Re: network service removed in Fedora 40 without a Change proposal(?)

2024-04-13 Thread Chris Adams
> "Gone in 40" _does_ technically fit into the letter of "drop by 41"... but > maybe not the spirit? Dropping the NM ifcfg plugin is very different from dropping the actual old network scripts. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel ma

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-12 Thread Chris Adams
de on the first device), so that's hardly a "ludicrous" method. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs

Re: Switching XZ for ZSTD?

2024-04-04 Thread Chris Adams
(to go along with how make_build already uses %{?_smp_mflags}). In the case of ceph, it's overriding _source_payload as well, which seems unwanted (feels like somebody just grepped and copied). -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list --

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-01 Thread Chris Adams
un or wholesale changes to configuration seem to not be all that useful. However, it's a good trigger to review Fedora's security approach in general (like 2FA use). -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Chris Adams
be run when available in the Fedora environment. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/p

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Chris Adams
should match. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guid

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Chris Adams
ewed it and caught an attack (after all, in this case, part of it was committed to git and at least one other maintainer didn't notice anything odd). -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-29 Thread Chris Adams
linked into a whole lot of key programs. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-29 Thread Chris Adams
n using release tarballs for projects with public git that also supports tarball generation would be to have both sources and compare. Signed sources don't help with the signer is the problem. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorapr

Re: dmesg restricted to root in Rawhide

2024-03-04 Thread Chris Murphy
in the wheel group as is everyone else by default installing Fedora. A vast majority of Fedora users have this peculiar UX where `journalctl -k` not not require `sudo` but `dmesg` does require it. I think that's annoying and weird. -- Chris Murphy --

Re: dmesg restricted to root in Rawhide

2024-02-27 Thread Chris Adams
curity can give us some more details of precisely > what exploits will be mitigated, in the change proposal. It's not just Rawhide, it was changed in F39 mid-stream with the 6.7 kernel (and no notice/announcement). -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-02-23 Thread Chris Adams
curity. sudo _can_ be configured insecurely, but that's a function of who configures it and how, not the tool itself. You could also make su insecure with bad configuration. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsu

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F39 to F40

2024-02-21 Thread Chris Murphy
em: conflicting requests - package libva-intel-media-driver-24.1.3-1.fc40.i686 from fedora conflicts with intel-media-driver provided by intel-media-driver-24.1.3-1.fc40.x86_64 from rpmfusion-nonfree - package libva-intel-media-driver-24.1.3-1.fc40.x86_64 from fedora conflicts with intel-m

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F39 to F40

2024-02-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Feb 21, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2024, at 12:11 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: >> >> >> Do you want to make Fedora 40 better? Please spend 1 minute of your time and >> try to run: >> >> # Run this only if

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F39 to F40

2024-02-21 Thread Chris Murphy
l be enabled again > # This is last time we should do that :) > > sudo dnf module reset '*' > Uhh haha :) $ sudo dnf module reset '*' Last metadata expiration check: 0:03:30 ago on Wed 21 Feb 2024 06:41:04 PM MST. Unable to resolve argument * Error: Problems in request: missing groups o

Re: cloud-init switching to udhcpc

2024-02-06 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Stephen Gallagher said: > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:30 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Major Hayden said: > > > Stephen Gallagher pointed out that ELN doesn't have busybox, but it does > > > have dhcpcd, and that should work fin

Re: cloud-init switching to udhcpc

2024-02-06 Thread Chris Adams
cpcd support. ISC dhcpd is also EOL upstream from October 5, 2022, so making a new dependency on it is probably not a good idea. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Figure out what killed an app (rhbz#2253099)

2024-01-31 Thread Chris Murphy
eeds, up to the point that the user wants an interactive desktop - and then the kernel needs to (in effect) preempt the resource hungry processes in favor of user-desktop interactivity. Resource control can do this but we don't have everything wired up yet, more work is need

Re: Staled PRs at https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/

2024-01-25 Thread Chris Kelley
> > Is there a way to merge PR lists from multiple packages into a single > backlog? > I don't know about Pagure, but you can make bespoke packager dashboards to show whatever combination of packages/packagers/groups you like :-) https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/custom Ch

Re: FAS issue (was Re: Another mass rebuild blocker: glibc qsort regression)

2024-01-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, kevin said: > On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 09:04:53AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said: > > > The authentication issue being this one: > > > > > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11733 &g

Re: Lost KDC for FEDORAPROJECT.ORG realm

2024-01-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Steve Dickson said: > I had to change my /etc/krb5.conf do to > some realm changes... and now when I > to a kinit to FEDORAPROJECT.ORG it > hangs for a while then errors with There is currently a FAS outage: https://status.fedoraproject.org/ --

FAS issue (was Re: Another mass rebuild blocker: glibc qsort regression)

2024-01-23 Thread Chris Adams
or later, we all do something that breaks in wildly unexpected ways), but so we can all learn from the mistake. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 Architecture (System-Wide)

2023-12-29 Thread Chris Adams
ld never > be used with a different CPU, the initial choice would be locked in. It's not like we haven't had this before. Yes, it was annoying, but it wasn't THAT big of an issue. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 Architecture (System-Wide)

2023-12-29 Thread Chris Adams
g '/{memb}/' were expanded to '/memberX/' where X was the numeric node ID (needed for lots of config because the cluster system used a "single root" filesystem, where all members had access to the shared storage and mounted the same volume as /

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 Architecture (System-Wide)

2023-12-28 Thread Chris Adams
ly set PATH to "known" values (for good and bad reasons) to be able to depend on extending it. Heck, it took a long time to get sudo just to include /usr/local/{bin,sbin}. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.f

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Enable IPv4 Address Conflict Detection (Self-Contained)

2023-12-27 Thread Chris Adams
4.may-fail=no" (or for IPv6 addresses, > "ipv6.may-fail=no") in the connection profile. That is required when > using "auto" methods, in order to avoid the situation where the > connection succeeds after the "other"

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Enable IPv4 Address Conflict Detection (Self-Contained)

2023-12-21 Thread Chris Adams
riggered, right? Any services that try to bind to configured IPs or the like need to still work. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorapro

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Enable IPv4 Address Conflict Detection (Self-Contained)

2023-12-20 Thread Chris Adams
nge aims at enabling ACD by default in Fedora 40, by setting > the default value to 3000ms. 3 seconds seems kind of high (IIRC network-scripts used 1 second). -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Peter Boy said: > I would like to go even further and also separate distribution default code > and locally installed code in the /usr tree. OpenSuse has developed a good > proposal for this some time ago. More separation than /usr vs. /usr/local? -- Ch

Package some perl modules (to really get one)

2023-12-08 Thread Chris Adams
-Net-Async-SOCKS-0.003-1.fc39 perl-Net-Async-WebSocket-0.13-1.fc39 perl-Net-DNS-Paranoid-0.08-1.fc39 perl-Object-Import-1.005-1.fc39 perl-Protocol-SOCKS-0.003-1.fc39 perl-Test-HTTP-LocalServer-0.75-1.fc39 perl-WWW-Mechanize-Chrome-0.72-1.fc39 -- Chris Adams

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase Two (System-Wide)

2023-12-05 Thread Chris Adams
kernel command-line options? -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct

troff noise when grepping man page?

2023-11-29 Thread Chris Murphy
, and what component to file a bug against? -- Chris Murphy -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project

Unannounced soname bump in F39 updates-testing kernel-tools-libs

2023-11-26 Thread Chris Adams
kernel-tools-libs changed libcpupower.so.0 to libcpupower.so.1 in 6.6.2-200.fc39, which breaks mate-applets and gnome-applets. -- Chris Adams -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le

Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-21 Thread Chris Adams
g. /dev/rtc) _not_ existing. That's unfortunate, that would make it easy. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fe

Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-20 Thread Chris Adams
ice depend on /dev/rtc not existing?), as other RPi-targeted distros do. This isn't RPi-specific, a number of the small boards have no RTC. I do typically add an RTC to my Pis, but not always (for various reasons). -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing l

kdump enabled in F39

2023-10-10 Thread Chris Murphy
, -- Chris Murphy ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https

Re: The new Change discussion process is painful

2023-09-13 Thread Chris Adams
to keep re-litigating decisions that some people don't agree with? -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.o

Re: Adding Passim as a Fedora 40 feature?

2023-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
ncrypt is not an option. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guid

Re: Adding Passim as a Fedora 40 feature?

