Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread kendell clark
hi This brings up a very good point. Why wasn't some kind of user feedback not developed for gnome 3.18? Now I am still waiting for gnome 3.18 to hit arch, and my fedora rawhide instal doesn't have it yet, so this could've been added, but I doubt it having checked the commit logs and news files. I

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 00:40:24 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote: > But that's just happening, there's no user interaction. The user isnt > waiting on it. Software, on the other hand, is being asked "Hey can you > check for updates?" And then not displaying the feedback the user was > expecting until it

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Eric Griffith
On Sep 30, 2015 12:22 AM, "Ben Boeckel" wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Sep, 2015 at 17:08:17 GMT, Eric Griffith wrote: > > update system-- yum never downloaded the packages as part of the check, DNF > > doesn't, App Store / Play Store don't download as part of a check, Windows > > Update doesn't > > That's

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Tue, 29 Sep, 2015 at 17:08:17 GMT, Eric Griffith wrote: > update system-- yum never downloaded the packages as part of the check, DNF > doesn't, App Store / Play Store don't download as part of a check, Windows > Update doesn't That's not exactly true anymore for Windows. http://arstechni

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Andrew Clayton
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:32:51 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > We only do the auto-refresh on wired or wifi connections. If you chose > to do the manual refresh button on mobile data that's up to the user. My ADSL connection (in the UK) is metered which is why I've masked off all the dnf systemd stu

RE: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Avery, David
Mobile connections are not the only metered connections out there. There are plenty of ISPs that still have traffic limits and metered packages, maybe not where you live but elsewhere in the world dave -Original Message- From: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:devel-boun...

scriplet issues installing deps in f23 mock

2015-09-29 Thread Cole Robinson
I'm hitting scriplet errors when trying to build f23 qemu in mock on an up to date f23 host. Example: $ mock --root fedora-23-x86_64 --init ... $ mock --root fedora-23-x86_64 --rebuild qemu-2.4.0-4.fc23.src.rpm ... Transaction Summary ==

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2015-09-30)

2015-09-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 18:00UTC (1:00pm EST) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic ticket #1480 F24 Schedule .fesco 1480 #

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 22:26 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > I don't see anything in that which says it detects wifi tethering. > > 'capture portal detection' is something else, and exposing whether > > a > > connection is metered or not through the API is nice, but doesn't > > mean > > the informatio

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 01:20:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > > Is there a reliable way to detect that though? If I tether via my > > > > phone or > > > > turn my phone into a hotspot it comes up as Ethernet or WiFi, > > > > respectively. > > > > It seems like we are going to run

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 21:53 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:21:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 14:38 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote: > > > There's also the fact that if > > > > > the connection is metered then we just ripped through a chunk > > > > >

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:21:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 14:38 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote: > > There's also the fact that if > > > > the connection is metered then we just ripped through a chunk of > > > > their > > data. > > > > > > We only do the auto-refresh on w

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 14:38 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote: > There's also the fact that if > > > the connection is metered then we just ripped through a chunk of > > > their > data. > > > > We only do the auto-refresh on wired or wifi connections. If you > > chose > > to do the manual refresh button

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Eric Griffith
On Sep 29, 2015 1:32 PM, "Richard Hughes" wrote: > > On 29 September 2015 at 18:08, Eric Griffith wrote: > > That seems like a really bad idea.. > > The alternative is we have a "download" stage, which means we can't do > the blue "restart and update" action as it would download for a few > minut

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Richard Hughes
On 29 September 2015 at 18:08, Eric Griffith wrote: > That seems like a really bad idea.. The alternative is we have a "download" stage, which means we can't do the blue "restart and update" action as it would download for a few minutes, and then randomly reboot when you had just started doing so

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Albino B Neto
2015-09-29 14:08 GMT-03:00 Eric Griffith : > That seems like a really bad idea.. The icon for "check for updates" gives > off the perception of "check" or "refresh", I would not assume either of > those actions would actually download the updates. It leads to a bad user > experience, as evident abo

