Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 03:42 +, Bojan Smojver wrote: Adam Jackson ajax at redhat.com writes: As of tomorrow's rawhide [1], gnome-session will no longer treat llvmpipe as an unsupported driver. This means gnome-shell will run even on hardware without a native 3D driver, including virt

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 23:23 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 15:56:49 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: I'd certainly second Robyn's thanks to all the awesome folks on the devel, releng and QA teams who worked so hard to get this thing done and

Re: glusterfs and hekafs release number for f16 and rawhide; systemd switch-over

2011-11-04 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 09:01 -0400, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: Up to now the glusterfs and hekafs versions and releases have been the same for f16 and rawhide, i.e.: glusterfs-3.2.4-1.x86_64.fc16.rpm, glusterfs-3.2.4-1.x86_64.fc17.rpm, hekafs-0.7-16.x86_64.fc16.rpm, and

Mozilla AsiaCamp : Who are coming over?

2011-11-04 Thread Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
Anybody coming over to Mozilla Asia Camp? .. https://wiki.mozilla.org/AsiaCamp2011 I know at least 2 are coming. If theres a number probably I can work out a small FAD/Meetup sometime before/between/after the event. Regards -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail / KageSenshi Inigo Consulting

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Bojan Smojver
Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com writes: That's really a policy decision for the GNOME / Fedora desktop teams, not for ajax. Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know, so I asked. But based on what they've said in the past, I expect that once most hardware that

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 06:23 +, Bojan Smojver wrote: Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com writes: That's really a policy decision for the GNOME / Fedora desktop teams, not for ajax. Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know, so I asked. No more than anyone -

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Bojan Smojver
Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com writes: Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know, so I asked. No more than anyone - there really is no cabal ;) All I know is what the GNOME / desktop team have said in public, but what they've said seems to point in a

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:21:08 + (UTC) JB wrote: http://pastebin.com/QsD9LDxb This log shows no excessive delay during shutdown. systemd was asked to power off here: [ 979.583227] systemd[1]: Got D-Bus request: org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.StartUnit() on /org/freedesktop/systemd1 [

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:39:25 + (UTC) JB wrote: I see these NetworkManager activities that are repeated and seem to be identical (if this is a problem, then systemd or NetworkManager related ?): That looks like some kind of a logging oddity, where the same messages reach the kmsg buffer

Re: New build of fedpkg (fedora-packager) coming to updates-testing / rawhide

2011-11-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 2.11.2011 19:06, Jesse Keating napsal(a): As noted on IRC, but repeated here for the rest of the class, I've been buried in the work necessary to convert the internal Red Hat repos from cvs to git, much like we did in Fedora. This required some changes to fedpkg, particularly moving most

rawhide report: 20111104 changes

2011-11-04 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Nov 4 08:15:08 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 4ti2-1.3.2-7.fc17.1.x86_64 requires libgmp.so.3()(64bit) 1:anerley-0.3.0-5.fc17.i686 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.15

[perl-NetAddr-IP] Update to 4.056

2011-11-04 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 1d66843d905bfe13532d7ce080d8deae5d96ff0b Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Fri Nov 4 13:09:48 2011 + Update to 4.056 - Update to 4.056 - In InetBase.pm v0.04: - Improve inet_aton to overcome broken gethostbyname found in NetBSD and

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-11-04 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 30.10.2011 23:02, schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Mon, 24.10.11 13:05, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote: Here's an attempt to summarize the rationale for merging /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin into /usr/bin with different words collecting the various points raised: a) the split between

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread seth vidal
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:25:54 + (UTC) Bojan Smojver bo...@rexursive.com wrote: Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com writes: Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know, so I asked. No more than anyone - there really is no cabal ;) All I know is what the

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 23:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: But based on what they've said in the past, I expect that once most hardware that previously needed the fallback mode is covered, fallback mode will die. AIUI, fallback mode isn't meant to be a GNOME 2-by-stealth for Shell

