EPEL epel beta report: 20140626 changes

2014-06-26 Thread EPEL Beta Report
Compose started at Thu Jun 26 08:15:02 UTC 2014 New package: libsodium-0.5.0-2.el7 A fork of networking and cryptography library with compatible APIs New package: mingw-gsm-1.0.13-1.el7 Shared libraries for GSM speech compressor Removed package: eigen2-2.0.17-6.el7

Re: EPEL rhel7 final content

2014-06-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 09:41:32 -0600 Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 June 2014 09:28, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 08:23:24 -0700 Jeff Sheltren j...@tag1consulting.com wrote: Awesome, thanks! Is there a plan/schedule for getting epel-7

Re: EPEL rhel7 final content

2014-06-26 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 09:18:34AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Hopefully we can get the wiki page with package contents updated soon. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/epel7 is now updated. There is no notation yet, which tells from which channel the package is coming. Regards Till

Re: setterm syntax changed

2014-06-26 Thread Christopher Meng
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: But yes, backwards incompatible changes suck, although in this case setterm has historically done something non-standard. setterm --foreground white --bold --background blue --blank 59 --store produces nearly

Re: setterm syntax changed

2014-06-26 Thread Felix Miata
On 2014-06-26 14:18 (GMT+0800) Christopher Meng composed: Felix Miata wrote: setterm --foreground white --bold --background blue --blank 59 --store produces nearly the same error message: setterm: argument error: --background Note that the argument the message

Re: setterm syntax changed

2014-06-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 06/25/2014 11:52 PM, Felix Miata wrote: I think what's order dependent is a bug in the rewrite to require the double hyphen where previously a single did the job. I tried this: setterm --background blue --foreground white --bold --blank 59 --store That moved the error: setterm:

Re: setterm syntax changed

2014-06-26 Thread Felix Miata
On 2014-06-25 23:54 (GMT-0700) Samuel Sieb composed: Felix Miata wrote: I think what's order dependent is a bug in the rewrite to require the double hyphen where previously a single did the job. I tried this: setterm --background blue --foreground white --bold --blank 59 --store

Re: future contributions and package updates jmarrero

2014-06-26 Thread Nikos Roussos
Hi Joseph, On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 22:22 -0400, Joseph Marrero wrote: Hello, My FAS is : jmarrero I can not update any of my packages for the time being, will know If I can continue contributing in about a month. I can pass the ownership to who ever wants to maintain the packages I currently

Re: yum install kernel = 11 Packages dnf install kernel = Nothing to do

2014-06-26 Thread Ales Kozumplik
On 06/24/2014 04:23 AM, poma wrote: One exemplary example of how to or how to not to. # yum clean all Loaded plugins: langpacks Cleaning repos: rawhide Cleaning up everything # yum --enablerepo \* clean all Loaded plugins: langpacks Cleaning repos: fedora fedora-debuginfo

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v3

2014-06-26 Thread Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:31:18AM +0700, Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich wrote: Package(co)maintainers === NearTree tmatsuu The following packages

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v3

2014-06-26 Thread Christopher Meng
I'd like to claim the ownership of blktap and alliance. What should I do next? DIrectly request the ACL via bugzilla? Thanks. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Attempting to contact three unresponsive maintainers

2014-06-26 Thread Andy Grimm
On Jun 18, 2014 5:28 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Greetings, we've been told that the email addresses for three package maintainers are no longer valid. I'm starting the unresponsive maintainer policy to find out if they are still interested in maintaining their packages (and if

Re: GNU GPL licensed alphabet icon set

2014-06-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2014-06-25, Lukas Zapletal l...@redhat.com wrote: https://github.com/lzap/foreman-dummy-icons Just a bug report. The -draw rectangle 0,0,20,20 argument is responsible for the frame at the edge of the picture. So if you paremetrized: -size ${SIZE}x${SIZE} argument, you need to change

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Simone Caronni
+1 from me! On Jun 26, 2014 5:51 PM, Sandro Mani manisan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, From time to time, I see trivial patches posted in bugzilla which end up sitting there because the maintainer is too busy / gets bombarded with tons of bugzilla mails and misses that particular one / whatever