2023-08-28 Thread Chris Adams
ing to client C with a man-in-the-middle attack and a different self-signed cert pretending to be client A. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of

Re: Dropping of sshd.socket unit

2023-08-17 Thread Chris Adams
whether services or sockets) were paused for a time (configurable even) and then returned to service. AFAIK this is a flaw in general in systemd's limits; if something exceeds them, it takes manual intervention to reset them. -- Chris Adams ___ devel maili

Re: Potential (security) issue for beginners/non-experts when release is End Of Life: Fedora doesn’t consider the behavior of beginners/non-experts sufficiently

2023-08-11 Thread Chris Kelley
rom a few months back discussing how a machine can work out for itself whether it is EOL (or about to be) but I can't seem to find it. Hopefully someone will be able to elaborate on that part of your discussion because that reminder would be helpful. Cheers, Chris On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 15:25, C

Re: dnf conflict in rawhide Docker container in GitHub Action

2023-08-10 Thread Chris Kelley
I see, thanks for the advice! I made that change and job's a good 'un. Cheers, Chris On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 at 20:38, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2023-08-10 at 19:07 +0000, Chris Kelley wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I have a GitHub Action ( > https://github.com/do

dnf conflict in rawhide Docker container in GitHub Action

2023-08-10 Thread Chris Kelley
about the current state of affairs/expectations around it working without issue. I am not sure to whom I should raise this issue, any suggestions welcome - thanks! Cheers, Chris ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: Dropping of sshd.socket unit

2023-08-04 Thread Chris Adams
h systemd socket activation in Fedora? In fact, xinetd was orphaned and retired, so the only way to have that kind of functionality in Fedora is through systemd, so systemd needs to support the same functionality. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list

Re: Removal of Modular repos broke upgrades to Fedora 39: What now?

2023-08-04 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Miro Hrončok said: > On 04. 08. 23 14:45, Chris Adams wrote: > >Could the repo config be removed by having fedora-repos Obsolete: > >fedora-repos-moduler <= 39? > > That has already been done. But when the upgrade happens, the repo > config is

Re: Removal of Modular repos broke upgrades to Fedora 39: What now?

2023-08-04 Thread Chris Adams
ar installed, they will hit fatal > errors that will probably look like this: Could the repo config be removed by having fedora-repos Obsolete: fedora-repos-moduler <= 39? -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: Dropping of sshd.socket unit

2023-08-04 Thread Chris Adams
isn't a high priority though, because very few things support inetd-type modes anymore. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Co

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Chris Adams
Edge updates into LVFS? :) -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Chris Adams
less on desktops > since no motherboard vendors support it. It also works on Dell and I think HP desktops... which represent a significant chunk of the desktop PC market. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-20 Thread Chris Murphy
ime, whatever parent directory is used for the chroots could be swapped out with a subvolume for a short term work around. It doesn't sound like the problem happens very quickly. -- Chris Murphy ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: Should Fedora switch to full kernel preemption (CONFIG_PREEMPT=y)?

2023-07-20 Thread Chris Murphy
ervers would prefer the peak performance in general ? Maybe. But I'm not aware of any recent data one way or the other, certainly nothing Fedora specific. I don't expect full preemption will impact servers in any meaningful way. I just can't prove that. --

Re: Should Fedora switch to full kernel preemption (CONFIG_PREEMPT=y)?

2023-07-20 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 9:51 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, Jul 19 2023 at 06:50:24 PM -0400, Chris Murphy > wrote: >> If restricted to desktops, then we can only do it with kernel >> parameters. That probably means doing it in Anaconda kickstart, with >> a

Re: Should Fedora switch to full kernel preemption (CONFIG_PREEMPT=y)?

2023-07-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, May 24, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sat, May 20, 2023, at 4:43 PM, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > Therefore, I am >> asking if Fedora should use full kernel preemption by default. > > https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/228 > > The outstanding

Re: btrfs loses 32-bit application compatibility after a while

2023-07-14 Thread Chris Adams
most 32-bit applications compiled with LFS? It looks like anything with _GNU_SOURCE will get it, and IIRC that's not uncommon. I'm curious how many 32-bit binaries are looking at inode numbers and are NOT already LFS compatible. -- Chris Adams ___ devel

Re: RFC: Roadmap for DNF5 in Fedora 39 / invoking the Contingency Mechanism

2023-07-13 Thread Chris Adams
es of repos, so that missing is a problem for me. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/p

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-07-11 Thread Chris Adams
functionality planned, just bug/security fixes), CentOS Stream 9 will stop altogether. And Fedora ELN is aimed at CentOS Stream 10, which will eventually be used to make RHEL 10.0, so is not useful for replicating RHEL 9.x updates. -- Chris Adams ___

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Color Bash Prompt (System Wide)

2023-07-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Vít Ondruch said: > Shouldn't blue be the default for Fedora? Blue is probably a bad idea in a prompt, as the human eye doesn't perceive blue as strongly as green. The prompt isn't about art/style, it's purely about functionality. -- Chris Ad

Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

2023-07-01 Thread Chris Adams
or their office needs, enough that even where Windows is the predominant desktop OS, they don't get MS Office licenses either. They don't have to worry about local backups of important documents and spreadsheets, they get sharing with minimal effort, they can access th

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

2023-06-30 Thread Chris Adams
completely remove tzdata. We > appreciated this input and welcome additional feedback. It would be nice to know the reasons behind the recommendation. It seems trying to eliminate tzdata completely is going to require a significant amount of work and package churn, so why is this the better

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

2023-06-27 Thread Chris Murphy
it. But it is the first option on that page. https://alt.fedoraproject.org/ -- Chris Murphy ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

2023-06-26 Thread Chris Adams
s user adoption process, we are targeting Fedora > Workstation only. One thing not mentioned: what does this do to the install image size, especially for network booting? -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org T

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-24 Thread Chris Adams
t if I want to install it on a group of systems, managed with Ansible for example, no, that's not really enough (unless I have my own repo infrastructure). -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-24 Thread Chris Adams
gt; > https://kojihub.stream.centos.org/koji/taginfo?tagID=2 That's not available as a repo though AFAIK. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-24 Thread Chris Adams
n a timely manner? With 7 there's the fasttrack repo, but it doesn't actually seem to be used currently (and IIRC wasn't ever a "testing" type channel). -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-24 Thread Chris Adams
't get a corresponding update for quite a while. If Stream doesn't get security updates in a timely fashion, it is not at all suitable for production use. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to de

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

2023-06-23 Thread Chris Adams
n that this makes a difference. > > And in particular in the initrd, they are just not neeed. Just checking one thing, NFS uses getservbyname, so they are needed, and needed in the initrd for NFS root. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.f

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

2023-06-22 Thread Chris Adams
else providing that information. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Gu

Re: (lack) of koji stability

2023-06-16 Thread Chris Kelley
Mine just failed with this, which doesn't look great: File "", line 225, in makedirs OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device: '/var/tmp/koji/tasks/996/102220996/local/work' On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 at 15:31, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > Hi, > > I am facing (seemingly non-deterministic) FTBSes in

Re: Review requests: gtksourceviewmm3, mingw-qt6-qtlocation

2023-06-15 Thread Chris Kelley
Hi Sandro, I see someone took gtksourceviewmm3, can you swap for apache-logging-parent please? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2214834 Also unretirement; bump to latest upstream version. It is a parent POM for metadata so it is a simple one. Cheers, Chris On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 at 08

Re: SecureBoot certificates

2023-06-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, at 7:20 PM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Chris Murphy wrote: >> OK I tried this again and discover shim is signed twice. >> >> Issuer: C=US, ST=Washington, L=Redmond, O=Microsoft Corporation, >> CN=Microso

Re: SecureBoot certificates

2023-06-13 Thread Chris Murphy
atures, whether or not it's a problem. -- Chris Murphy ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/projec

Re: SecureBoot certificates

2023-06-13 Thread Chris Murphy
sha256sum hashes. So maybe there isn't actually a problem other than it's confusing that there are two signatures that also have different validity periods? I'm not sure what it means. -- Chris Murphy ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Requesting an addition to the install image

2023-06-08 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tomasz Torcz said: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 11:37:47AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > Where is the proper place to request something be added to the install > > image? I was going to file a BZ but wasn't sure of the proper > > component. > > &

Re: Requesting an addition to the install image

2023-06-08 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said: > On Thu, 2023-06-08 at 11:37 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > Where is the proper place to request something be added to the install > > image? I was going to file a BZ but wasn't sure of the proper > > component. > > &

Requesting an addition to the install image

2023-06-08 Thread Chris Adams
it, so I needed to do that before installing Fedora (or have to install, change, then reinstall). It would be much more convenient to be able to boot into rescue mode to do this. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Issue with Rawhide docker image?

2023-06-06 Thread Chris Adams
kerhub? -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines:

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-05 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said: > On Mon, 2023-06-05 at 13:05 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > It's layered, but from what I understand, an upper layer depends on a > > specific build of a lower layer. So using the up-thread example, if > > there's a security update to

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-05 Thread Chris Adams
the up-thread example, if there's a security update to zlib, the lower layer can rebuild to pick it up, but until the upper layer (like say LO) also rebuilds on top of the new lower layer, they'll be running on the old version. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailin

Re: Are we ready for ipv6-mostly networks?