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Ilyes Gouta
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 23:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: But based on what they've said in the past, I expect that once most hardware that previously needed the fallback mode is covered, fallback mode will die. AIUI,

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:09:12 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 03:42 +, Bojan Smojver wrote: But based on what they've said in the past, I expect that once most hardware that previously needed the fallback mode is covered, fallback mode will

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Ian Malone
On 4 November 2011 13:21, seth vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:25:54 + (UTC) Bojan Smojver bo...@rexursive.com wrote: Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com writes: Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know, so I asked. No more

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 14:58:47 +0100, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote: One nice outcome is that we could end up with an optimized reference s/w renderer (and kernel/user land stack) for all platforms. Which is cool! :) The other graphics related improvement looking possible for

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread seth vidal
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 14:10:57 + Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 November 2011 13:21, seth vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:25:54 + (UTC) Bojan Smojver bo...@rexursive.com wrote: Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com writes: Yeah, I got

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 14:10 +, Ian Malone wrote: It's frustrating to be stuck on overview mode on a four core machine while gnome-shell is doing /something/ but you don't know what. If it worked fluidly it would be okay. Actually, the responsiveness issue isn't limited just to overview,

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread drago01
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 November 2011 13:21, seth vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:25:54 + (UTC) Bojan Smojver bo...@rexursive.com wrote: Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com writes: Yeah, I got that bit.

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:17:21 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: It'd be great if we can work with the anaconda team closely to try and get involved all along the line in the UI rewrite stuff, and see if that can reduce the pressure around release times - let's put that on

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Kaleb S. KEITHLEY
Tell us again where to find that gnome shell for dummies doc? I tried to give it a fair trial, but I found it so non-intuitive/counter-intuitive that I gave up after an hour and switched to Forced Fallback Mode. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY kkeit...@redhat.com wrote: Tell us again where to find that gnome shell for dummies doc? The cheat sheet? http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet I tried to give it a fair trial, but I found it so non-intuitive/counter-intuitive that I

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-04 Thread JB
JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: Michal Schmidt mschmidt at redhat.com writes: ... Show us the shutdown-log.txt. ... Here you go: http://pastebin.com/EHTiuiR8 JB This is related to selinux: ... [ 17.701301] sandbox[868]: Starting sandbox/etc/rc.d/init.d/sandbox: line

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-04 Thread JB
JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: Michal Schmidt mschmidt at redhat.com writes: ... Show us the shutdown-log.txt. ... Here you go: http://pastebin.com/EHTiuiR8 JB I see these NetworkManager activities that are

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-04 Thread JB
Michal Schmidt mschmidt at redhat.com writes: On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:21:08 + (UTC) JB wrote: http://pastebin.com/QsD9LDxb This log shows no excessive delay during shutdown. ... Are you sure the long delay occured in the test this log is from? Michal I claimed that the 2 min

unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Reindl Harald
it seems there is a bug but i can not figure out in which component if i try to connect with the full-qualified hostname it says name or service not known, without the domain it works because it is in resolv.conf this does not affect ssh, seems to be global the following apache-reverse-proxy too

Nomination period for Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections closes Nov. 5

2011-11-04 Thread Robyn Bergeron
Greetings and salutations, It is time for yet another edition of Robyn's Fedora Public Service Announcements :) I'd like to give you a friendly reminder that the nomination period for the upcoming Fedora elections will be closing promptly TOMORROW, Saturday, November 5, 2011, at 23:59:59

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Andreas Schwab
Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net writes: [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ssh root@centos.vmware.local ssh: Could not resolve hostname centos.vmware.local: Name or service not known .local is reserved for MDNS. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@redhat.com GPG Key fingerprint = D4E8 DBE3 3813 BB5D

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 04.11.11 15:28, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ssh root@centos.vmware.local ssh: Could not resolve hostname centos.vmware.local: Name or service not known [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ nslookup centos.vmware.local Server: 127.0.0.1 Address:

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.11.2011 16:37, schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Fri, 04.11.11 15:28, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ssh root@centos.vmware.local ssh: Could not resolve hostname centos.vmware.local: Name or service not known [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ nslookup

GNOME vs. Fedora logo in gdm window

2011-11-04 Thread Jos Vos
Hi, I just installed F16 RC5 in a VM and I see the GNOME (foot) logo in the gdm login window, i.s.o. the Fedora logo. Is this correct? IIRC the Fedora logo was still there in an earlier beta... -- --Jos Vos j...@xos.nl --X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 --

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Ian Malone
On 4 November 2011 14:36, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: This is essentially giving up. It's frustrating to be stuck on overview mode on a four core machine while gnome-shell is doing /something/ but you don't know what.

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 04.11.11 17:06, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: Note that .local is the mDNS ad-hoc domain as implemented by Avahi, Bonjour/MacOS, and a lot of hardware this domain name was used / selected LONG before avahi was a topic Well, believe me, there's no point in bitching

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 11/04/2011 05:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 04.11.2011 16:37, schrieb Lennart Poettering: nslookup will only work for unicast DNS names, and hence will bypass any mDNS lookups. as you see nslookup does not bypass, it resolves so what component and how to tell leave my configuration in

Anaconda LVM in F16

2011-11-04 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
Just a thank you for allowing me to uncheck 'Use LVM'. Much simpler than custom partitioning but still gets me what I need/wanted to use. -- Nathanael d. Noblet t 403.875.4613 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-04 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/04/2011 02:34 AM, JB wrote: JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: Michal Schmidt mschmidt at redhat.com writes: ... Show us the shutdown-log.txt. ... Here you go: http://pastebin.com/EHTiuiR8 JB This is related to selinux:

Package picolisp

2011-11-04 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi all, I have a question to package maintainers. I'm the upstream developer of PicoLisp, and would like to see it included in the Fedora wishlist. Currently, PicoLisp is available in OpenWRT and the Debian family of distributions. Is anybody interested to maintain it as a package in Fedora? If

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.11.2011 17:29, schrieb Lennart Poettering: Well, believe me, there's no point in bitching here about Avahi. I didn't make the choice that .local was the mDNS domain. Apple did. well, everytime i come in contact with anything from apple i could throw something out of the window beginning

Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Tom Lane
I have been looking into replacing Fedora's obsolete version of libpng (1.2.x release series) with something more modern. The possible choices are the 1.4.x and 1.5.x release series. The 1.5.x series adds some more features that 1.4.x did not have, but it also poses significantly more migration

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 11/04/2011 06:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: well, everytime i come in contact with anything from apple i could throw something out of the window beginning with the systemctl ACTION service instead systemctl SERVICE action while i laughed over years about apples order of this in their

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ian Malone wrote: If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen different bugzilla accounts by now. So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than forwarding the bugs you're too lazy to file directly at the right place. Kevin Kofler --

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
seth vidal wrote: Bojan, Install xfce. You'll be happy w/that. You should also give KDE Plasma Desktop a try. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 06:23:02PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Ian Malone wrote: If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen different bugzilla accounts by now. So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than forwarding the bugs you're too lazy

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Ian Malone wrote: If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen different bugzilla accounts by now. So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than forwarding the bugs

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread drago01
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 06:23:02PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Ian Malone wrote: If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen different bugzilla accounts by now. So what? Maintainers are not

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Bojan Smojver
--- Original message --- From: seth vidal Install xfce. You'll be happy w/that. Thanks for the tip. Or maybe I'll just have to find time to (learn how to) hack the shell, remove overview from it, bring back the taskbar and workspaces to normal view and call it

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:37:33 -0500 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:17:21 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: ...snip... Yeah, agreed. I don't think there's any especial need for the go/no-go to be an entire day ahead of the release

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
...snip... Excellent background and detective work! Kudos! Some quick questions: Whats upstreams schedule like? How long will 1.4 and 1.5 continue to be supported, and when do they plan on a 1.6? Is there possibly a way to switch to 1.4, but warn (buildtime) about this going away soon, etc?

