[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing report

2024-04-02 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 7 Security updates need testing: Age URL 5 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2024-15cde9f00b chromium-123.0.6312.58-1.el7 4 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2024-07e8f5f1f0 libopenmpt-0.7.6-1.el7 The following builds

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing report

2024-04-02 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 8 Security updates need testing: Age URL 6 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2024-fc233c6d2e chromium-123.0.6312.58-1.el8 6 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2024-0ced8d6066 tinyxml-2.6.2-28.el8 4

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Why not the opposite: > > Download Workstation > > [I'm a linux user and know what I want, just show me the full list of > downloads, click here]? Because that still leads people to click that "Download Workstation" link before even seeing the options. "I do not want to

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Adam Williamson wrote: > I mean, we really don't need to speculate about this much. We did an > entire overhaul of the project - Fedora.next That was for Fedora 21 in 2014! As you stated it, I know you and I have been around forever and 2014 feels like yesterday, but it was really quite a long

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Steve Cossette wrote: > Sorry, that's pretty much how things are right now, is that what you were > trying to demonstrate? > > I'm not really following. Not really. The current design is better than those old designs that immediately served you an ISO when you clicked "Download now", but the

[Bug 2270834] perl-Pod-Weaver-4.020 is available

2024-04-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2270834 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|perl-Pod-Weaver-4.020-1.fc4 |perl-Pod-Weaver-4.020-1.fc4

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 02:36:07AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Ok, thats obvously somewhat tounge in cheek, but if we promote multiple > > things, we need some way to describe them to uses who might not know the > > history of things and do it in a quick enough

[Bug 2272636] perl-SDL-2.548-22.fc41 FTBFS with SDL2-2.30.1: t/core_events.t fails: Can't use an undefined value as a subroutine reference during global destruction

2024-04-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2272636 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA --- Comment #5 from

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Steve Cossette
Sorry, that's pretty much how things are right now, is that what you were trying to demonstrate? I'm not really following. Personally, if we were to promote both KDE and Gnome on the website, I'd make it dead simple. I really suck at making graphics so I'll try to put it in text: I imagine a

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2024-04-02 at 21:15 -0400, Steve Cossette wrote: > I get your point, Kevin. I would argue though that, if a user is looking to > use Linux, they probably got a decent idea as to what DE they want to use. > There are SO MANY LINUX DISTROS! Making a choice between two is > honestly

[Bug 2270834] perl-Pod-Weaver-4.020 is available

2024-04-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2270834 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ON_QA |CLOSED Resolution|---

[Bug 2269439] perl-HTML-Parser-3.82 is available

2024-04-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2269439 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|perl-HTML-Parser-3.82-1.fc4 |perl-HTML-Parser-3.82-1.fc4

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Steve Cossette
I get your point, Kevin. I would argue though that, if a user is looking to use Linux, they probably got a decent idea as to what DE they want to use. There are SO MANY LINUX DISTROS! Making a choice between two is honestly probably not that jarring imo. On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:49 PM Kevin

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Ok, thats obvously somewhat tounge in cheek, but if we promote multiple > things, we need some way to describe them to uses who might not know the > history of things and do it in a quick enough way that they won't decide > it's all confusing and go do something else. It is

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Kilian Hanich via devel
Am 03.04.24 um 01:48 schrieb Kevin Fenzi: On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 04:06:45PM -0400, Steve Cossette wrote: Alright, so a substantial amount of information changed since the original submission of the change proposal. We aren't necessarily thinking of demoting Gnome. The overall spirit of the CP

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 04:06:45PM -0400, Steve Cossette wrote: > Alright, so a substantial amount of information changed since the original > submission of the change proposal. We aren't necessarily thinking of > demoting Gnome. The overall spirit of the CP is that we think KDE, and to > some

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 04:38:25PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 3:55 PM Steve Cossette wrote: > > > > I personally would very much agree with enforcing the use of 2fa on the > > Fedora Account System. Maybe take that opportunity to make it a bit more > > user

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2024-03-30 11:52, Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote: We have an upstream-adjusted version of this patch, see https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2641 I'm OK to bring the updated version of this script to Fedora as soon as it is finalized. I proposed

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Steve Cossette wrote: > We essentially just want more visibility on the website, if that makes > sense. Back when I was still a KDE SIG member, whenever we brought that up with the Websites Team, they would just point us to the Board (what is now the Council), and the Board would point us back

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Adam Williamson wrote: > Change proposals can be, and frequently are, rejected. If you look at the statistics, they very rarely are. A lot of bad changes with lots of criticism on the mailing list were waved through by FESCo. But if they dare touching a Red Hat holy cow such as the dogma of

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Yes, in this case the attacker had set the serial number to 30, but > the latest upstream serial number was 3. autoreconf won't replace the > file in this case unless it is deleted. There really should be an > "always replace if you can" option in autoreconf. Is that

Re: What we mean when we talk about "supply chains" [was Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder]

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > And, more importantly, the industry has agreed > to use the term supply chain. Is the term > perhaps overloaded, or perhaps too > ill-defined/imprecise? Sure. But if one wants > to use a different term one would need to work > across the industry to change the term, and

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2024-04-03 at 00:15 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > It occurs to me - maybe you don't agree, but this is how it looks to me > > - that, ironically, you and I usually argue the exact *opposite* side > > of this case, no? I argue in *favor* of

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Adam Williamson wrote: > It occurs to me - maybe you don't agree, but this is how it looks to me > - that, ironically, you and I usually argue the exact *opposite* side > of this case, no? I argue in *favor* of somewhat-arbitrary delays to > packages appearing in 'stable', and you argue *against*

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Sergio Belkin
> > it’s not a change. > -- > -- > Sergio Belkin > LPIC-2 Certified - http://www.lpi.org > It's not a change already decided I meant :) ! sorry for the noise -- -- Sergio Belkin LPIC-2 Certified - http://www.lpi.org -- ___ devel mailing list --

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Steve Cossette
Oooo I could go for some Yak meat! On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 5:32 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2024-04-02 at 17:37 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: > > > > I am a happy KDE user, since the good old days of version 1.0. I > celebrate > > this decision! My recognition goes to the enormous and

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Sergio Belkin
El mar, 2 abr 2024 a las 18:32, Adam Williamson () escribió: > On Tue, 2024-04-02 at 17:37 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: > > > > I am a happy KDE user, since the good old days of version 1.0. I > celebrate > > this decision! My recognition goes to the enormous and sustained work of > > the entire

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2024-04-02 at 17:37 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: > > I am a happy KDE user, since the good old days of version 1.0. I celebrate > this decision! My recognition goes to the enormous and sustained work of > the entire KDE community. > Cheers, > Sergiio To be clear, there is no 'decision'.

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Gordon Messmer wrote: > Purely as trivia, and as I haven't seen it discussed elsewhere, the > malware steals a different set of symbols on Fedora, where > RSA_public_decrypt doesn't seem to appear in the GOT at all. This proves again that this is a very targeted attack that carefully analyzed

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 3:55 PM Steve Cossette wrote: > > I personally would very much agree with enforcing the use of 2fa on the > Fedora Account System. Maybe take that opportunity to make it a bit more user > friendly? (Such as the fkinit prompt requiring the 2fa code being added at > the

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Sergio Belkin
El mar, 2 abr 2024 a las 6:40, Aoife Moloney () escribió: > Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraPlasmaWorkstation > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This

Re: Self Introduction: Matthew Kosarek

2024-04-02 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 3:44 PM Matthew Kosarek via devel wrote: > > Hello all, > > My name is Matthew (Matt) Kosarek and I am a developer on the Mir team at > Canonical. I am currently developing a tiling window manager based on Mir > called miracle-wm (https://github.com/mattkae/miracle-wm).

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Steve Cossette
Alright, so a substantial amount of information changed since the original submission of the change proposal. We aren't necessarily thinking of demoting Gnome. The overall spirit of the CP is that we think KDE, and to some extent the other spins too, need a bit more visibility on the website. At

Re: Self Introduction: Matthew Kosarek

2024-04-02 Thread Steve Cossette
Hello Matthew, and welcome to Fedora! You'll find alot of good people in here eager to help you. Feel free to also drop in on matrix for a more real-time conversation! On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 3:44 PM Matthew Kosarek via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hello all, > > My name is

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Steven A. Falco
On 4/2/24 03:50 PM, Steve Cossette wrote: Well, we did submit this yesterday around 2:30-3:00PM EST, guessing it was a bit too late. But the proposal is 1000% serious. I'm glad to hear you say that, as I switched to KDE around the time of Gnome3 and never looked back. Steve --

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Steve Cossette
I personally would very much agree with enforcing the use of 2fa on the Fedora Account System. Maybe take that opportunity to make it a bit more user friendly? (Such as the fkinit prompt requiring the 2fa code being added at the end of your password -- to be clear I think the 2fa code should be

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Steve Cossette
Well, we did submit this yesterday around 2:30-3:00PM EST, guessing it was a bit too late. But the proposal is 1000% serious. On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 3:46 PM Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 19:44, Richard Hughes wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 10:40, Aoife Moloney wrote: >

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 19:44, Richard Hughes wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 10:40, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > Switch the default desktop experience for Workstation to KDE Plasma. > > The GNOME desktop is moved to a separate spin / edition, retaining > > release-blocking status. > > If this is an

Self Introduction: Matthew Kosarek

2024-04-02 Thread Matthew Kosarek via devel
Hello all, My name is Matthew (Matt) Kosarek and I am a developer on the Mir team at Canonical. I am currently developing a tiling window manager based on /Mir/ called *miracle-wm* (https://github.com/mattkae/miracle-wm). The goal is to have a tiling experience similar to /sway///i3/, but

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 06:44:02PM +, Richard Hughes wrote: > On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 10:40, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > Switch the default desktop experience for Workstation to KDE Plasma. > > The GNOME desktop is moved to a separate spin / edition, retaining > > release-blocking status. > > If

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2024-04-02 at 21:05 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Aoife Moloney wrote: > > Switch the default desktop experience for Workstation to KDE Plasma. > > The GNOME desktop is moved to a separate spin / edition, retaining > > release-blocking status. > > It is funny that the KDE SIG is

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2024-04-02 03:42, Lennart Poettering wrote: Also, I don't think we should get hung up too much on the libsystemd thing. I know people like to hit on systemd, I know, and one of the problems that results from having just a torrent of undeserved criticism is that it naturally predisposes

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Aoife Moloney wrote: > Switch the default desktop experience for Workstation to KDE Plasma. > The GNOME desktop is moved to a separate spin / edition, retaining > release-blocking status. It is funny that the KDE SIG is proposing that now. I have a sense of déjà- vu:

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Chris Adams wrote: > However, it's a good trigger to review Fedora's security approach in > general (like 2FA use). Using such an issue that made it through upstream 2FA and would also have made it through any 2FA enforcement in Fedora as an excuse to force 2FA on us is just pure nonsense.

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Matthew Miller wrote: > I sometimes see unit test failures. The developer ran the tests, but not > on S390. Why would I want a test failure on such an exotic architecture to fail my build? The only reason Fedora supports that architecture at all is pressure from IBM. Basically nobody uses it.

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Richard Hughes
On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 10:40, Aoife Moloney wrote: > Switch the default desktop experience for Workstation to KDE Plasma. > The GNOME desktop is moved to a separate spin / edition, retaining > release-blocking status. If this is an April fools joke -- it's a weird one, and a day too late.

Re: xz backdoor

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Lennart Poettering wrote: > It *literally* is just sending a text string "READY=1" in an AF_UNIX > datagram to a socket whose path is provided to you in the > $NOTIFY_SOCKET env var. I see so many ways one can get this wrong. E.g., using some abstraction for the socket write that can also write

[EPEL-devel] [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : EPEL Steering Committee

2024-04-02 Thread tdawson
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: EPEL Steering Committee on 2024-04-03 from 18:00:00 to 19:00:00 UTC At fedora-meet...@chat.fedoraproject.org The meeting will be about: https://chat.fedoraproject.org/#/room/#meeting:fedoraproject.org This is the weekly EPEL Steering

Re: xz backdoor

2024-04-02 Thread Petr Menšík
On 02. 04. 24 14:17, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Di, 02.04.24 14:04, Petr Menšík (pemen...@redhat.com) wrote: I am not convinced dlopen will it make secure in the end. I am not sure this is a good solution. dlopen makes those dependencies non-obvious from packaging side and non-visible from

Re: Golang bundled() Provides generator

2024-04-02 Thread Maxwell G
On Tue Apr 2, 2024 at 17:16 +0200, Dan Čermák wrote: > Hi Maxwell & Go SIG, Hi Dan, Thank you for reaching out! > we have recently started working on introducing a bundled() provides > generator for golang in openSUSE and found a very simple solution using > the output of `go version -m

Re: Reminder: F40 final freeze starts next week (2024-04-02)

2024-04-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2024-04-02 at 10:22 -0600, Jerry James wrote: > > - We retroactively change the time to stable of all updates that have > already been submitted. I might have an update that I think will go > stable in 1 more day, and suddenly it isn't going to go stable for 5 > more days. This is a

Re: Reminder: F40 final freeze starts next week (2024-04-02)

2024-04-02 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 12:18 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 6:08 PM Sandro wrote: > > > > On 26-03-2024 22:15, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 21:34 +0100, Sandro wrote: > > >> On 26-03-2024 16:25, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > >>> So, please take this time to

Re: F41 Change Proposal: OpenSSL Deprecate Engine (system-wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Dmitry Belyavskiy
Dear Gary, On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 5:39 PM Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 3:12 PM Dmitry Belyavskiy > wrote: > > > Third-party engines may be a problem but as we don't break ABI, it's not > a problem of the moment. > > The fact you are removing the headers means it is > a

Re: Reminder: F40 final freeze starts next week (2024-04-02)

2024-04-02 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 10:08 AM Sandro wrote: > We are one week down the road. I've submitted an update a week ago > shortly after Adam's reply was sent (March 26, 21:48 UTC). Final freeze > is now in effect and the update[1] has *not* made it to stable. It's > still in testing. > > Luckily, this

Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2024-04-02 Thread Maxwell G
Report started at 2024-04-02 16:05:20 UTC The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason:

Re: Reminder: F40 final freeze starts next week (2024-04-02)

2024-04-02 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 6:08 PM Sandro wrote: > > On 26-03-2024 22:15, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 21:34 +0100, Sandro wrote: > >> On 26-03-2024 16:25, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >>> So, please take this time to do any last minute testing and bugfixing > >>> and make sure any

Re: Reminder: F40 final freeze starts next week (2024-04-02)

2024-04-02 Thread Sandro
On 26-03-2024 22:15, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 21:34 +0100, Sandro wrote: On 26-03-2024 16:25, Kevin Fenzi wrote: So, please take this time to do any last minute testing and bugfixing and make sure any packages you expect to be in the final f40 base repositories are pushed

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Kilian Hanich via devel: > Am 02.04.24 um 10:22 schrieb Florian Weimer: >>> - Can some wrappers be developed to make it both easier and safer? >> GCC already provides function multi-versioning/target clones as a >> higher-level interface. > > > Also, upstreams should by default properly mark

Re: Fedora Linux 40 Final Freeze

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 02:24:51PM +0200, Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 12:39 PM Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > sting->stable marked updates be still included in > > stable without having to go through the exception/blocker process? > > > > I was told there would be one more

Re: F41 Change Proposal: OpenSSL Deprecate Engine (system-wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 3:12 PM Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote: > Third-party engines may be a problem but as we don't break ABI, it's not a > problem of the moment. The fact you are removing the headers means it is a problem for 3rd party engines who build from source (and everyone should at least

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sat, 2024-03-30 at 15:23 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 07:25:50AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Michael Catanzaro said: > > > I agree that running autoreconf on our packages makes sense to start > > > doing. Still, to avoid this

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 12:45:18AM -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 2024-04-01 23:59, Gordon Messmer wrote: > >Now gdb can print the GOT with the paths providing the memory > >section containing a function.  For example, on a Debian 12 system > >with liblzma 5.6: > > > Purely as trivia, and as

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 05:09:18PM +0200, Kilian Hanich via devel wrote: > Am 02.04.24 um 10:22 schrieb Florian Weimer: > >> - Can some wrappers be developed to make it both easier and safer? > >GCC already provides function multi-versioning/target clones as a > >higher-level interface. > > >

Re: Golang bundled() Provides generator

2024-04-02 Thread Dan Čermák
Hi Maxwell & Go SIG, we have recently started working on introducing a bundled() provides generator for golang in openSUSE and found a very simple solution using the output of `go version -m /path/to/binary` [1] The solution is of course only that simple, because we build more or less all go

Re: F41 Change Proposal: OpenSSL Deprecate Engine (system-wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Dmitry Belyavskiy
Dear Luca On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 4:32 PM Luca Boccassi wrote: > > Hi Zbigniew! > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 1:15 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < > > zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl wrote: > > > > > > Thanks. In the period between the proposal was written and published the > > TPM2 provider has landed in

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Kilian Hanich via devel
Am 02.04.24 um 10:22 schrieb Florian Weimer: - Can some wrappers be developed to make it both easier and safer? GCC already provides function multi-versioning/target clones as a higher-level interface. Also, upstreams should by default properly mark their stuffs with restrictive

Re: F41 Change Proposal: OpenSSL Deprecate Engine (system-wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Luca Boccassi
> Hi Zbigniew! > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 1:15 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < > zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl wrote: > > > Thanks. In the period between the proposal was written and published the > TPM2 provider has landed in Fedora. > PKCS#11 provider is already here for a while. The fact that such

[Bug 2266094] perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.209 is available

2024-04-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2266094 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.20 |perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.20

[Bug 2265610] perl-Log-ger-0.042 is available

2024-04-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2265610 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|perl-Log-ger-0.042-1.fc41 |perl-Log-ger-0.042-1.fc41

[Bug 2269439] perl-HTML-Parser-3.82 is available

2024-04-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2269439 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|perl-HTML-Parser-3.82-1.fc4 |perl-HTML-Parser-3.82-1.fc4

Re: F41 Change Proposal: OpenSSL Deprecate Engine (system-wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Dmitry Belyavskiy
Hi Zbigniew! On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 1:15 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > == Summary == > > We disable building the packages using ENGINE API in OpenSSL without > > breaking ABI. > > "Without breaking

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 30. 03. 24 v 18:26 Artem S. Tashkinov via devel napsal(a): Hi, It was sheer luck that the exploit was discovered and major distros haven't yet included it in their stable releases. It's quite possible and plausible it could have reached RHEL, Debian, Ubuntu, SLES and other distros and

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 30. 03. 24 v 22:14 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 08:00:29PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: I think there's some useful points here, but this would need to be qualified and/or made more flexible to be applied. For

Re: xz backdoor

2024-04-02 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 08:18, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Di, 02.04.24 14:04, Petr Menšík (pemen...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > Could be even smaller library libsystemd-notify linked from libsystemd, > > which would allow end applications to explicitly declare they need more > > limited set of

Fedora 40 compose report: 20240402.n.0 changes

2024-04-02 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-40-20240401.n.0 NEW: Fedora-40-20240402.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 3 Added packages: 1 Dropped packages:3 Upgraded packages: 343 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 41.93 MiB Size of dropped packages:16.87 MiB

Re: Fedora Linux 40 Final Freeze

2024-04-02 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 12:39 PM Jakub Jelinek wrote: > sting->stable marked updates be still included in > stable without having to go through the exception/blocker process? > I was told there would be one more stable push at the releng channel on matrix. -- Best regards / S pozdravem,

[Bug 2272636] perl-SDL-2.548-22.fc41 FTBFS with SDL2-2.30.1: t/core_events.t fails: Can't use an undefined value as a subroutine reference during global destruction

2024-04-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2272636 --- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System --- FEDORA-2024-176c95f1c4 (perl-SDL-2.548-23.fc40) has been submitted as an update to Fedora 40. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2024-176c95f1c4 -- You are receiving this mail

Re: xz backdoor

2024-04-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 02.04.24 14:04, Petr Menšík (pemen...@redhat.com) wrote: > I am not convinced dlopen will it make secure in the end. I am not sure this > is a good solution. dlopen makes those dependencies non-obvious from > packaging side and non-visible from ldd or similar checking programs. > > I think

[Bug 2272636] perl-SDL-2.548-22.fc41 FTBFS with SDL2-2.30.1: t/core_events.t fails: Can't use an undefined value as a subroutine reference during global destruction

2024-04-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2272636 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version||perl-SDL-2.548-23.fc41

Re: xz backdoor

2024-04-02 Thread Petr Menšík
I am not convinced dlopen will it make secure in the end. I am not sure this is a good solution. dlopen makes those dependencies non-obvious from packaging side and non-visible from ldd or similar checking programs. I think it should be considered to offer more than one dynamic library. For

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Lennart Poettering: > On Sa, 30.03.24 18:56, Fedora Development ML (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) > wrote: > >> > In systemd git main, libsystemd is only linked to libc, libcap, >> > and libgcrypt + libgpg-error. A pull request to convert that that last >> > pair to dlopen is under review. >>

[Bug 2272636] perl-SDL-2.548-22.fc41 FTBFS with SDL2-2.30.1: t/core_events.t fails: Can't use an undefined value as a subroutine reference during global destruction

2024-04-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2272636 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|hdego...@redhat.com |ppi...@redhat.com Status|NEW

[Bug 2272636] perl-SDL-2.548-22.fc41 FTBFS with SDL2-2.30.1: t/core_events.t fails: Can't use an undefined value as a subroutine reference during global destruction

2024-04-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2272636 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Link ID||Github |

Re: F41 Change Proposal: OpenSSL Deprecate Engine (system-wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > == Summary == > We disable building the packages using ENGINE API in OpenSSL without > breaking ABI. "Without breaking ABI" is a improvement. Everything else — not so much. > == Detailed Description == > We are going to deprecate

[Bug 2272636] perl-SDL-2.548-22.fc41 FTBFS with SDL2-2.30.1: t/core_events.t fails: Can't use an undefined value as a subroutine reference during global destruction

2024-04-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2272636 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|perl-SDL-2.548-22.fc41 |perl-SDL-2.548-22.fc41

[Bug 2272636] perl-SDL-2.548-22.fc41 FTBFS: t/core_events.t fails

2024-04-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2272636 --- Comment #1 from Petr Pisar --- Verbose output of the test: $ prove -b -v t/core_events.t t/core_events.t .. ok 1 - SDL::Events->can(...) ok 2 - SDL::Event->can(...) [...] ok 692 - [joystick_event_state] return SDL_IGNORE correctly ok 693

[Bug 2272636] New: perl-SDL-2.548-22.fc41 FTBFS: t/core_events.t fails

2024-04-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2272636 Bug ID: 2272636 Summary: perl-SDL-2.548-22.fc41 FTBFS: t/core_events.t fails Product: Fedora Version: rawhide URL: https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/package/perl-SDL Status:

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sa, 30.03.24 13:18, Gordon Messmer (gordon.mess...@gmail.com) wrote: > On 2024-03-30 02:37, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > (3) We should have a "security path", like "critical path". > > > > sshd is linked to a lot of libraries: > > > I really don't want to start a systemd thread, but... the

Re: Fedora Linux 40 Final Freeze

2024-04-02 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 12:33:04PM +0530, Samyak Jain wrote: > Today, 2024-04-02, is an important day on the Fedora Linux 40 schedule > [1], with significant cut-offs. > > Today we have the Final Freeze [2] which starts at 14:00 UTC. This means > that only packages that fix accepted blocker or

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sa, 30.03.24 18:56, Fedora Development ML (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) wrote: > > In systemd git main, libsystemd is only linked to libc, libcap, > > and libgcrypt + libgpg-error. A pull request to convert that that last > > pair to dlopen is under review. > > That helps somewhat (it would

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Gordon Messmer: > Why doesn't dlopen() solve the problem? As best I understand it, > liblzma was able to steal one (or more) of the symbols from > libcrypto.so.3 because it ran constructors at a point in time when the > GOT was still writable. After loading shared objects is complete, > that

F41 Change Proposal: OpenSSL Deprecate Engine (system-wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Aoife Moloney
Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OpensslDeprecateEngine This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux. This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be

F41 Change Proposal: OpenSSL Deprecate Engine (system-wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Aoife Moloney
Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OpensslDeprecateEngine This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux. This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be

F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-02 Thread Aoife Moloney
Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraPlasmaWorkstation This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering

Fedora Linux 40 Final Freeze

2024-04-02 Thread Samyak Jain
Hi all, Today, 2024-04-02, is an important day on the Fedora Linux 40 schedule [1], with significant cut-offs. Today we have the Final Freeze [2] which starts at 14:00 UTC. This means that only packages that fix accepted blocker or freeze exception bugs [3][4][5] will be marked as 'stable' and

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 02:00:52AM -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 2024-03-30 09:12, Neal Gompa wrote: > > Note that dlopen() doesn't fix the problem of the giant libsystemd in > > the first place. It just obfuscates the true dependency graph of > > libsystemd. > > > This isn't my area of

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 10:59:10AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Richard W. M. Jones: > > In the xz case this wouldn't have been enough, it turns out we would > > also have to delete m4/build-to-host.m4, which then autoreconf > > regenerates. I don't fully understand why that is. > > I would

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 4:59 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Richard W. M. Jones: > > > I'm not pretending these will solve everything, but they should make > > attacks a little harder in future. > > > > > > (1) We should routinely delete autoconf-generated cruft from upstream > > projects and

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2024-03-30 09:12, Neal Gompa wrote: Note that dlopen() doesn't fix the problem of the giant libsystemd in the first place. It just obfuscates the true dependency graph of libsystemd. This isn't my area of expertise, but I am curious: Why doesn't dlopen() solve the problem?  As best I

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Richard W. M. Jones: > I'm not pretending these will solve everything, but they should make > attacks a little harder in future. > > > (1) We should routinely delete autoconf-generated cruft from upstream > projects and regenerate it in %prep. It is easier to study the real > source rather

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