[Test-Announce] 2018-06-04 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2018-06-02 Thread Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2018-06-04 # Time: 15:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! We haven't met for a couple of weeks, and there are some active discussions about release criteria, s

Re: Review swap request

2018-06-02 Thread Eamon Walsh
On 6/2/2018 1:34 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Hi all, > > The linux-igd package no longer builds against the latest libupnp > package and upstream is dead so I'm going to retire it. > > To replace it I am packaging miniupnpd, which is strangely not in > Fedora while the client tool, miniupnpc,

Re: Change in Copr retention policy?

2018-06-02 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 4:30 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Do you have a use case for using ancient fedoras repos? What is better for > you: to have ancient fedora repos or to have > more architectures in Copr? More arches for sure. Even if multi-arch was not a consideration, it seems like a lot o

Review swap request

2018-06-02 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Hi all, The linux-igd package no longer builds against the latest libupnp package and upstream is dead so I'm going to retire it. To replace it I am packaging miniupnpd, which is strangely not in Fedora while the client tool, miniupnpc, is packaged. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?

Re: Hiding the grub menu by default on single OS installs

2018-06-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Note that this is exactly why this is a F30 thing, to give us > a chance to figure out how exactly to detect a failed boot. > > Also I would like to note that Windows has been doing more or > less the same since Vista and it does not seem t

Re: Hiding the grub menu by default on single OS installs

2018-06-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 9:00 AM, John Florian wrote: > Also, I'm entirely unclear on the scope. Is the affecting Fedora > Workstation (GNOME) only or all spins? The proposal says Workstation > but it doesn't explicitly exempt the others, unless I missed something. > If it's confined to the Works

Re: Hiding the grub menu by default on single OS installs

2018-06-02 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
Chris Adams kirjoitti 31.05.2018 klo 20:09: Once upon a time, Hans de Goede said: On 31-05-18 15:08, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Hans de Goede said: And for F30, single OS install we get: 1) grub menu not shown, 0 second timeout, no way to get to the menu 2) grub menu shown with 5

Re: Hiding the grub menu by default on single OS installs

2018-06-02 Thread John Florian
On 06/01/2018 12:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Michael Watters wrote: > >> What about users that don't use a graphical login manager? Personally I >> *like* seeing boot messages so that I know what is going on. >> >> Having the menu available is also quite useful for booting into rescue >> mode or se

Re: Hiding the grub menu by default on single OS installs

2018-06-02 Thread John Florian
On 06/01/2018 03:07 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > Hans de Goede writes: >> 1) . . ., no way to get to the menu > I think this steps over a line we should not cross. > > There's a huge difference between HIDING grub's functionality, and > essentially DISABLING it. While I'm opposted to hiding the grub m

Notifications about "builds started to fail in Fedora rawhide"

2018-06-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
Can the service that creates these notifications be improved to include an excerpt of the problems that cause a build to fail? [...] Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 23:37:57 + (UTC) From: notifications fedoraproject org Subject: claws-mail's builds started to fail in Fedora r

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Strong crypto settings: phase 2

2018-06-02 Thread Christian Stadelmann
I just saw that SSL pulse has data on TLS versions supported under the "Protocol Support" section. It shows that 8.1% of all websites don't have TLS 1.2 support. Surely, this data is not weighted by real-world usage nor by how it will affect people, but it does sort of speak against this radical

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Strong crypto settings: phase 2

2018-06-02 Thread Christian Stadelmann
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 01:40:58PM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > What is the availibility of TLS 1.2 vs 1.1/1.0 on the internet ? > ie how likely is this to break the ability of users to access websites > they care about ? There is quite a lot, sadly. I'd say about 0.1…1% of all internet sites of my