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: Shipping bug-free software is the job of maintainers. It's reasonable to ask a reporter to take an issue upstream if you feel that that'll result in the bug being fixed faster, but there's no reason to mandate that and

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com said: Any opinions on which way to jump? How hard is it to fix source that accesses the fields directly? Do all the fields that were previously exposed have direct accessor functions? If that's the case, it should be straight-forward (although time

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 10:17 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote: On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: Shipping bug-free software is the job of maintainers. It's reasonable to ask a reporter to take an issue upstream if you feel that that'll result in the bug

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
...snip... Just another datapoint, my personal policy here is: a) ask the reporter if they could report it upstream, as they will be able to answer questions and advocate for their bug much better that I can in some cases. b) If they say no, and I agree it's a bug/issue that should be

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 09:37 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:17:21 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: It'd be great if we can work with the anaconda team closely to try and get involved all along the line in the UI rewrite stuff, and see if that

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Tom Lane
Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com writes: Some quick questions: Whats upstreams schedule like? How long will 1.4 and 1.5 continue to be supported, and when do they plan on a 1.6? 1.4 will be supported for a long time, though presumably not as long as 1.5. I don't think there are any active plans

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 11:53 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I am concerned with the process as executed not matching the documentation. I'd just like to see a change codified that either allows moving the Go / No-Go meeting when appropriate or just schedule it closer to the readiness meeting.

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 14:54:28 -0400 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com writes: Some quick questions: Whats upstreams schedule like? How long will 1.4 and 1.5 continue to be supported, and when do they plan on a 1.6? 1.4 will be supported for a long time,

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:55:00 -0700 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 11:53 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I am concerned with the process as executed not matching the documentation. I'd just like to see a change codified that either allows moving the Go /

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Tom Lane
Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net writes: Once upon a time, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com said: Any opinions on which way to jump? How hard is it to fix source that accesses the fields directly? Do all the fields that were previously exposed have direct accessor functions? AFAIK, they all do, and

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Henrik Nordström
fre 2011-11-04 klockan 13:12 -0400 skrev Tom Lane: Packages that rebuilt successfully with 1.5 658 Packages that FTBFS for non-libpng reasons186 Packages that rebuilt with 1.4, but not 1.5 74 Packages that need help even with 1.4 46 With this data my gut feeling is to go for

Re: GNOME vs. Fedora logo in gdm window

2011-11-04 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jos Vos (j...@xos.nl) said: I just installed F16 RC5 in a VM and I see the GNOME (foot) logo in the gdm login window, i.s.o. the Fedora logo. Is this correct? IIRC the Fedora logo was still there in an earlier beta... This is the fallback GDM, correct? Bill -- devel mailing list

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 4 November 2011 13:06, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:55:00 -0700 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 11:53 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I am concerned with the process as executed not matching the documentation. I'd just like to

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Dr Andrew John Hughes
On 13:12 Fri 04 Nov , Tom Lane wrote: I have been looking into replacing Fedora's obsolete version of libpng (1.2.x release series) with something more modern. The possible choices are the 1.4.x and 1.5.x release series. The 1.5.x series adds some more features that 1.4.x did not have,

Re: Another glibc change that nearly got pushed into F16

2011-11-04 Thread Adam Jackson
On 10/26/11 12:32 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Richard W.M. Jonesrjo...@redhat.com wrote: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/682 I've made another attempt to reach out the the glibc maintainer directly again this morning to hopefully answer the questions

Re: GNOME vs. Fedora logo in gdm window

2011-11-04 Thread Jos Vos
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 03:10:10PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: This is the fallback GDM, correct? Yes it is (in a KVM console). I now realize that it looks different from the GDM I saw when I tested an earlier beta on a real PC. -- --Jos Vos j...@xos.nl --X/OS Experts in Open

