F-15 Branched report: 20110424 changes

2011-04-24 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Sun Apr 24 13:16:25 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- collectd-mysql-4.10.2-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libmysqlclient.so.16()(64bit) collectd-mysql-4.10.2-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libmysqlclient.so.16(libmysqlc

Re: wireless-tools/net-tools are DEPRECATED

2011-04-24 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 07:10:48PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Ben Boeckel wrote: > > One thing I liked a lot with my ifconfig scripts/wpa_supplicant pairing > > is that when wireless is spotty, the network doesn't keep going up and > > down. Instead, applications see lots of dropped packets. When

Re: Possible to submit an update without obsoleting?

2011-04-24 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 03:57:00PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Michael Schwendt wrote: > > It sounds as if bodhi would need to stop obsoleting an update that > > is "pending -> stable", so you could submit the next test-update a little > > bit earlier.Current behaviour (I think) is that bodhi

Re: PackageKit in Fedora 15 (beta)

2011-04-24 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi Rahul, > It isn't a feature that is driven by Fedora and hence it won't be in the > feature list. It is just what happens when more upstream software take > advantage of it over time.. Yes, NOW it's clear! Thanks Rahul! -Ilyes On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 04

Re: PackageKit in Fedora 15 (beta)

2011-04-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/25/2011 12:36 AM, Ilyes Gouta wrote: > Rahul, > > > If you aren't actively using the GNOME or KDE frontend, just remove > those and leave the > > framework as it is. > > That was tough :) > > AFAIK (and I might be wrong) deep PacakgeKit integration wasn't > clearly mentioned in Fedora 15's fe

Re: PackageKit in Fedora 15 (beta)

2011-04-24 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Rahul, > If you aren't actively using the GNOME or KDE frontend, just remove those and leave the > framework as it is. That was tough :) AFAIK (and I might be wrong) deep PacakgeKit integration wasn't clearly mentioned in Fedora 15's feature set list. I was just asking if it was possible to rec

Re: PackageKit in Fedora 15 (beta)

2011-04-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/24/2011 11:54 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote: > Hi, > > I filed a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699263 > > -Ilyes PackageKit isn't just a yum frontend and is likely to be integrated more and more with key components as we go forward. If you aren't actively using the GNOME or KDE

Re: wireless-tools/net-tools are DEPRECATED

2011-04-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/24/2011 10:43 PM, Ben Boeckel wrote: > Kevin Kofler wrote: >> I've found NM to actually be quite tolerant of spotty wireless connections. >> In fact, usually, it's me who triggers a reconnect (or if possible, a >> connect to a different access point, e.g. when I'm at the university in a >

Re: PackageKit in Fedora 15 (beta)

2011-04-24 Thread Richard Hughes
On 24 April 2011 19:24, Ilyes Gouta wrote: > I filed a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699263 I've commented on this, and closed it NOTABUG. Sorry. Richard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: PackageKit in Fedora 15 (beta)

2011-04-24 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi, I filed a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699263 -Ilyes On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 24.04.2011 20:04, schrieb Ilyes Gouta: > > Hi, > > > > Removing PackageKit In Fedora 14 was easy and pa

Re: PackageKit in Fedora 15 (beta)

2011-04-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.04.2011 20:04, schrieb Ilyes Gouta: > Hi, > > Removing PackageKit In Fedora 14 was easy and painless since it causes up to > 5 packages, all *really* related to > PackageKit in the form of a yum-plugin and few other things. > > On Fedora 15, trying to "yum remove PackageKit" causes the s

PackageKit in Fedora 15 (beta)

2011-04-24 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi, Removing PackageKit In Fedora 14 was easy and painless since it causes up to 5 packages, all *really* related to PackageKit in the form of a yum-plugin and few other things. On Fedora 15, trying to "yum remove PackageKit" causes the system to attempt removing up to 74 MB worth of software, in

Re: wireless-tools/net-tools are DEPRECATED

2011-04-24 Thread Ben Boeckel
Kevin Kofler wrote: > I've found NM to actually be quite tolerant of spotty wireless connections. > In fact, usually, it's me who triggers a reconnect (or if possible, a > connect to a different access point, e.g. when I'm at the university in a > shared building with the business university (W

