[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing report

2023-07-12 Thread updates
The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing openbgpd-8.1-1.el7 xrootd-5.6.1-1.el7 Details about builds: openbgpd-8.1-1.el7 (FEDORA-EPEL-2023-b6e1053f4b) OpenBGPD Routing Daemon

[Bug 2219204] perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.20230703 is available

2023-07-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2219204 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.2 |perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.2

[Bug 2215501] perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.20230616 is available

2023-07-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2215501 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.2 |perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.2

[Bug 2217108] perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.20230623 is available

2023-07-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2217108 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.2 |perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.2

[Bug 2219204] perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.20230703 is available

2023-07-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2219204 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |ERRATA Status|ON_QA

[Bug 2217108] perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.20230623 is available

2023-07-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2217108 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ON_QA |CLOSED Resolution|---

[Bug 2215501] perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.20230616 is available

2023-07-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2215501 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.2 |perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.2

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Clean Systemd-boot installs (Self-Contained_

2023-07-12 Thread Jeremy Linton
Hi, Thanks for looking at this, and sorry about the delay I was on PTO for a few days. On 6/28/23 09:15, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 12:24:04PM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote: But, IMHO the largest change is moving the boot kernel/initrd to the ESP, rather than the use of

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing report

2023-07-12 Thread updates
The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing centpkg-0.7.4-2.el8 java-runtime-decompiler-7.3-2.el8 openbgpd-8.1-1.el8 rizin-0.5.2-2.el8 wasmedge-0.13.1-1.el8 xrootd-5.6.1-1.el8 Details about builds:

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-12 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 7/6/23 12:10, Aoife Moloney wrote: > Important process note: we are experimenting with using Fedora > Discussion as part of the Changes process. Change announcements (like > the one you are reading right now) will still be sent to the > devel-announce mailing list, but the conversation about

[Bug 2222474] perl-File-Listing-6.16 is available

2023-07-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474 --- Comment #2 from Upstream Release Monitoring --- the-new-hotness/release-monitoring.org's scratch build of perl-File-Listing-6.16-1.fc38.src.rpm for rawhide completed http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=103286993 -- You

[Bug 2222474] perl-File-Listing-6.16 is available

2023-07-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474 --- Comment #1 from Upstream Release Monitoring --- Created attachment 1975499 --> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1975499=edit Update to 6.16 (#474) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for

[Bug 2222474] New: perl-File-Listing-6.16 is available

2023-07-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474 Bug ID: 474 Summary: perl-File-Listing-6.16 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW Component: perl-File-Listing Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-12 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 7/6/23 21:17, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Thu, Jul 6 2023 at 07:42:47 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour > wrote: >> Then make the metrics be neither opt-in nor opt-out. Have >> “Enable telemetry (y/n)?” be a mandatory question in the >> installer, >> which the user must answer. > > The

Re: What is this update waiting on?

2023-07-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2023-07-12 at 15:18 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 01:57:16PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2023-07-12 at 21:45 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-129c8286a0 > > > > > > This one seems a bit

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-07-12 Thread Leslie Satenstein via devel
SUSE has also jumped in to say they will provide an alternative, but compatible Linux to RH. Leslie Satenstein On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 06:49:38 a.m. GMT-4, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Oracle has (finally – the community projects Rocky and Alma were much quicker to

Re: What is this update waiting on?

2023-07-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 01:57:16PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2023-07-12 at 21:45 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-129c8286a0 > > > > This one seems a bit different. There seem to be no tests running. > > The test gating status

Re: OCaml binary stripping (was: Re: OCaml 5 again)

2023-07-12 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 3:34 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > I looked through the section names with objdump -h and none of them > looked unusual. However I think in the past when we analyzed this we > found it was doing something really crazy, like actually appending the > bytecode to the file

Re: OCaml binary stripping (was: Re: OCaml 5 again)

2023-07-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 09:21:40PM +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 09:54:49AM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 4:38 AM Richard W.M. Jones > > wrote: > > > During the OCaml 5 rebuild I found there's a generic problem on s390x > > > & ppc64le

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-12 Thread Jeremy Newton
+1 Yes this has been mentioned many times on the thread. You can't say the user has consented but also have it opt-out. Saying that opt-in data isn't useful because most users won't opt-in is implying the desire of a dark pattern to encourage more data collection.

Re: What is this update waiting on?

2023-07-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2023-07-12 at 21:45 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-129c8286a0 > > This one seems a bit different. There seem to be no tests running. > The test gating status is "ignored" (I didn't do that). And otherwise > it seems to be doing

Re: What is this update waiting on?

2023-07-12 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 10:46 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-129c8286a0 > > This one seems a bit different. There seem to be no tests running. > The test gating status is "ignored" (I didn't do that). And otherwise > it seems to be doing

Re: What is this update waiting on?