5tFTw: NetworkManager Feature Explosion, Waartaa Video Chat, Fedora Board on Fedora.next Products, Flock Planning, and Writing for the Magazine (2014-06-24)

2014-06-26 Thread Matthew Miller
Reposted from http://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2014-06-24/. Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to follow it all. This series highlights interesting happenings in five different areas every week. It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just quick summaries with links to each. Here are the five

Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Sandro Mani
Hi, From time to time, I see trivial patches posted in bugzilla which end up sitting there because the maintainer is too busy / gets bombarded with tons of bugzilla mails and misses that particular one / whatever reason. As a packager, sometimes it seems very hard to get such trivial patches

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Richard Hughes
On 26 June 2014 17:02, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com wrote: +1 from me! If it's a trivial patch then I think it makes sense to just do it. From someone that touches hundreds of different projects every month, I've found it's better to ask forgiveness than permission :) Richard -- devel

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread punto...@libero.it
Il 26/06/2014 18:17, Richard Hughes ha scritto: On 26 June 2014 17:02, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com wrote: +1 from me! If it's a trivial patch then I think it makes sense to just do it. From someone that touches hundreds of different projects every month, I've found it's better to ask

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:17:07 +0100 Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 June 2014 17:02, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com wrote: +1 from me! If it's a trivial patch then I think it makes sense to just do it. From someone that touches hundreds of different projects every

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Sandro Mani
On 26.06.2014 18:42, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:17:07 +0100 Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 June 2014 17:02, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com wrote: +1 from me! If it's a trivial patch then I think it makes sense to just do it. From someone that touches

Re: setterm impact changed (was: setterm syntax changed)

2014-06-26 Thread Felix Miata
On 2014-06-26 03:03 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed: On 2014-06-25 23:54 (GMT-0700) Samuel Sieb composed: Felix Miata wrote: setterm --background blue --foreground white --bold --blank 59 --store That moved the error: setterm: argument error: --blank Perhaps the on/off

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:42:17AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I'm not sure the entire group of provenpackagers would like to be notified of such trivial patches waiting. Is there a group of provenpackagers who would be willing to query for and apply these? I am. Another idea that leaps to

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Sandro Mani
On 26.06.2014 19:04, Till Maas wrote: IMHO there is not a huge group needed to handle on-demand provenpackager tasks (as long as it is only required to review and apply a patch to dist-git and potential debugging/scratch building is done before). Good point, adding to the previous conditions

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2014-06-26 11:17, Richard Hughes wrote: On 26 June 2014 17:02, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com wrote: +1 from me! If it's a trivial patch then I think it makes sense to just do it. From someone that touches hundreds of different projects every month, I've found it's better to ask

Re: setterm impact changed (was: setterm syntax changed)

2014-06-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net said: New problem. Now that the kernel is no longer putting the display to sleep and I can start X, I find that setterm command no longer applies only to the vttys. It's now coloring my Konsoles, which I do not want, and I don't see a way in

Re: yum install kernel-devel Installing dnf install kernel-devel Upgrading

2014-06-26 Thread poma
On 26.06.2014 09:39, Ales Kozumplik wrote: Hello, The globbing mechanism in DNF is still evolving and it is possible you are running into one of the cases that we omitted to implement. Or perhaps there is a different problem. Can I ask you to file a bug using

Re: setterm impact changed

2014-06-26 Thread Felix Miata
On 2014-06-26 13:24 (GMT-0500) Chris Adams composed: Felix Miata said: Now that the kernel is no longer putting the display to sleep and I can start X, I find that setterm command no longer applies only to the vttys. It's now coloring my Konsoles, which I do not want, and I don't see a way

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:42:17 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Another idea that leaps to mind is to add more provenpackagers... have we set the bar too high so no one wants to apply? Trivial bug fixing across the project seems to be a reasonable justification for giving out

Re: Attempting to contact three unresponsive maintainers

2014-06-26 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2014-06-18 at 18:41 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: On Wed, 2014-06-18 at 15:28 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: * ssp - former email address sandm...@redhat.com https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/ssp/ Point of contact: 39 Co-maintainer:254 Watched: 0 We're

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:17:07 +0100 Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 June 2014 17:02, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com wrote: +1 from me! If it's a trivial patch then I think it makes sense to just do it.

Re: Attempting to contact three unresponsive maintainers

2014-06-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:42:10 -0400 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2014-06-18 at 18:41 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: On Wed, 2014-06-18 at 15:28 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: * ssp - former email address sandm...@redhat.com https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/ssp/

Re: Attempting to contact three unresponsive maintainers

2014-06-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 06:57:29 -0400 Andy Grimm agr...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 18, 2014 5:28 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: ...snip... * sadmac - former email address cdah...@redhat.com https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/sadmac/ Point of contact: 1

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Mukundan Ragavan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I think having a trivial patch policy and proven packager route of implementation is a great idea! On 06/26/2014 11:42 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: provenpackagers who would be willing to query for and apply these? Another idea that leaps to mind is

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: Deji Akingunola (fas: deji)

2014-06-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 18:19:32 +0200 Sandro Mani manisan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Given that no-one seems to know how to contact deji, I'd like to request the takeover of scotch. as a fesco member I can ack this. We will be orphaning his packages and you can pick up scotch. kevin

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 13:01:05 -0500 Yaakov Selkowitz yselk...@redhat.com wrote: On 2014-06-26 11:17, Richard Hughes wrote: On 26 June 2014 17:02, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com wrote: +1 from me! If it's a trivial patch then I think it makes sense to just do it. From someone that

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Jeff Backus
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: I'm not sure the entire group of provenpackagers would like to be notified of such trivial patches waiting. Is there a group of provenpackagers who would be willing to query for and apply these? Maybe a simple way to allow

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Sandro Mani
On 26.06.2014 22:47, Jeff Backus wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com mailto:ke...@scrye.com wrote: I'm not sure the entire group of provenpackagers would like to be notified of such trivial patches waiting. Is there a group of provenpackagers

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On 2014-06-26 15:33, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 13:01:05 -0500 Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: This seems to be particularly needed around mass rebuilds, which IMHO should be an all-hands-on-deck time. For example, I've been going through the sizable F21FTBFS list[1][2], looking for

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 00:39:52 +0200 Sandro Mani manisan...@gmail.com wrote: So the thing that should be avoided IMO is not defining well enough how the procedure should work, to avoid getting swamped with patches which require additional work to apply. The requirement to fill out post a New

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Sandro Mani
On 27.06.2014 00:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 00:39:52 +0200 Sandro Mani manisan...@gmail.com wrote: So the thing that should be avoided IMO is not defining well enough how the procedure should work, to avoid getting swamped with patches which require additional work to apply.

Re: Self Introduction: Dennis Kliban (dkliban)

2014-06-26 Thread Kenjiro Nakayama
Welcome on board! Kenjiro Dennis Kliban writes: I have been working with the ImageFactory (www.imgfac.org) team over the last 18 months. During that time we developed a second image building project called nova-image-builder (https://github.com/redhat-imaging/novaimagebuilder). At this

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
This is a really good idea. On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 16:55 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: - Should this be rawhide only? That would avoid 'trivial' patches that cause a problem from affecting users that aren't as able to debug them. No, since the primary use for this would probably be

Re: yum install kernel-devel Installing dnf install kernel-devel Installing also

2014-06-26 Thread poma
Reverted installonly: kernel-devel should not be installonly. https://github.com/akozumpl/dnf/commit/e3856e6 # dnf --disablerepo \* --enablerepo rawhide-koji update kernel\* \*perf Dependencies resolved.

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla - trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 01:27:23 +0200 Sandro Mani manisan...@gmail.com wrote: On 27.06.2014 00:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote: ...snip... - Not sure 'trivial' really covers the things you list in examples. FTBFS could be more than trivial depending on the patch. Perhaps the entire thing could be

Package onership

2014-06-26 Thread Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich
Hi! Package NearTree is going to be dropped as it is not built for F21. Its maintainer, tmatsuu, was seen on koji in late 2012, September. I would like to take NearTree as it is reqiured for my rasmol package. I made a request in PkgDB, but who should I notice to grant the rights? Dmitrij. --