Re: wireless-tools/net-tools are DEPRECATED

2011-04-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ben Boeckel wrote: > One thing I liked a lot with my ifconfig scripts/wpa_supplicant pairing > is that when wireless is spotty, the network doesn't keep going up and > down. Instead, applications see lots of dropped packets. When > reauthentication can take 5 to 10s (or more), assuming that the > c

Re: FC15 beta testing result by my 76-year old uncle

2011-04-24 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Marius Andreiana wrote: > Hi Andy >> >>> Cheese/skype, but not image >> >> * logitech quickcam express doesn't work -- light goes on in >> I don't know about it specifically, but when I use my USB microscope I use >> Camorama.  Notice though it has no UI to select

Re: wireless-tools/net-tools are DEPRECATED

2011-04-24 Thread Ben Boeckel
Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said: >> Newsflash: the network service is DEPRECATED!!! That's what NetworkManager >> is for. > > Newsflash: NM doesn't replace the network service yet. Maybe when NM > can do everything ifup/ifdown can do, the discussion about deprecation >

Re: Driving ARM secondary rebuild with script - builddep tree?

2011-04-24 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 04/24/2011 08:56 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > While smarter people than me fix the boostrapping of F14 on ARM, I am > looking at whether we can automate driving koji in an optimal order. > > I am looking at mass-rebuild.py from the releng scripts repo; and at > yum-builddep. > > - mass-rebuild

Re: FC15 beta testing result by my 76-year old uncle

2011-04-24 Thread Marius Andreiana
Hi Andy > > Cheese/skype, but not image >> > > * logitech quickcam express doesn't work -- light goes on in > I don't know about it specifically, but when I use my USB microscope I use > Camorama. Notice though it has no UI to select device, you have to give a > switch --device=/dev/video1 on com

Driving ARM secondary rebuild with script - builddep tree?

2011-04-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
While smarter people than me fix the boostrapping of F14 on ARM, I am looking at whether we can automate driving koji in an optimal order. I am looking at mass-rebuild.py from the releng scripts repo; and at yum-builddep. - mass-rebuild gets a git checkout, bumps the rev, commits, pushes, we don

Re: Possible to submit an update without obsoleting?

2011-04-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Schwendt wrote: > It sounds as if bodhi would need to stop obsoleting an update that > is "pending -> stable", so you could submit the next test-update a little > bit earlier.Current behaviour (I think) is that bodhi obsoletes > updates until one is "pushed to stable". Bodhi actually d

Re: Possible to submit an update without obsoleting?

2011-04-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 11:37:41 +0100, RWMJ wrote: > > In general I like the auto-obsoleting feature in Bodhi, but is there a > way to disable it for a particular update? > > The reason is that I've got libguestfs-1.10.1-1.fc15 waiting to go > into stable. I've also just built libguestfs-1.10.2-1.

Re: Possible to submit an update without obsoleting?

2011-04-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On 24/04/11 11:37, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > In general I like the auto-obsoleting feature in Bodhi, but is there a > way to disable it for a particular update? > Not an answer to the problem? But what about a fedorapeople repo? Ask testers to enable it. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Enco

Possible to submit an update without obsoleting?

2011-04-24 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
In general I like the auto-obsoleting feature in Bodhi, but is there a way to disable it for a particular update? The reason is that I've got libguestfs-1.10.1-1.fc15 waiting to go into stable. I've also just built libguestfs-1.10.2-1.fc15 which is a further update along the upstream stable bran

rawhide report: 20110424 changes

2011-04-24 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sun Apr 24 08:15:02 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- beldi-0.9.25-3.fc15.x86_64 requires libhal-storage.so.1()(64bit) beldi-0.9.25-3.fc15.x86_64 requires libhal.so.1()(64bit) beldi-0.9.25-3.fc15.x8

Re: FC15 beta testing result by my 76-year old uncle

2011-04-24 Thread Andy Green
On 04/23/2011 08:46 PM, Somebody in the thread at some point said: Hi - > I've setup FC15 beta for my 76-year old uncle. The major issues > encountered: > * wake up from suspend didn't work on his laptop; on another one does I thought my suspend was broken on this laptop. But it turned out it