Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Sam Varshavchik wrote: Well, to me it makes much more sense to simply eliminate the uncertainty from the process. If I take the tarball that I'm going to build today, if I have to rebuild it next year, of a few years from -- the tarball will remain the same. It's not going to change.

Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-07-04 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
On 09:34:10 AM Saturday, July 02, 2011 Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011. It would be nice to see Lucene Core in F16. There is an old Lucene 2.9.x for F16 - the latest

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tom Lane wrote: I grow weary of debating this with somebody who can't recognize that his particular situation is not universal. Many people build code for themselves, for instance because their preferred platform isn't shipping the particular version of a package they want (or not shipping it

Kdevelop kdelibs false conflict

2011-07-04 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Hi, yum is complaining about this dependency (on F14) 6:kdelibs-4.6.2-1.fc14.i686 has installed conflicts kdevelop ('9', '4.1.80', None): 9:kdevelop-3.5.5-1.fc12.i686 which is not correct, as kdevelop 3.5.5 is perfectly compatible with any kdelibs (because it actually uses kdelibs3 instead).

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 13:31 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com writes: To add to that: I never recall a single instance where I couldn't fix any breakage in someone else's canned configure/makefile scripts without having to rerun autoconf and automake.

Re: Update ImageMagick

2011-07-04 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 10:39 +0400, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: Today or in next few days I'll plan update ImageMagick in rawhide to version 6.7.0-8. And we're still waiting... ;-) Nils -- Nils Philippsen Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: FWIW, I used to run autoconf during the builds of both the postgresql and mysql packages for many years. That eventually became unnecessary in both cases, but I don't recall that autoconf changes ever caused me any trouble. (gcc, on

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/04/2011 12:39 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: FWIW, I used to run autoconf during the builds of both the postgresql and mysql packages for many years. That eventually became unnecessary in both cases, but I don't recall that

Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-07-04 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2011/7/4 Alexander Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com: On 09:34:10 AM Saturday, July 02, 2011 Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011. It would be nice to see Lucene Core in F16.

R: Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread pinto.e...@gmail.com
Sorry for not quoting. Btw, i in rhel5 have packaged the latest autoconf, automake and libtool in such a way that if installed the packager can use it without upgrading the rhel5 package and without conflict of any sort : not so hard to do with rpm. Dunno if my approch was the best, or if it is

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Kevin Kofler writes: Sam Varshavchik wrote: Well, to me it makes much more sense to simply eliminate the uncertainty from the process. If I take the tarball that I'm going to build today, if I have to rebuild it next year, of a few years from -- the tarball will remain the same. It's not

Re: Update ImageMagick

2011-07-04 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
Sorry, but it is postponed [1] probably due to the bug in gcc [2] [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=715834 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=715336 On 07/04/2011 02:10 PM, Nils Philippsen wrote: On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 10:39 +0400, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)

Re: Update ImageMagick

2011-07-04 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 03:25:41PM +0400, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: Sorry, but it is postponed [1] probably due to the bug in gcc [2] [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=715834 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=715336 The latter is assigned to

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Ralf Corsepius writes: On 07/04/2011 01:18 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Both gcc and binutils are extensively regression-tested. Stuff that was compiled years ago, still works. To some extend, yes, Nevertheless we all are permanently fixing gcc/binutils-compatibilities, aren't we? Right.

rawhide report: 20110704 changes

2011-07-04 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Jul 4 08:15:47 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- acheck-0.5.1-4.fc15.noarch requires perl(Text::Aspell) audacious-plugin-xmp-3.3.0-7.fc16.x86_64 requires audacious(plugin-api) = 0:19

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Nils Philippsen wrote: I'd really love to be able to re-run current auto-tools on old Makefile.am/configure.{in,ac} files and the results to work in all cases, but right now that seems utopian to me. Yet the competition ( http://www.cmake.org/ ) manages that very thing just fine… The whole

Re: R: Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I suspect Kevin's concern is that someone stuffs some hidden shell code into ./configure which isn't in configure.ac. (Of the send all your private ssh keys to remote host variety). This concern has some legitimacy. But OTOH someone could stuff the same code into

