EPEL Fedora 5 updates-testing report

2013-07-10 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 5 Security updates need testing: Age URL 445 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5630/bugzilla-3.2.10-5.el5 339 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-6608/Django-1.1.4-2.el5 34

Re: Moving xine-lib and dependent apps to RPM Fusion Free for F17?

2013-07-10 Thread Xavier Bachelot
Hi Kevin, On 01/05/2012 08:56 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: In Kaffeine's case, upstream is switching from xine-lib to MPlayer in their git repository, so it will likely have to move to RPM Fusion sooner or later anyway. I took a look at kaffeine as found in F19 yesterday, and it is still using

Re: Moving xine-lib and dependent apps to RPM Fusion Free for F17?

2013-07-10 Thread Xavier Bachelot
Hi, On 01/05/2012 08:56 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: The following packages currently depend on xine-lib: * gxine * (k9copy – already in RPM Fusion, not affected) * kaffeine (my package, the reason why I maintain xine-lib in the first place) * oxine * xine-plugin * xine-ui These packages would have

Re: Moving xine-lib and dependent apps to RPM Fusion Free for F17?

2013-07-10 Thread Michael J Gruber
Xavier Bachelot venit, vidit, dixit 10.07.2013 10:58: Hi, On 01/05/2012 08:56 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: The following packages currently depend on xine-lib: * gxine * (k9copy – already in RPM Fusion, not affected) * kaffeine (my package, the reason why I maintain xine-lib in the first

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: I've had an entry on my todo list _forever_ to complete the 'deliverables SOP' I started several releases ago: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_releng_SOP_deliverables (I don't really like the

Re: Moving xine-lib and dependent apps to RPM Fusion Free for F17?

2013-07-10 Thread Xavier Bachelot
On 07/10/2013 11:57 AM, Michael J Gruber wrote: Xavier Bachelot venit, vidit, dixit 10.07.2013 10:58: Hi, On 01/05/2012 08:56 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: The following packages currently depend on xine-lib: * gxine * (k9copy – already in RPM Fusion, not affected) * kaffeine (my package, the

F20 Self Contained Change: Application Installer

2013-07-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Application Installer = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller Change owner(s): Richard Hughes rhug...@redhat.com, together with the desktop team We will replace the existing gnome-packagekit frontends (gpk-update-viewer and gpk-application) by a

F20 Self Contained Change: Shared Certificate Tools

2013-07-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Shared Certificate Tools = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SharedCertificateTools Change owner(s): Stef Walter st...@redhat.com Fedora now has infrastructure for sharing system trusted certificates between the various crypto libraries. Tools are being

F20 Self Contained Change: Hadoop

2013-07-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Hadoop = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Hadoop Change owner(s): Matthew Farrellee m...@fedoraproject.org Provide native Apache Hadoop packages. == Detailed description == Apache Hadoop is a widely used, increasingly complete big data platform, with a

Re: Moving xine-lib and dependent apps to RPM Fusion Free for F17?

2013-07-10 Thread Michael J Gruber
Do you top-post on rpmfusion-developers? I'm sorry if I messed that up, I'm not on that list and don't know the policy. We were talking about restructuring the xine packages, and xine-ui was supposed to be subsumed by another package if I remember correctly. Do we move first than repackage? In

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: I've had an entry on my todo list _forever_ to complete the 'deliverables SOP' I started several releases ago:

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:45:53 PM Subject: Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Jaroslav

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Application Installer

2013-07-10 Thread Pete Travis
On Jul 10, 2013 5:25 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Application Installer = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller Change owner(s): Richard Hughes rhug...@redhat.com, together with the desktop team We will replace the existing

Re: Moving xine-lib and dependent apps to RPM Fusion Free for F17?

2013-07-10 Thread Xavier Bachelot
On 07/10/2013 01:42 PM, Michael J Gruber wrote: Do you top-post on rpmfusion-developers? I'm sorry if I messed that up, I'm not on that list and don't know the policy. As on most lists, no, we don't top post, but no worries ;-) We were talking about restructuring the xine packages, and

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/09/2013 08:00 PM, drago01 wrote: On Tuesday, July 9, 2013, Jonathan Masters j...@redhat.com mailto:j...@redhat.com wrote: Matthew, We'll be looking into LLVM in due course. There are a few of us capable of fixing the issue (that you were noted as being extremely concerned about on

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/10/2013 12:36 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Plus, in relation to this - the llvmpipe issue brings up that one of the 'release blocking desktops'*does not work*. This would, by definition, block the release unless we intend to have different criteria for ARM as a primary arch. Then we should