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Tom Lane
Dr Andrew John Hughes ahug...@redhat.com writes: FYI, Gentoo already went to libpng 1.5 and so have patches floating around for a lot of stuff that breaks. Oh, thanks, that's very useful to know! I think the availability of such patches should substantially reduce the pain involved. Given

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Henrik Nordström
fre 2011-11-04 klockan 11:53 -0600 skrev Kevin Fenzi: If we do this, next cycle we should NOT do any 'two part' go/no-go meetings. The two part meetings were both about critical blockers that were known and actively being worked on at the time of the meeting. This situation will happen no

[Bug 750805] Fails to build on ARM, needs to use default setjmp not ucontext

2011-11-04 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750805 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: GNOME vs. Fedora logo in gdm window

2011-11-04 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jos Vos (j...@xos.nl) said: On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 03:10:10PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: This is the fallback GDM, correct? Yes it is (in a KVM console). I now realize that it looks different from the GDM I saw when I tested an earlier beta on a real PC. This is a result of fixing

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: FYI, Gentoo already went to libpng 1.5 and so have patches floating around for a lot of stuff that breaks. from a _quick_ search: http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=libpngbaseproject=openSUSE%3AFactorylang=enexclude_debug=true suse1.4.x/1.2.x stable

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Kevin Fenzi wrote: Whats upstreams schedule like? How long will 1.4 and 1.5 continue to be supported, and when do they plan on a 1.6? forever :-? See http://libpng.sf.net/ UPDATE 2 November 2011: The latest released version is libpng-1.5.6 [DOWNLOAD]. * For legacy applications,

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Henrik Nordström wrote: Documentaiton on how to adopt application code to work properly with libpng 1.4+ is readily available. Some notes from upstream: http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/libpng.html ==cut== Portability Note The libpng 1.5.x series continues the evolution of the libpng API,

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Ian Malone
On 4 November 2011 17:23, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Ian Malone wrote: If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen different bugzilla accounts by now. So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than forwarding the bugs you're too

xfce-weather-plugin stopped working

2011-11-04 Thread Heiko Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, yesterday in the afternoon the xfce-weather-plugin suddenly stopped working and allways displays No Data. Trying to switch my location or update my fedora 16 against updates-testing also didn't solve that problem. Is it just me or a general

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Bojan Smojver
Ian Malone ibmalone at gmail.com writes: This is essentially giving up. It's frustrating to be stuck on overview mode on a four core machine while gnome-shell is doing /something/ but you don't know what. If it worked fluidly it would be okay. For me, it goes further than that. I do not want

Re: reporting bugs

2011-11-04 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 11/04/2011 05:39 PM, Ian Malone wrote: On 4 November 2011 17:23, Kevin Koflerkevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Ian Malone wrote: If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen different bugzilla accounts by now. So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work

Re: xfce-weather-plugin stopped working

2011-11-04 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Heiko Adams fedora-upda...@heiko-adams.de said: yesterday in the afternoon the xfce-weather-plugin suddenly stopped working and allways displays No Data. Trying to switch my location or update my fedora 16 against updates-testing also didn't solve that problem. Does it use

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 21:06 +0100, Henrik Nordström wrote: fre 2011-11-04 klockan 11:53 -0600 skrev Kevin Fenzi: If we do this, next cycle we should NOT do any 'two part' go/no-go meetings. The two part meetings were both about critical blockers that were known and actively being

Broken dependencies: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

2011-11-04 Thread buildsys
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) On i386: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) Please resolve this as soon

File NetAddr-IP-4.056.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2011-11-04 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-NetAddr-IP: eda64e32db45bea44e538a46842baca7 NetAddr-IP-4.056.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 750805] Fails to build on ARM, needs to use default setjmp not ucontext

2011-11-04 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750805 Nicolas Chauvet (kwizart) kwiz...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk

2011-11-04 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741777 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added