2023-07-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-129c8286a0 This one seems a bit different. There seem to be no tests running. The test gating status is "ignored" (I didn't do that). And otherwise it seems to be doing nothing. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-12 Thread Jeremy Newton
Agreed 100%. Dark patterning or similar isn't the way to go. If telemetry is included, it should be opt-in with very clear explanation of why opt-ing in is important and beneficial. Opt-out and "by consent" are mutually exclusive in most circumstances.

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-12 Thread Jeremy Newton
Unfortunately this might just be what happens. I know that I would personally always opt out on principle, and would vote for opt-in or dropping the proposal. I am under the impression that most Fedora users are in the same boat as me. ___ devel

Re: FYI OCaml 5.0 rebuild is under way

2023-07-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 06:00:02PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 10:48:46AM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 9:37 AM Richard W.M. Jones > > wrote: > > > - ocaml-atd > > > > > >Fails to build because it requires Python3 flake8 which is > > >

Re: FYI OCaml 5.0 rebuild is under way

2023-07-12 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 11:04 AM Jerry James wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 11:00 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > My test build of the swig package, which succeeded, was done with > > > python 3.11. I suspect that this is python 3.12 breakage. The OCaml > > > testsuite passed, so this

Re: OCaml binary stripping (was: Re: OCaml 5 again)

2023-07-12 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 09:54:49AM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 4:38 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > During the OCaml 5 rebuild I found there's a generic problem on s390x > > & ppc64le (ie. the bytecode-only architectures) involving stripping of > > OCaml binaries.

Re: What is this update waiting on?

2023-07-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2023-07-12 at 18:37 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 6:26 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-8d5b08b005 > > > > I don't understand what this update is waiting on / why it cannot go > > to Fedora

Re: What is this update waiting on?

2023-07-12 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 6:37 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 6:26 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-8d5b08b005 > > > > I don't understand what this update is waiting on / why it cannot go > > to Fedora immediately.

Re: FYI OCaml 5.0 rebuild is under way

2023-07-12 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 11:00 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > - swig > > > > > >This also should work but does not. It has a very opaque failures > > >in the test suite. I'm going to try to reproduce this one locally. > > > > This is the failure: > > > > checking python testcase

Re: FYI OCaml 5.0 rebuild is under way

2023-07-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 10:48:46AM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 9:37 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > - ocaml-atd > > > >Fails to build because it requires Python3 flake8 which is > >uninstallable at the moment. > > It is used for testing only, so we can disable

Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2023-07-12

2023-07-12 Thread Dusty Mabe
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-07-12/fedora_coreos_meeting.2023-07-12-16.30.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-07-12/fedora_coreos_meeting.2023-07-12-16.30.txt Log:

Re: FYI OCaml 5.0 rebuild is under way

2023-07-12 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 9:37 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > - ocaml-atd > >Fails to build because it requires Python3 flake8 which is >uninstallable at the moment. It is used for testing only, so we can disable the python tests for now to get this to build. > - ocaml-camlp5 > >

Re: What is this update waiting on?

2023-07-12 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 6:26 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-8d5b08b005 > > I don't understand what this update is waiting on / why it cannot go > to Fedora immediately. > > I waived the tests. > > There are still apparently 5 tests

What is this update waiting on?

2023-07-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-8d5b08b005 I don't understand what this update is waiting on / why it cannot go to Fedora immediately. I waived the tests. There are still apparently 5 tests "running", but clicking through to the Automated Tests tab shows only 4. There's no

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-12 Thread Christopher Klooz via devel
Matt has started a poll with regards to the community's preferences about the topic: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/straw-poll-on-your-preferences-about-opt-in-opt-out-for-possible-data-collection/85675/2 On 7/12/23 12:37, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi, On Tuesday, 2023-07-11 08:17:07

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-12 Thread Christopher Klooz via devel
Matt has started a poll with regards to the community's preferences about the topic: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/straw-poll-on-your-preferences-about-opt-in-opt-out-for-possible-data-collection/85675/2 On 7/12/23 12:37, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi, On Tuesday, 2023-07-11 08:17:07 -0500,

[Test-Announce] Kernel 6.4.3 is now available for testing in koji

2023-07-12 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
Hey Folks, We are currently running the Fedora Kernel Test Week before we rebase 6.4. There is a new build 6.4.3 is fresh and you can now provide feedback! Thanks a lot to all for making the test weeks so successful. The links for test weeks can be found here[0]. Results can be submitted here[1]

Re: OCaml binary stripping (was: Re: OCaml 5 again)

2023-07-12 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 4:38 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > During the OCaml 5 rebuild I found there's a generic problem on s390x > & ppc64le (ie. the bytecode-only architectures) involving stripping of > OCaml binaries. A good example is supermin on s390x: > > # uname -a > Linux

Re: FYI OCaml 5.0 rebuild is under way

2023-07-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 10:05:10PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Jerry James & I are doing a rebuild of all OCaml packages. This is mostly complete now, and I have submitted an update: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-8d5b08b005 I managed to build 175 packages out 186.

