Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-09 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 12/09/2014 08:50 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 9 December 2014 at 13:39, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: So your challenge is to find an alternative default that supports it. I'd go even further. I don't think the people writing

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-09 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 12/09/2014 10:11 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: The defaults for the various products are "packaged" by zones. You just need to change the firewalld zone to get whatever is the default on the server side. Ok, so it's another item on my list of

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-09 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 12/09/2014 11:46 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: I don't think it makes much sense for people to stamp their feet saying "BUT I LIKED THE OLD WAY OF DOING THINGS" when the people leading the workstation product have identified that the old way of doing things

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-09 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 12/09/2014 01:45 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: - Original Message - Richard Hughes wrote: So do I! I'm a developer, which spin do I use so that the firewall doesn't get in my way? We can't develop a *product* based around what you

Re: Graphics driver support in F21+

2013-08-27 Thread Brian Wheeler
Out of curiosity, is the cirrus driver used in qemu/kvm or does it use something else? On 08/27/2013 10:46 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: For F21, I plan to orphan the following X video drivers: xorg-x11-drv-apm xorg-x11-drv-cirrus xorg-x11-drv-geode xorg-x11-drv-glint xorg-x11-drv-i128

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wheeler
Repeating that fast boot times matter is just as bogus as saying they don't. The 2 or 3 seconds that's being talked about here has no meaningful impact on anything other than embedded users and they're probably not using grub anyway. Fedora 18 screwed my laptop pretty thoroughly since the

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 03/12/2013 02:03 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 12.03.2013 17:32, schrieb Chris Murphy: On Mar 12, 2013, at 6:02 AM, Jiří Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com wrote: New kernels bring a lot of regressions and we don't have

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wheeler
Fedora isn't windows. Its not OSX. It should never be those things and I'm grateful for it. The boot menu doesn't hurt anything. It has benefits. What are the benefits of removing the boot menu? * Saving upwards of 5 seconds per day! My god, think of the productivity boost! * Its

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 03/12/2013 02:35 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 02:31:36PM -0400, Brian Wheeler wrote: Fedora isn't windows. Its not OSX. It should never be those things and I'm grateful for it. We shouldn't ignore developments done in other camps. NIH is bad. Of course

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-07-13 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 07/13/2012 10:14 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: On 07/13/2012 09:14 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 07/12/2012 09:54 PM, Harald Hoyer wrote: Again.. tmpfs is restricted to half the RAM size by default. You can't store 8-9GB of trash.. only 2GB, which might land on swap over time. As I have

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-20 Thread Brian Wheeler
So, how does this scenario work? * The machine has 4G of RAM, * 50% RAM is being used by actual software (firefox, eclipse, mail client, etc), so the other 50% is pagecache * The machine has 4G of swap, none of which is active. So then a user drops a 8.5G DVD image into /tmp. On a

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-20 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 06/20/2012 01:41 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: What happens when I have 2 users who are both downloading dvd iso sized images into /tmp as well as other things going on. Remind me... where does firefox by default cache in progress downloads for the Open in facility. Isn't it down in tmp?

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-20 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 06/20/2012 01:55 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Brian Wheeler bdwhe...@indiana.edu said: So, how does this scenario work? * The machine has 4G of RAM, * 50% RAM is being used by actual software (firefox, eclipse, mail client, etc), so the other 50% is pagecache * The machine

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-20 Thread Brian Wheeler
is doing, I had the impression it was leaving this as a default. I don't know if this is a good thing or not. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Brian Wheeler bdwhe...@indiana.edu wrote: I don't think its just a matter of quantity of I/O but _when_ the I/O happens. Instead of the pagecache getting

Re: Intent to retire: nss_ldap

2012-06-08 Thread Brian Wheeler
on our RHEL6 servers I'm still using nss_ldap for the hosts database: we have a private network and I don't want to copy portions of /etc/hosts around to our servers and putting them into DNS isn't really an option for us. I couldn't find an easy way to look up the data in ldap for that data

Re: Intent to retire: nss_ldap

2012-06-08 Thread Brian Wheeler
I'll investigate it when we get to another system change but since its working on the current servers I'm not touching it :) By the time we do an OS refresh I'll probably try moving to IPA Brian On 06/08/2012 10:14 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 09:06 -0400, Brian

Re: Action required: Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-01 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 06/01/2012 08:12 AM, Alexey I. Froloff wrote: my biggest problem was that tmpfs by default allocates half of physical RAM for partition. So I just allocated big enough swap and added a line to /etc/fstab with appropriate size= option. And how is a random user supposed to know this? So if

Re: Action required: Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-01 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 06/01/2012 10:23 AM, Alexey I. Froloff wrote: On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 09:27:16AM -0400, Brian Wheeler wrote: my biggest problem was that tmpfs by default allocates half of physical RAM for partition. So I just allocated big enough swap and added a line to /etc/fstab with appropriate size

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-01 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 06/01/2012 11:35 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: Because that disk activity only happens when the kernel decides that it wants the memory for something else it doesn't happen at all in a great many cases especially for short lived files. ... The feature may be adopted/promoted on the basis of

Re: Action required: Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-01 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 06/01/2012 11:52 AM, Alexey I. Froloff wrote: On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:31:21AM -0400, Brian Wheeler wrote: Well, since I'm probably going to turn it off, can someone give me a good reason why it should be turned _on_ by default? For me, the Benefit to Fedora bullets are not compelling

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-01 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 06/01/2012 12:21 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: I think most of the noise in this flame thread is due to a misunderstanding how modern memory management works and the assumption that having an explicit size limit on /tmp was a bad thing, even though it actually is a good thing... In fact, we

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-05-31 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 05/31/2012 08:59 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 31.05.12 08:51, Matthew Miller (mat...@mattdm.org) wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:55:28PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Now /var/tmp should be more persistent which we don't need, Correct, using /var/tmp is wrong and a mistake.

Re: /tmp on tmpfs

2012-04-06 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 04/06/2012 02:50 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: What happens to /tmp on tmpfs when real memory and swap are completely consumed? I assume it would get an -ENOSPC...but with RAM and swap being full I don't expect that the end user would ever see the error before the machine bogged down to the

Re: /tmp on tmpfs

2012-04-03 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 04/03/2012 10:31 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: /tmp is a like a litter box. From a user perspective, I'm happy to have it emptied regularly, because clearly the cats don't clean up their own doodles. That one of the cats might think he's deposited something valuable that he'll come back for

Re: /tmp on tmpfs

2012-04-02 Thread Brian Wheeler
On 04/02/2012 07:44 PM, Dave Jones wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 06:34:59PM -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 08:32:56PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: * #834 F18 Feature: /tmp on tmpfs - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs (mitr, 17:40:06)

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Brian Wheeler
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 13:05 -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: It all looks very pretty though. Maybe someone can answer this... All of the fade and animation effects that a lot of the toolkits/desktops are using these days seem like they're making the responsiveness substantially worse. I'm not

Re: conclusion: F15 / systemd / user-experience

2011-06-13 Thread Brian Wheeler
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 20:36 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: first sorry for some bad words from mine, but this is how i feel in a situation not knowing how to act since upgraded short ago to F14 in the hope get my energy refreshed staying there for some months and now realizing i will newer get

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-12 Thread Brian Wheeler
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 13:19 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Jeff Garzik jgar...@pobox.com said: Data centers have /plenty/ of ancient video solutions out there, and basic video support is needed. How many data centers run X on servers? I know I don't; they all boot runlevel

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-09 Thread Brian Wheeler
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 19:12 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: On 11/09/2010 06:12 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Adam Jacksona...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 04:05 -0500, Jon Masters wrote: +1 for bringing these points up. No offense to krh

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-09 Thread Brian Wheeler
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 13:47 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 12:12 -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: Remoting a wayland application is _trivial_. Either to an X or to a wayland view system. It's hard to make wayland remoting less flexible than X over the network, since

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-09 Thread Brian Wheeler
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 14:05 -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote: On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 01:44:19PM -0500, Brian Wheeler wrote: And where does that sit in the architecture? Looking over the architecture page (2nd figure) it looks like the only way to get the kind of network transparency that X

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-09 Thread Brian Wheeler
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 14:19 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 14:01 -0500, Brian Wheeler wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 13:47 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: And I'm saying you can get the network remoting effect you like in X, in Wayland. It's not built into the local Wayland

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-09 Thread Brian Wheeler
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 14:24 -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote: On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 02:14:32PM -0500, Brian Wheeler wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 14:05 -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote: On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 01:44:19PM -0500, Brian Wheeler wrote: And where does that sit in the architecture

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Brian Wheeler
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 10:00 +0300, Slava Zanko wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank Murphy wrote: Bookmark this: http://ss64.com/bash/ I know about :) This idea just try for standartization of command names... I know about posix and LSB, but these standards don't