2023-06-05 Thread Chris Adams
ou shouldn't) like Google's 8.8.8.8, the shortest addresses on the Internet are 2a09:: and 2a11:: (shorter than any possible v4 address). -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.f

Re: Managing multiple cross-dependent patches

2023-06-02 Thread Chris Adams
xes. Has there been an attempt to upstream some of this? -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide Change)

2023-05-31 Thread Chris Adams
th shim-unsigned-x64 and shim-unsigned-aarch64 SRPMs along side the shim SRPM with the signed binaries). -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproj

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide Change)

2023-05-31 Thread Chris Adams
onment). That's okay for EPEL builds, but I personally feel it would be more acceptable to build Fedora packages on Fedora. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedo

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide Change)

2023-05-31 Thread Chris Adams
es "latest live EPEL" mean - how is 8 the latest? I guess basically, can you further explain/clarify exactly which versions of what OS which JDKs will be built on, and when those versions will change. -- Chris Adams ___ de

Re: SecureBoot certificates

2023-05-30 Thread Chris Murphy
y implemented yet in Fedora. -- Chris Murphy ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-cond

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Florian Weimer said: > * Chris Adams: > > > Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said: > >> It seems as if the ISC dhcp package has been EOL'd upstream: > >> > >> https://www.isc.org/dhcp/ > > > > I'm a little surprised that

Re: Plans for dhclient / ISC dhcp?

2023-05-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said: > It seems as if the ISC dhcp package has been EOL'd upstream: > > https://www.isc.org/dhcp/ I'm a little surprised that nobody has forked this to continue maintaining it. dhcpd is widely used, and kea is far from a drop-in replacement.

Re: dnf5 and file level provides

2023-05-25 Thread Chris Adams
plicit Provides:), although that restriction is a SHOULD, not MUST. So unless that's changing, dnf5 needs to still be able to download the filelists repodata. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, May 24, 2023, at 2:55 PM, Peter Boy wrote: >> Am 24.05.2023 um 20:30 schrieb Chris Murphy : >> >> I'm pretty sure we no longer have a program manager? > > What’s that about? As I understand it, part of recent Red Hat layoffs. Red Hat and Fedora program/projec

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-24 Thread Chris Murphy
oss the visible spectrum, green will appear to be the brightest. Light purple is OK, Blue, indigo, or yellow tends to be harder to to detect complex shapes (like letters and numbers) but I'm not sure of the reason(s). -- Chris Murphy ___ devel mailing

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Chris Murphy
pretty sure we no longer have a program manager? So I'm kinda expecting a lot of things to just silently break. I don't know what the fallback plan is. -- Chris Murphy ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: Should Fedora switch to full kernel preemption (CONFIG_PREEMPT=y)?

2023-05-24 Thread Chris Murphy
ing the default across the board and not having a boot parameter. Anyway, it seems like it would be semi-straightforward to do it in Anaconda just for desktops using kickstart `bootloader --append=` command. https://pykickstart.readthedocs.io/en/latest/kickstart-docs.html#bootloader -- Chris Mur

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-23 Thread Chris Adams
are wrapped in a test like: if [ "$PS1" ]; then fi PS1 is not set on a non-interactive shell (no TTY assign), so don't do anything to manipulate it if it isn't already set to something. -- Chris Adams ___ devel

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-23 Thread Chris Adams
d set PROMPT_DIRTRIM=4. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-22 Thread Chris Adams
nal commands on every prompt though; when a system is slow or having problems, those can kill any chance at recovery or even troubleshooting. -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-22 Thread Chris Adams
ot;echo $?" (which succeeded). Just reading the variable does not reset it. $ false $ echo $? $? 1 1 -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-22 Thread Chris Adams
rompt basically ever IIRC (and I started with Red Hat with RHL 3.0.3, long before RHEL or Fedora). -- Chris Adams ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Co

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-05-10 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, May 10, 2023, at 7:36 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: > > > On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 5:34 PM Chris Murphy wrote: >> __ >> >> >> On Wed, May 10, 2023, at 2:24 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 12:02 P

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-05-10 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, May 10, 2023, at 7:11 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said: >> Read-only drivers, which are the only drivers under discussion here, aren't >> a per se problem because they can't modify the file system. So they have no >> complaints abou

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-05-10 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said: > Read-only drivers, which are the only drivers under discussion here, aren't a > per se problem because they can't modify the file system. So they have no > complaints about that. But those read-only drivers are incomplete and problematic, e

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-05-10 Thread Chris Murphy
; their take on your idea.] > > So, unless you want to go against what the people who actually > maintain the file systems expressly say please just get this idea out > of your head that porting Linux file systems into EFI fs drivers was a > good, supportable idea. > > And Neal

  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10   >