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 73.2

2023-07-12 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
FYI, postponing this to tomorrow, qt6 packages are unbuildable in rawhide (unrelated to this change). On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 10:33 AM Mamoru TASAKA wrote: > Frantisek Zatloukal wrote on 2023/07/12 17:18: > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 8:36 AM Mamoru TASAKA > > > wrote: > > > >> I am not the

Re: Immutable Variants & Persistence

2023-07-12 Thread Felipe Borges
On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 7:24 PM Jonathan Steffan wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 10:47 AM Jonathan Steffan > wrote: >> >> 2. All userspace is in RAM > > > For example, let's install `dnf install tuxpuck`. I'd expect `tuxpuck` to be > installed and playable. I wouldn't have to reboot after

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

2023-07-12 Thread Mikel Olasagasti
Hau idatzi du Fabio Valentini (decatho...@gmail.com) erabiltzaileak (2023 uzt. 12(a), az. (11:53)): > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 10:06 PM Mikel Olasagasti > wrote: > > > > (snip) > > > > > > golang-github-moby-spdystreamgo-sig, mikelo2 > > > > Builds fine in Koschei and no BZ > > > >

Re: Immutable Variants & Persistence

2023-07-12 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 7/11/23 19:23, Jonathan Steffan wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 10:47 AM Jonathan Steffan > mailto:jonathanstef...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > 2. All userspace is in RAM > > > For example, let's install `dnf install tuxpuck`. I'd expect `tuxpuck` > to be installed and playable. I wouldn't have

OCaml binary stripping (was: Re: OCaml 5 again)

2023-07-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
During the OCaml 5 rebuild I found there's a generic problem on s390x & ppc64le (ie. the bytecode-only architectures) involving stripping of OCaml binaries. A good example is supermin on s390x: # uname -a Linux e132ed8a0a9b4411b210e43e253581f0 6.4.0-59.fc39.s390x #1 SMP Mon Jun 26 11:55:15

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-12 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi, On Tuesday, 2023-07-11 08:17:07 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > I think what happens is: somebody (anybody) can report a post, if it gets > enough reports it gets proactively hidden before a moderator can review it. > Do our moderators eventually review such posts to ensure they're truly >

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

2023-07-12 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 10:06 PM Mikel Olasagasti wrote: > (snip) > > > golang-github-moby-spdystreamgo-sig, mikelo2 > > Builds fine in Koschei and no BZ > > > golang-github-openapi-validate alexsaezm, go-sig > > Builds fine in Koschei and no BZ This is usually an

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230712.n.0 changes

2023-07-12 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20230711.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20230712.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:7 Dropped images: 3 Added packages: 13 Dropped packages:2 Upgraded packages: 119 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 3.89 MiB Size of dropped packages

gimp-help license corrected

2023-07-12 Thread Josef Řídký
Hi, gimp-help license was changed from GFDL and GPLv2+ to GFDL-1.2-invariants-only as GPLv2+ is license used for scripts used during build time only and those scripts are not part of final language/help packages. Best regards Josef Ridky Senior Software Engineer Core Services Team Red Hat

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 73.2

2023-07-12 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
Frantisek Zatloukal wrote on 2023/07/12 17:18: On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 8:36 AM Mamoru TASAKA wrote: I am not the maintainer of brltty, but just adding "BR: gcc" makes brltty compile on all arches (against f39): https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=103255038 I am not sure to

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 73.2

2023-07-12 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 8:36 AM Mamoru TASAKA wrote: > I am not the maintainer of brltty, but just adding "BR: gcc" makes > brltty compile on all arches (against f39): > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=103255038 > > I am not sure to what side-tag I should build brltty for

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 73.2

2023-07-12 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
I'd submitted the side-tag for merging to f39 base: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-18495e9c7c There are a bunch of packages missing, these will be handled after the side merge. If I didn't miss anything, all of the failures were FTBFS already. Since we have libicu72 in the

[Bug 2222182] New: perl-Module-Reader-0.003003-18.fc39 FTBFS with Perl 5.38: t/memory.t fails on a different wording

2023-07-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=182 Bug ID: 182 Summary: perl-Module-Reader-0.003003-18.fc39 FTBFS with Perl 5.38: t/memory.t fails on a different wording Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 73.2

2023-07-12 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
Frantisek Zatloukal wrote on 2023/07/12 7:35: On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 11:06 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Yes I think it's better if you could proceed with brltty. Note I pushed a commit earlier today which excludes %{ix86} from the OCaml subpackage. In OCaml 5 / Fedora 39 we are going to