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Eric Griffith
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 29 September 2015 at 14:50, Eric Griffith > wrote: > > Installing applications is fine but updates always seem to take two-three > > times as long to display available updates vs me running "dnf update" and > > getting a package list b

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Albino B Neto
2015-09-29 10:50 GMT-03:00 Eric Griffith : > Gnome Software definitely needs some love on the performance side of things. > Installing applications is fine but updates always seem to take two-three > times as long to display available updates vs me running "dnf update" and > getting a package list

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Richard Hughes
On 29 September 2015 at 14:50, Eric Griffith wrote: > Installing applications is fine but updates always seem to take two-three > times as long to display available updates vs me running "dnf update" and > getting a package list back. gnome-software is actually depsolving and downloading the upda

Fedora 23 Branched 20150929 compose check report

2015-09-29 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. No images in this compose but not 23 Branched 20150928 No images in 23 Branched 20150928 but not this. -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-qa.git/tree/check-compose -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://a

Fedora Rawhide 20150929 compose check report

2015-09-29 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. No images in this compose but not Rawhide 20150928 Images in Rawhide 20150928 but not this: Cloud_atomic vagrant virtualbox x86_64 Cloud_atomic vagrant libvirt x86_64 -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-qa.git/tree/check-compo

Re: F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Eric Griffith
Gnome Software definitely needs some love on the performance side of things. Installing applications is fine but updates always seem to take two-three times as long to display available updates vs me running "dnf update" and getting a package list back. Not sure if dnf is just that much faster or i

F22: Software for update

2015-09-29 Thread Albino B Neto
Hi The software for update on system is bug, because, I loading more five minutes to show packages no messages, still loading...I tested many times. I use 'dnf update', not interface. Albino -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: How to make .spec Requires for libXXX.so.VER

2015-09-29 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:32:06 +0200, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Seg, 2015-09-28 at 09:11 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > > This works for Requires (or Recommends) but not for BuildRequires: > > Sorry if it is off-topic ... > I got a similar question, I just tested and the following works in > copr :

Re: How to make .spec Requires for libXXX.so.VER

2015-09-29 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi, On Seg, 2015-09-28 at 09:11 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 21:48:24 +0200, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Jan Kratochvil > > wrote: > > > (1) How to make a dependency on librpm.so.7? > > > > > > librpm.so.7 is in rpm-libs-4.12.90-3.fc24.x86_64 wh

F24 System Wide Change: Python 3.5

2015-09-29 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Python 3.5 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/python3.5 Change owner(s): * Robert Kuska * Matej Stuchlik Update the Python 3 stack in Fedora from Python 3.4 to Python 3.5. == Detailed Description == Python 3.5 adds numerous features and optimizations. See t

Re: F23 -> Rawhide upgrade fails to start GDM

2015-09-29 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 29.9.2015 v 12:48 Richard Bradfield napsal(a): > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015, at 07:02, drago01 wrote: >> Please file a bug against selinux-policy. > I have done so: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1267207 BTW With updated Mesa, pressing spacebar several times to close to Oh-No message

F-23 Branched report: 20150929 changes

2015-09-29 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Sep 29 07:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for armhfp -- [CableSwig] CableSwig-3.20.0-13.fc23.armv7hl requires gccxml [apache-scout] apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:uddi-ws)

rawhide report: 20150929 changes

2015-09-29 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Sep 29 05:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for i386 -- [CableSwig] CableSwig-3.20.0-13.fc23.i686 requires gccxml [IQmol] IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_serialization.so.1.58.0 IQmol-2.3.0-9.f

refresh html page for f23-failures

2015-09-29 Thread gil
hi someone can refresh html page for f23-failures [1]? for know the actual packages status progress thanks in advance regards gil [1] http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/mass-rebuild/f23-failures.html -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/list

Re: F23 -> Rawhide upgrade fails to start GDM

2015-09-29 Thread Richard Bradfield
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015, at 07:02, drago01 wrote: > > Please file a bug against selinux-policy. I have done so: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1267207 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http