Re: Kdevelop kdelibs false conflict

2011-07-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Roberto Ragusa wrote: yum is complaining about this dependency (on F14) 6:kdelibs-4.6.2-1.fc14.i686 has installed conflicts kdevelop ('9', '4.1.80', None): 9:kdevelop-3.5.5-1.fc12.i686 which is not correct, as kdevelop 3.5.5 is perfectly compatible with any kdelibs (because it actually

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/04/2011 02:04 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Ralf Corsepius writes: On 07/04/2011 01:18 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Both gcc and binutils are extensively regression-tested. Stuff that was compiled years ago, still works. To some extend, yes, Nevertheless we all are permanently fixing

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Ralf Corsepius writes: I've got C++ code that's more than ten years old. Still builds just fine, without any diagnostics. Then you're lucky - May-be your C++ code is recent enough? No. I have the source tree right here. Large chunks of it are quite old. So far, most pre-ISO-C++ code I

Re: Update ImageMagick

2011-07-04 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
Yes, I seen mistake. Now ImageMagick built against new gcc. On 07/04/2011 03:45 PM, Christophe Fergeau wrote: On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 03:25:41PM +0400, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: Sorry, but it is postponed [1] probably due to the bug in gcc [2] [1]

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 15:07 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Nils Philippsen wrote: I'd really love to be able to re-run current auto-tools on old Makefile.am/configure.{in,ac} files and the results to work in all cases, but right now that seems utopian to me. Yet the competition (

Re: Update ImageMagick

2011-07-04 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 18:10 +0400, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: Now ImageMagick built against new gcc. Great, thanks! Nils -- Nils Philippsen Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty

Re: R: Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 06:25 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 07/04/2011 04:37 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 06:31:18AM +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote: Hi folks, Thanks all for the input. I didn't realize the subject was *this* controversial. I did find the other discussion

Re: Update ImageMagick

2011-07-04 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 16:33 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote: On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 18:10 +0400, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: Now ImageMagick built against new gcc. Great, thanks! Now that I've rebuilt rss-glx against the new ImageMagick version I see that it has the same library

Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-07-04 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
Excerpts from Michał Piotrowski's message of Mon Jul 04 13:11:06 +0200 2011: Hi, 2011/7/4 Alexander Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com: On 09:34:10 AM Saturday, July 02, 2011 Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL 9.1 is in beta2

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/04/2011 03:48 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Ralf Corsepius writes: I've got C++ code that's more than ten years old. Still builds just fine, without any diagnostics. Then you're lucky - May-be your C++ code is recent enough? No. I have the source tree right here. Large chunks of it are

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 12:48 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: To add to that: I never recall a single instance where I couldn't fix any breakage in someone else's canned configure/makefile scripts without having to rerun autoconf and automake. If there was a problem in the configure script,

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Adam Williamson writes: On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 12:48 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: To add to that: I never recall a single instance where I couldn't fix any breakage in someone else's canned configure/makefile scripts without having to rerun autoconf and automake. If there was a problem in

vsftpd in the news

2011-07-04 Thread Misha Shnurapet
There's something to consider about Chris Evans blog post as of July 3 [1]: An incident, what fun! Earlier today, I was alerted that a vsftpd download from the master site (vsftpd-2.3.4.tar.gz) appeared to contain a backdoor. $ gpg ./vsftpd-2.3.4.tar.gz.asc gpg: Signature made Tue 15 Feb

Re: vsftpd in the news

2011-07-04 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, Misha Shnurapet wrote: The backdoor payload is interesting. In response to a :) smiley face in the FTP username, a TCP callback shell is attempted. There is no obfuscation. I have a question: how does that relate to our package building process, and are GPG signatures

Re: vsftpd in the news

2011-07-04 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 07/04/2011 10:53 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: It would be nice if we could upload/commit the .asc or .sig file, and have the rpmbuild script automatically check the tar ball. Hm, yes. It would be nice to see Koji support checking source sigs. OBS already does so. Seeing as Debian has done this

[Bug 718870] New: Missing dependency in perl-SVK package

2011-07-04 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: Missing dependency in perl-SVK package https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=718870 Summary: Missing dependency in perl-SVK package Product: