Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > . And the "bandwidth saving" is still badly > overshadowed by the necessary repodata bandwith from almost every run > of "reposync" in the model you've just described. 50 Megabytes, *every > time* it runs unless the metadata for the

Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 19.10.2014 um 02:19 schrieb Solomon Peachy: >> >> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 07:00:19PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >>> >>>3) People who have a lot of hosts and high bandwidth, high speed >>> local deployment requirements can, and

Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.10.2014 um 02:19 schrieb Solomon Peachy: On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 07:00:19PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: 3) People who have a lot of hosts and high bandwidth, high speed local deployment requirements can, and do, set up an internal Fedora mirror with much lower bandwidth costs. Thi

Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-18 Thread Pete Travis
On Oct 18, 2014 5:00 PM, "Nico Kadel-Garcia" wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > My comment was not meant to be argumentative, but rather tongue-in-cheek. > > However, I do believe when changing a default, it isn't about what is > > convenient for me. It's about

Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-18 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 07:00:19PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > 3) People who have a lot of hosts and high bandwidth, high speed > local deployment requirements can, and do, set up an internal Fedora > mirror with much lower bandwidth costs. This reduces the tangible > benefits of deltarpms

Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > My comment was not meant to be argumentative, but rather tongue-in-cheek. > However, I do believe when changing a default, it isn't about what is > convenient for me. It's about what is best for the entire community and > what are the real

Re: civil discussion on fedora lists

2014-10-18 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 23:18:12 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > with my way communication is *much more* efficient Empirical evidence, makes me disagree with this statement. Effective communication includes understanding the human nature of your interlocutor. But I understand you do not like that. Go

Re: civil discussion on fedora lists

2014-10-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.10.2014 um 23:07 schrieb Simo Sorce: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 22:51:52 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: They do not say something like: "Sorry , I did not understand, can you repeat ?" the say "bitte?" like "please" in english (one single word) but for sure not "I'm not sure I understand the p

Re: civil discussion on fedora lists

2014-10-18 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 22:51:52 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 18.10.2014 um 22:43 schrieb Simo Sorce: > > On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:14:52 +0200 > > Reindl Harald wrote: > > > >> > >> Am 18.10.2014 um 09:10 schrieb Miroslav Suchy: > >>> On 10/17/2014 08:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > You c

[perl-Time-Progress/el5] 2014-10-18: Retired, because it was orphaned and not available in the EPEL5 repo

2014-10-18 Thread Till Maas
commit 7465d078fb8e7fdb650090da9167db486f03c070 Author: Till Maas Date: Sat Oct 18 23:09:35 2014 +0200 2014-10-18: Retired, because it was orphaned and not available in the EPEL5 repo .gitignore |1 - dead.package|2 + perl-Time-Progress.spec | 51 -

Re: civil discussion on fedora lists

2014-10-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.10.2014 um 22:43 schrieb Simo Sorce: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:14:52 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.10.2014 um 09:10 schrieb Miroslav Suchy: On 10/17/2014 08:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: You can say something like "I'm not sure I understand the point you are making. Particularly, I d

Re: civil discussion on fedora lists

2014-10-18 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:14:52 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 18.10.2014 um 09:10 schrieb Miroslav Suchy: > > On 10/17/2014 08:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > >> You can say something like "I'm not sure I understand the point > >> you are making. Particularly, I don't see how __ follows.

Re: New hardware for Retrace Server

2014-10-18 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-10-15 at 18:02 +0200, Michal Toman wrote: > - Retracing now runs in memory, which means faster generating of > backtraces (by an order of magnitude) Wow, you weren't kidding. It is much faster than before. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel

Re: civil discussion on fedora lists

2014-10-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.10.2014 um 17:10 schrieb Matthew Miller: On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 01:14:52PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Ha Ha. I heard exactly that from my English teacher several weeks ago. For myself, this is cultural difference too. I would never use such wording in my native language. (Disclaimer: I'

Re: civil discussion on fedora lists

2014-10-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 01:14:52PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >Ha Ha. I heard exactly that from my English teacher several weeks ago. > >For myself, this is cultural difference too. I would never use such > >wording in my native language. (Disclaimer: I'm not targeting the > >original thread, bu

Re: civil discussion on fedora lists

2014-10-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 09:10:46AM +0200, Miroslav Suchy wrote: > >And conversely, if you feel like your position isn't being listened > >to, try "I guess I'm not making myself very clear. Let me try to > >restate Does this make more sense?" > Ha Ha. I heard exactly that from my English teacher

Re: Tripwire fails to build for F21 and Rawhide

2014-10-18 Thread Till Maas
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 05:04:44AM -0700, Moez Roy wrote: > I guess now I need to wait for the maintainer to do 'git merge > origin/epel7' and build it for F21 and master. I did this now as provenpackager. Regards Till -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproj

Re: Tripwire fails to build for F21 and Rawhide

2014-10-18 Thread Moez Roy
Thanks. I committed the suggested change in epel7 branch (as I don't have commit access on master / f21). https://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/tripwire.git/commit/?h=epel7&id=107f956898d439b7d602438369d09fffe96547bf And here is the scratch build: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskI

Re: civil discussion on fedora lists

2014-10-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.10.2014 um 09:10 schrieb Miroslav Suchy: On 10/17/2014 08:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: You can say something like "I'm not sure I understand the point you are making. Particularly, I don't see how __ follows. Can you explain that in more depth?" And conversely, if you feel like y

rawhide report: 20141018 changes

2014-10-18 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Oct 18 05:15:07 UTC 2014 Broken deps for i386 -- [3Depict] 3Depict-0.0.16-3.fc22.i686 requires libmgl.so.7.2.0 [Agda] ghc-Agda-2.3.2.2-5.fc22.i686 requires libHSterminfo-0.3.2.5-ghc7.6.3.so ghc-Ag

F-21 Branched report: 20141018 changes

2014-10-18 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Sat Oct 18 07:15:03 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [PyQuante] PyQuante-libint-1.6.4-11.fc21.1.armv7hl requires libint(armv7hl-32) = 0:1.1.6-2.fc21 [audtty] audtty-0.1.12-9.fc20.armv7hl requires libaudcli

Orphaned packages in rawhide

2014-10-18 Thread opensource
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If y

Orphaned packages in branched

2014-10-18 Thread opensource
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If y

Re: Can you help with making fonts awesome in Fedora 21?

2014-10-18 Thread Rajeesh K Nambiar
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:22 AM, pravin@gmail.com wrote: > > > On 16 October 2014 15:14, Richard Hughes wrote: >> >> If you maintain a font in Fedora, or are a provenpackager, I could >> really need your help this weekend. Basically, we want to implement >> AppStream metadata[1] for all the

Re: civil discussion on fedora lists

2014-10-18 Thread Miroslav Suchy
On 10/17/2014 08:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: You can say something like "I'm not sure I understand the point you are making. Particularly, I don't see how __ follows. Can you explain that in more depth?" And conversely, if you feel like your position isn't being listened to, try "I gues