Re: Package onership

2014-06-26 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 06/26/2014 11:34 PM, Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich wrote: Package NearTree is going to be dropped as it is not built for F21. Its maintainer, tmatsuu, was seen on koji in late 2012, September. I would like to take NearTree as it is reqiured for my rasmol package. I made a request in PkgDB, but who

[Bug 1112571] perl-Gtk3-WebKit-0.06-2.fc21 FTBFS:

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1112571 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC|

[Bug 1106210] perl-Switch: FTBFS: Not compatible with Filter-1.50

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1106210 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED

[Bug 1105167] perl-Filter-1.50 is available

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1105167 --- Comment #7 from Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com --- (In reply to lav from comment #6) perl-Filter.1.50-1.fc19 breaks Switch module: $ perl -MSwitch Can't call method filter on unblessed reference at - line 1. Thanks for the report. I

[Bug 1105167] perl-Filter-1.50 is available

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1105167 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|CLOSED

[Bug 1112553] perl-Cache-Cache-1.06-15.fc21 FTBFS on loaded machine: t/5_test_size_aware_file_cache.t is time sensitive

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1112553 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED

[Bug 1106210] perl-Switch: FTBFS: Not compatible with Filter-1.50

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1106210 Olivier LAHAYE olivier.laha...@free.fr changed: What|Removed |Added CC|

[Bug 1106210] perl-Switch: FTBFS: Not compatible with Filter-1.50

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1106210 --- Comment #7 from Olivier LAHAYE olivier.laha...@free.fr --- forgot the version when the problem can be seen: - perl-Filter-1.50-1.fc20.x86_64 - perl-Switch-2.16-8.fc20.noarch - perl-5.18.2-289.fc20.x86_64 -- You are receiving this mail

[Bug 1112553] perl-Cache-Cache-1.06-15.fc21 FTBFS on loaded machine: t/5_test_size_aware_file_cache.t is time sensitive

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1112553 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In

[Bug 1106210] perl-Switch: FTBFS: Not compatible with Filter-1.50

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1106210 --- Comment #8 from Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com --- Nah, I think the patch is fine, I just forgot to submit it upstream. I've just done that: https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=96736 I'll go ahead and build for f19/f20.

[Bug 1106210] perl-Switch: FTBFS: Not compatible with Filter-1.50

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1106210 --- Comment #9 from Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com --- (In reply to Olivier LAHAYE from comment #6) I have the problem on fc20 perl -d Loading DB routines from perl5db.pl version 1.39_10 Editor support available. Enter h or 'h h' for

[Bug 1106210] perl-Switch: FTBFS: Not compatible with Filter-1.50

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1106210 --- Comment #11 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-Switch-2.17-1.fc20 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 20. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Switch-2.17-1.fc20 -- You are receiving this mail

[Bug 1106210] perl-Switch: FTBFS: Not compatible with Filter-1.50

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1106210 --- Comment #10 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-Switch-2.17-1.fc19 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 19. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Switch-2.17-1.fc19 -- You are receiving this mail

[Bug 1113638] New: Can't call method filter on unblessed reference

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1113638 Bug ID: 1113638 Summary: Can't call method filter on unblessed reference Product: Fedora Version: 20 Component: perl-Filter Assignee: ppi...@redhat.com Reporter:

[Bug 1113638] Can't call method filter on unblessed reference

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1113638 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED

[Bug 1106210] perl-Switch: FTBFS: Not compatible with Filter-1.50

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1106210 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||sreekumar@live.com

[Bug 1106210] perl-Switch: FTBFS: Not compatible with Filter-1.50

2014-06-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1106210 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA

[389-devel] Please review: [389 Project] #47763: winsync plugin modify is broken

2014-06-26 Thread Noriko Hosoi
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47763 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47763/0001-Ticket-47763-winsync-plugin-modify-is-broken.2.patch git patch file (master; take 2) -- Resurrected original attr_compare_equal -- 389-devel mailing list 389-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[389-devel] Please review: [389 Project] #47834: Tombstone_to_glue: if parents are also converted to glue, the target entry's DN must be adjusted.

2014-06-26 Thread Noriko Hosoi
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47834 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47834/0001-Ticket-47834-Tombstone_to_glue-if-parents-are-also-c.patch -- 389-devel mailing list 389-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-devel