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread drago01
On Wednesday, July 10, 2013, quot;Jóhann B. Guðmundssonquot; johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/09/2013 08:00 PM, drago01 wrote: On Tuesday, July 9, 2013, Jonathan Masters j...@redhat.com wrote: Matthew, We'll be looking into LLVM in due course. There are a few of us capable of fixing the

[off topic] [research] Interview for contributors over 50 for Oregon State University Research

2013-07-10 Thread Jen D
Hello, Researchers at Oregon State University are striving to conduct research to learn more about the free/open source software community landscape as it relates to older adults. We’re looking for older adults who are older than 50 and are currently involved with a free/open source software

I'm going to retire opengl-games-utils

2013-07-10 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All! I've no idea how did I become an opengl-games-utils maintainer in the first place (perhaps I applied as a co-maintainer years ago). Also I think that the package isn't needed anymore, so I'm going to remove myself as a maintainer. If anyone wants to take care of this package, then

Re: I'm going to retire opengl-games-utils

2013-07-10 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All! I've no idea how did I become an opengl-games-utils maintainer in the first place (perhaps I applied as a co-maintainer years ago). Also I think that the package isn't needed anymore, so I'm going to remove

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 06:02:57AM -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: I don't see a problem with different set of blocking desktops for ARM, even as primary architecture. But it's really about resources - do we have people willing to work for example on LXDE (I'd say more resources friendly for

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Application Installer

2013-07-10 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Application Installer = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller Change owner(s): Richard Hughes rhug...@redhat.com, together with the desktop team We will replace the existing gnome-packagekit

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 08:28 -0400, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: I still have serious concerns regarding build times: * arm - https://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=150248 ~ 17h * current primary - https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=429023 ~1h 30m This is

[perl-Dist-CheckConflicts] Created tag perl-Dist-CheckConflicts-0.08-1.fc20

2013-07-10 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Dist-CheckConflicts-0.08-1.fc20' was created pointing to: 2588498... Update to 0.08 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Requesting provenpackager help

2013-07-10 Thread Mattia Verga
Great. Thank you! Il 09/07/2013 20:35, Jochen Schmitt ha scritto: On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 06:48:17PM +0200, Mattia Verga wrote: There's nothing to be changed in spec file, just a rebuild is needed (and to push the update to stable or creating an override in koji). Is there any provenpackager

File Package-Stash-0.35.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2013-07-10 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Package-Stash: 423e99f76382cb71119f5f3a69c1e29e Package-Stash-0.35.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Application Installer

2013-07-10 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 11:12 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Application Installer = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller Change owner(s): Richard Hughes rhug...@redhat.com, together with the

[perl-Package-Stash] Update to 0.35

2013-07-10 Thread Paul Howarth
commit da9669e03c9e2bd63d82c256d6181106852a99c5 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Wed Jul 10 16:32:58 2013 +0100 Update to 0.35 - New upstream release 0.35 - Remove old, deprecated API - BR: perl(Getopt::Long) - perl(Package::DeprecationManager) is no

[HEADS UP] levedb update from 1.9.0 to 1.12.0 for Fedora 19

2013-07-10 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All! I'm updating leveldb from 1.9.0 to 1.12.o for Fedora 19. Actually that's mostly a change of the number in spec-file (NOT a soname bump) and a few compatible enhancements, however I also backported one essential patch from Basho's fork of leveldb, which is required for the next version

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 22:36:39 +0100 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: ...snip... test instances for maintainers as described here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Machine_Resources_For_Package_Maintainers

Re: Problem with abrt update on F18?

2013-07-10 Thread Jakub Filak
On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 16:19 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: I saw this during the update: Updating : abrt-libs-2.1.5-1.fc18.x86_64 10/76 cp: cannot create regular file â/var/tmp/abrt/ccpp-2013-03-27-09:24:26-2877/environâ: No such file or directory cp: cannot create regular file

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Application Installer

2013-07-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:02:24 +0200 Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Application Installer = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller Change owner(s): Richard Hughes rhug...@redhat.com, together with the desktop team We will replace

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Application Installer

2013-07-10 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 09:51 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:02:24 +0200 Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Application Installer = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller Change owner(s): Richard Hughes

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Till Maas
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 10:36:39PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: Which hardware is supported by ARMv7 hfp 32bit builds? Will there be http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM The list is expanding regularly and

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 10:36:39PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: Which hardware is supported by ARMv7 hfp 32bit builds? Will there be

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Peter Jones
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 07:45:53AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: I don't see a problem with different set of blocking desktops for ARM, even as primary architecture. But it's really about resources - do we have people

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Fenzi wrote: I was working on adding 2 more SOC's for packagers earlier this week. I wanted to see how much call there was for these... should I try and make them accessable by all packagers? Or just have a group and interested people could be added to that group? I for one would

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 16:33:28 -0400 Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 06:50:07PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: llvmpipe has been known to be broken for months, and nobody on the ARM team appears capable of fixing it. As

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Peter Jones
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:19:33AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 16:33:28 -0400 Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 06:50:07PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: llvmpipe has been known to be broken

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:19:33AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: armv7 has stack protector, aarch64 which is outside of this proposal doesnt yet have it. from redhat-rpm-config just because gcc accepts a flag, doesn't mean it has been implemented in the compiler. -- devel mailing list

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:57:43 +0200 Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 10:36:39PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: Which hardware is supported by

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: If ARM merely wants to be able to produce something that's similar to Fedora then we should figure out what a spin-based PA would look like, but that's not what's currently being proposed. For F20, this makes more

Heads up, new cfitsio 3.350 in rawhide

2013-07-10 Thread Sergio Pascual
Hello, a new cfitsio (3.350) is going to land tomorrow in rawhide. This version comes with a significant change, upstream provides a soname for the shared library. This means that hopefully updating cfitsio won't be so painful in the future. Regards, Sergio -- devel mailing list

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-07-10)

2013-07-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 09:43:04AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Note: As of this writing, the agenda for this week is very light. The one known agenda item is waiting on information which hasn't been submitted yet. If you have something to discuss, please reply to this e-mail ASAP so we can

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-07-10)

2013-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2013 01:14 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 09:43:04AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Note: As of this writing, the agenda for this week is very light. The one known agenda item is waiting on information which hasn't been

Re: Heads up, new cfitsio 3.350 in rawhide

2013-07-10 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Sergio Pascual sergio.pa...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, a new cfitsio (3.350) is going to land tomorrow in rawhide. This version comes with a significant change, upstream provides a soname for the shared library. This means that hopefully updating cfitsio won't be

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/10/2013 04:09 PM, Peter Jones wrote: That doesn't mean that the release criteria as they stand aren't good for ARM - but they're criteria for evaluating RCs, not the criteria for ARM as a PA. Right It's two different things, and it's important that we not confuse them. The question

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-07-10)

2013-07-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2013 01:14 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 09:43:04AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Note: As of this writing, the agenda for this week is very light. The one known agenda item is

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:19:33AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: armv7 has stack protector, aarch64 which is outside of this proposal doesnt yet have it. Only i?86/x86_64/ppc/ppc64/s390/s390x/sparc/sparc64/tilegx/tilepro really have full stack protector support, while perhaps -fstack-protector

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: GLIBC 2.18

2013-07-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Oops as noted by jreznik, this thread took a brief detour onto the docs list by mistake. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:47:30AM -0400, Robyn Bergeron wrote: - Original Message - From: Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com To: For participants of the Documentation Project

Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting 2013-07-10

2013-07-10 Thread Brendan Conoboy
ARM enthusiasts and watchers, Please join us today (Wednesday, July 10th) at 4PM EDT (8PM UTC) for the Fedora ARM weekly status meeting in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. On the agenda so far: 1) Problem packages 2) Kernel Status Update 3) Aarch64 - Status Update, problem packages

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:45:53 PM Subject: Re: F20 System Wide

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 10:36:39PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: Which hardware

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:19:33AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: armv7 has stack protector, aarch64 which is outside of this proposal doesnt yet have it. Only i?86/x86_64/ppc/ppc64/s390/s390x/sparc/sparc64/tilegx/tilepro

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - From: Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:17:49 PM Subject: Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM,

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com wrote: Yeah, I know the reasons but still this would make it really hard for us to push changes or test a build fix. I would like all archs to have equal attention but not at the price of others. I still have bad

Planned Outage: koji storage move - 2013-07-18 21:00 UTC

2013-07-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Planned Outage: koji storage move - 2013-07-18 21:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2013-07-18 21:00 UTC, which will last approximately 24 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2013-07-18

Re: Moving xine-lib and dependent apps to RPM Fusion Free for F17?

2013-07-10 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:58:22 +0200 Xavier Bachelot wrote: Hi, On 01/05/2012 08:56 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: The following packages currently depend on xine-lib: * gxine * (k9copy – already in RPM Fusion, not affected) * kaffeine (my package, the reason why I maintain xine-lib in

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-07-11 16:00 UTC)

2013-07-10 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2013-06-27 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2013-07-11 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2013-07-11 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2013-07-11

Virtualization on ARM (was: Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture)

2013-07-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 11:32:46AM -0400, Jonathan Masters wrote: Excellent proposal. I of course think this would be just awesome! This proposal doesn't address virtualization! I think this is great, BUT I'd also like to see a widely available cheap ARM platform that supports virtualization,

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Application Installer

2013-07-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 13:02 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Application Installer = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller Change owner(s): Richard Hughes rhug...@redhat.com, together with the desktop team We will replace the existing

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 06:14:24PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: I was working on adding 2 more SOC's for packagers earlier this week. I wanted to see how much call there was for these... should I try and make them accessable by all packagers? Or just have a group and

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 04:17:47PM +0100, Caolán McNamara wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 08:28 -0400, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: I still have serious concerns regarding build times: * arm - https://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=150248 ~ 17h * current primary -

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 06:14:24PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: I was working on adding 2 more SOC's for packagers earlier this week. I wanted to see how much call there was for these... should I

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 07:45 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: I've had an entry on my todo list _forever_ to complete the 'deliverables SOP' I

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 09:46 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 22:36:39 +0100 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: ...snip... test instances for maintainers as described here:

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Application Installer

2013-07-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 09:51 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:02:24 +0200 Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Application Installer = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller Change owner(s): Richard Hughes

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 12:09 -0400, Peter Jones wrote: Is LXDE considered a release blocking desktop? I honestly don't know. I also don't think it matters whether LXDE or FVMW2 or Gnome is the default desktop on ARM. The criteria should probably be that it ships with a desktop that is

Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting Minutes 2013-07-10

2013-07-10 Thread Brendan Conoboy
Thank you everybody for joining today's Fedora-ARM meeting. For those who were unable to attend the minutes are below. Thank you! Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-07-10/fedora-meeting-1.2013-07-10-20.02.html Minutes (text):

Re: GPG verification in SPECs

2013-07-10 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 11:15:05PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: Hi, upstream of pam_mount pointed me to OpenSUSE's gpg-offline RPM macros at https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Base:System/gpg-offline They allow to use a keyring and detached signature as additional source in SPECs to get

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Cole Robinson
On 07/10/2013 05:34 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 09:46 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 22:36:39 +0100 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: ...snip... test instances for

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 18:01 -0400, Cole Robinson wrote: On 07/10/2013 05:34 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 09:46 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 22:36:39 +0100 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Till Maas

Re: Virtualization on ARM (was: Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture)

2013-07-10 Thread M A Young
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 11:32:46AM -0400, Jonathan Masters wrote: Excellent proposal. I of course think this would be just awesome! This proposal doesn't address virtualization! I think this is great, BUT I'd also like to see a widely available

Re: Moving xine-lib and dependent apps to RPM Fusion Free for F17?

2013-07-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Hi, On Wednesday 10 July 2013 at 10:51:44, Xavier Bachelot wrote: I took a look at kaffeine as found in F19 yesterday, and it is still using xine-lib (and does rebuild fine against the xine-lib 1.2.3 rpm I prepared). A quick glance at upstream sources showed there are now an mplayer and vlc

Re: [Owner-change] Fedora packages ownership change

2013-07-10 Thread Matt Rose
I'm not a currently approved packager, but I'd be interested in taking over bsd-mailx. I use it constantly on other platforms and it doesn't make sense to me to drop it. Matt On 2013-07-01, at 2:14 PM, nob...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Change in ownership over the last 168 hours

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-10 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Wed, 03 Jul, 2013 at 04:35:58 GMT, Alex G. wrote: We shouldn't be surprised that update descriptions are crap. They are just an annoyance for a lot of us, especially since we've put all that information in a bunch of other places. Where else would information like the information in this

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 07/10/2013 02:25 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: No. The release blocking desktops are KDE and GNOME. This is stated in the preamble of all release criteria pages, for lack of anywhere better to state it. If we were only proposing headless ARM servers for primary how would these criteria apply?

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Jonathan Masters
That option simply preserves the global stack canary value between tasks during context switch. It's not really core to this. The core piece is userspace compiler tooling. I know the option exists and I thought/was lead to believe it works. But if Jakub has concerns I will add that to the

Orphaning desktopcouch

2013-07-10 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
Hello, I've orphaned desktopcouch in pkdg, I haven't had in interest in quite a while and it could use some attention from more active maintenance. -- Jeff Ollie -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Who uses abi-compliance-checker?

2013-07-10 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qui, 2013-07-04 at 16:47 +0400, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Starting with 1.6 version of pkgdiff if you compare debug packages and add --details option on the command line then the tool will automatically run abi-dumper to dump ABI of old and new shared objects found in the packages and

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Jul 10, 2013 6:08 PM, Brendan Conoboy b...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/10/2013 02:25 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: No. The release blocking desktops are KDE and GNOME. This is stated in the preamble of all release criteria pages, for lack of anywhere better to state it. If we were only

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 09:53:09PM -0400, Jonathan Masters wrote: But also guys, come on. We can't be having random new requirements being added in a bike shedding exercise with the first this being raised happening now. Stack protector is not a new requirement in Fedora. It's been part of

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 06:08:33PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: On 07/10/2013 02:25 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: No. The release blocking desktops are KDE and GNOME. This is stated in the preamble of all release criteria pages, for lack of anywhere better to state it. If we were only

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread DJ Delorie
Stack protector is not a new requirement in Fedora. It's been part of the distribution for years. xterm has been part of the distribution for years also, but it's not a release requirement. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: [Owner-change] Fedora packages ownership change

2013-07-10 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 9.7.2013 17:52, Orion Poplawski napsal(a): On 07/09/2013 12:16 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 8.7.2013 12:00, nob...@fedoraproject.org napsal(a): ruby-mysql [devel] was orphaned by orion A Ruby interface to MySQL https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/ruby-mysql Was this

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 18:08 -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: On 07/10/2013 02:25 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: No. The release blocking desktops are KDE and GNOME. This is stated in the preamble of all release criteria pages, for lack of anywhere better to state it. If we were only proposing

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:43:36AM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Stack protector is not a new requirement in Fedora. It's been part of the distribution for years. xterm has been part of the distribution for years also, but it's not a release requirement. The assumption has always been that

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 20:12 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Jul 10, 2013 6:08 PM, Brendan Conoboy b...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/10/2013 02:25 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: No. The release blocking desktops are KDE and GNOME. This is stated in the preamble of all release criteria pages,

Re: F20 System Wide Change: ARM as primary Architecture

2013-07-10 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 07/10/2013 01:36 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:19:33AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: armv7 has stack protector, aarch64 which is outside of this proposal doesnt yet have it. Only i?86/x86_64/ppc/ppc64/s390/s390x/sparc/sparc64/tilegx/tilepro really have full stack

[Bug 982991] New: perl-DB_File-1.829 is available

2013-07-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982991 Bug ID: 982991 Summary: perl-DB_File-1.829 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-DB_File Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Severity: unspecified

[Bug 982990] New: perl-DateTime-TimeZone-1.60 is available

2013-07-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982990 Bug ID: 982990 Summary: perl-DateTime-TimeZone-1.60 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-DateTime-TimeZone Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged

[Bug 982993] New: perl-Getopt-Long-2.41 is available

2013-07-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982993 Bug ID: 982993 Summary: perl-Getopt-Long-2.41 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Getopt-Long Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Severity:

[Bug 982995] New: perl-Perl-Critic-Tics-0.007 is available

2013-07-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982995 Bug ID: 982995 Summary: perl-Perl-Critic-Tics-0.007 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Perl-Critic-Tics Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged

[Bug 982996] New: perl-Pod-Spell-1.05 is available

2013-07-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982996 Bug ID: 982996 Summary: perl-Pod-Spell-1.05 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Pod-Spell Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Severity: unspecified

[Bug 982998] New: perl-Time-Progress-1.8 is available

2013-07-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982998 Bug ID: 982998 Summary: perl-Time-Progress-1.8 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Time-Progress Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Severity:

[Bug 983001] New: perl-XML-LibXSLT-1.81 is available

2013-07-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=983001 Bug ID: 983001 Summary: perl-XML-LibXSLT-1.81 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-XML-LibXSLT Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Severity:

[Bug 982996] perl-Pod-Spell-1.05 is available

2013-07-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982996 Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED

[perl-Pod-Spell] 1.05 bump

2013-07-10 Thread Petr Šabata
commit 295593ea24e9dd6d25ad6fe47c7d20059f1349dd Author: Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com Date: Wed Jul 10 12:11:53 2013 +0200 1.05 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Pod-Spell.spec | 16 ++-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)

File Pod-Spell-1.05.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2013-07-10 Thread Petr Šabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Pod-Spell: 6346271b76f90c66b191ae58bd235f84 Pod-Spell-1.05.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 982996] perl-Pod-Spell-1.05 is available

2013-07-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982996 Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In

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