

Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback

2011-02-25 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 04:45:35PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > No, but if that's your definition of "essential" then all we need is to > launch init and have it give you a getty. chkconfigging gdm on would > give you a graphical login, and you could probably even get a session. A > bunch of

Re: Bugs in debuginfo packages

2011-02-25 Thread Ben Boeckel
Haïkel Guémar wrote: > Not sure, at least, it is used in kernel and glibc spec. Also mentionned > in the RPM package creation howto featured in Packages Maintainer wiki page. Actually, we don't generate -debuginfo packages[1], so I'd say the script is looking for the debuginfo for the libs, not f

Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback

2011-02-25 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 05:18:34PM +0100, Till Maas wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 09:46:06PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > So we should default to init=/bin/sh and take it from there? > > Is it possible to start there and to get to a gdm login by only using > the command "service start"[0]

Re: git repository with Fedora kernel(s) sources

2011-02-25 Thread Thomas Moschny
2011/2/25 Garrett Holmstrom : > While I can see how this might make things a bit easier, it can obscure > what commits are Fedora-specific as they are lost in the sea of the > upstream kernel's commits, making me firmly against the proposal. Using topgit to control the Fedora patches would be an o

Re: git repository with Fedora kernel(s) sources

2011-02-25 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 2/25/2011 7:19, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> I've got an interesting idea - why not to provide a git repository >> with the sources of current Fedora kernel? This could simplify the >> maintenance of patches, allows other to easily backport stuff from >> kernel.org's master and greatly improves t

[perl-Object-InsideOut] update to 3.79

2011-02-25 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 5dd4db1a4ec162da15e88eea08e21bd2cb957d3c Author: Iain Arnell Date: Fri Feb 25 17:20:49 2011 +0100 update to 3.79 filter-provides.sh |3 --- perl-Object-InsideOut.spec | 12 2 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Object-Insi

Re: Access rights for system logs

2011-02-25 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 03:50:57PM +0100, Matej Cepl wrote: > Dne 25.2.2011 10:39, Mogens Kjaer napsal(a): > > create 640 root wheel > > > > to /etc/logrotate.d/syslog and have added bbuser to the wheel group. > > > > That file is owned by rsyslog in Fedora and sysklogd in RHEL. > > I am not sur

[Fedora-r-devel-list] [Fwd: [R] R 2.12.2 is released]

2011-02-25 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
FYI :-) Pierre --- Begin Message --- I've rolled up R-2.12.2.tar.gz a short while ago. This is an update release, which fixes a number of mostly minor issues, and one major issue in which complex arithmetic was being messed up on some compiler platform. You can get it from http://cran.r-projec

Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback

2011-02-25 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 09:46:06PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:25:44PM +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > > For me essential services are the services that are required to start > > other services. If there are no services required to boot Fedora, login > > as root and star

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-25 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 2/25/11 2:54 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > Dne 24.2.2011 20:54, Ric Wheeler napsal(a): >> Can we have pointers to these crashes or BZ reports please? As Josef has >> noted, btrfs has been quite stable in our testing and we are certainly >> going to pursue any reports. > > Will do ... I am hesitant to

Re: git repository with Fedora kernel(s) sources

2011-02-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2011/2/25 Peter Lemenkov : > Hello. > > I've got an interesting idea - why not to provide a git repository > with the sources of current Fedora kernel? This could simplify the > maintenance of patches, allows other to easily backport stuff from > kernel.org's master and greatly improves the cu

git repository with Fedora kernel(s) sources

2011-02-25 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello. I've got an interesting idea - why not to provide a git repository with the sources of current Fedora kernel? This could simplify the maintenance of patches, allows other to easily backport stuff from kernel.org's master and greatly improves the current situation with transparency of develo

Re: Access rights for system logs

2011-02-25 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 25.2.2011 10:39, Mogens Kjaer napsal(a): > create 640 root wheel > > to /etc/logrotate.d/syslog and have added bbuser to the wheel group. > > That file is owned by rsyslog in Fedora and sysklogd in RHEL. I am not sure whether wheel is the correct group ... I don't think we should mix togethe

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-25 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 02/25/2011 08:52 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Ric Wheeler wrote: >> On 02/25/2011 04:06 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Ric Wheelerwrote: On 02/24/2011 08:44 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: > Dne 23.2.2011 20:49, Matthew Garrett

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Ric Wheeler wrote: > On 02/25/2011 04:06 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Ric Wheeler  wrote: >>> >>> On 02/24/2011 08:44 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: Dne 23.2.2011 20:49, Matthew Garrett napsal(a): > > btrfs does the form

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-25 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 02/25/2011 04:06 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Ric Wheeler wrote: >> On 02/24/2011 08:44 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: >>> Dne 23.2.2011 20:49, Matthew Garrett napsal(a): btrfs does the former without anywhere near as much of the latter. >>> BTRFS so far only makes m

nasm-2.09 breaks compatibility

2011-02-25 Thread Petr Pisar
Hello, I'v just been bitten by nasm-2.09 (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678818) that changed a derivation of __OUTPUT__FORMAT__ macro derivation from `-f FORMAT' option (http://www.nasm.us/doc/nasmdocc.html). If your package uses nasm and conditionalizes some assembly code by %

Re: Access rights for system logs

2011-02-25 Thread Mogens Kjaer
On 02/25/2011 09:13 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: > yum provides "*/messages" did not list it. Is it really unowned? In order to give Big Brother read access to /var/log/messages I have added: create 640 root wheel to /etc/logrotate.d/syslog and have added bbuser to the wheel group. That file is ow

Re: Access rights for system logs

2011-02-25 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 25.2.2011 09:13, Matthias Runge napsal(a): > What do you think? Did I miss something? Has anybody of you another hint? No detailed analysis, but just brief +1 (unless some terrible issue is discovered in further discussion) ... I really liked this on Debian. Matěj -- devel mailing list deve

[perl-Bio-Graphics] filter requires, update & run test

2011-02-25 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
commit d153154a87a32b7dea8fd3b2243b312e9559534e Author: Marcela Mašláňová Date: Fri Feb 25 10:10:24 2011 +0100 filter requires, update & run test .gitignore |1 + perl-Bio-Graphics.spec | 18 +- sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 15 insert

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Ric Wheeler wrote: > On 02/24/2011 08:44 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: >> Dne 23.2.2011 20:49, Matthew Garrett napsal(a): >>> btrfs does the former without anywhere near as much of the latter. >> BTRFS so far only makes my kernel panicking as it did anytime I have >> been

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-25 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 24.2.2011 20:54, Ric Wheeler napsal(a): > Can we have pointers to these crashes or BZ reports please? As Josef has > noted, btrfs has been quite stable in our testing and we are certainly > going to pursue any reports. Will do ... I am hesitant to do so, because so many of my previous bug repo

Re: Bugs in debuginfo packages

2011-02-25 Thread Akira TAGOH
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:28:10 +0100, > "KK" == Karel Klic wrote: KK> component: Canna (tagoh) KK> file: Canna-3.7p3-31.fc15.i686/usr/bin/cannaping KK>- debuginfo missing; ELF stripped KK> file: Canna-3.7p3-31.fc15.i686/usr/sbin/cannaserver KK>- debuginfo missing; ELF stripped

Access rights for system logs

2011-02-25 Thread Matthias Runge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, currently, I'm the maintainer of logcheck. It parses system logs and sends mails defined by regular expressions. It's a package mostly adopted for debian. The README says, it is recommended to create an own user and put it into adm group. This le