> "Gone in 40" _does_ technically fit into the letter of "drop by 41"... but
> maybe not the spirit?
Dropping the NM ifcfg plugin is very different from dropping the actual
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In the case of ceph, it's overriding _source_payload as well, which
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with public git that also supports tarball generation would be to have
both sources and compare. Signed sources don't help with the signer is
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majority of Fedora users have this peculiar UX where `journalctl -k` not not
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It's not just Rawhide, it was changed in F39 mid-stream with the 6.7
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On Wed, Feb 21, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2024, at 12:11 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>>
>>
>> Do you want to make Fedora 40 better? Please spend 1 minute of your time and
>> try to run:
>>
>> # Run this only if
l be enabled again
> # This is last time we should do that :)
>
> sudo dnf module reset '*'
>
Uhh haha :)
$ sudo dnf module reset '*'
Last metadata expiration check: 0:03:30 ago on Wed 21 Feb 2024 06:41:04 PM MST.
Unable to resolve argument *
Error: Problems in request:
missing groups o
Once upon a time, Stephen Gallagher said:
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:30 PM Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Major Hayden said:
> > > Stephen Gallagher pointed out that ELN doesn't have busybox, but it does
> > > have dhcpcd, and that should work fin
cpcd support.
ISC dhcpd is also EOL upstream from October 5, 2022, so making a new
dependency on it is probably not a good idea.
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eeds, up to the point that the user wants an interactive
desktop - and then the kernel needs to (in effect) preempt the resource hungry
processes in favor of user-desktop interactivity. Resource control can do this
but we don't have everything wired up yet, more work is need
>
> Is there a way to merge PR lists from multiple packages into a single
> backlog?
>
I don't know about Pagure, but you can make bespoke packager dashboards to
show whatever combination of packages/packagers/groups you like :-)
https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/custom
Ch
Once upon a time, kevin said:
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 09:04:53AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said:
> > > The authentication issue being this one:
> > >
> > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11733
&g
Once upon a time, Steve Dickson said:
> I had to change my /etc/krb5.conf do to
> some realm changes... and now when I
> to a kinit to FEDORAPROJECT.ORG it
> hangs for a while then errors with
There is currently a FAS outage:
https://status.fedoraproject.org/
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ld never
> be used with a different CPU, the initial choice would be locked in.
It's not like we haven't had this before. Yes, it was annoying, but it
wasn't THAT big of an issue.
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the numeric node ID (needed for lots of config because the cluster
system used a "single root" filesystem, where all members had access to
the shared storage and mounted the same volume as /
ly set PATH to "known" values (for
good and bad reasons) to be able to depend on extending it. Heck, it
took a long time to get sudo just to include /usr/local/{bin,sbin}.
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> "ipv6.may-fail=no") in the connection profile. That is required when
> using "auto" methods, in order to avoid the situation where the
> connection succeeds after the "other"
riggered, right? Any services that try to bind to configured IPs or
the like need to still work.
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> the default value to 3000ms.
3 seconds seems kind of high (IIRC network-scripts used 1 second).
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> I would like to go even further and also separate distribution default code
> and locally installed code in the /usr tree. OpenSuse has developed a good
> proposal for this some time ago.
More separation than /usr vs. /usr/local?
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kernel-tools-libs changed libcpupower.so.0 to libcpupower.so.1 in
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ice depend on /dev/rtc not
existing?), as other RPi-targeted distros do. This isn't RPi-specific,
a number of the small boards have no RTC. I do typically add an RTC to
my Pis, but not always (for various reasons).
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ing to client C with a man-in-the-middle attack and a different
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whether
services or sockets) were paused for a time (configurable even) and then
returned to service. AFAIK this is a flaw in general in systemd's
limits; if something exceeds them, it takes manual intervention to reset
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rom a few months back discussing how a machine
can work out for itself whether it is EOL (or about to be) but I can't seem
to find it. Hopefully someone will be able to elaborate on that part of
your discussion because that reminder would be helpful.
Cheers,
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 15:25, C
I see, thanks for the advice! I made that change and job's a good 'un.
Cheers,
Chris
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wrote:
> On Thu, 2023-08-10 at 19:07 +0000, Chris Kelley wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have a GitHub Action (
> https://github.com/do
about the current state of affairs/expectations around it
working without issue. I am not sure to whom I should raise this issue, any
suggestions welcome - thanks!
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h systemd socket
activation in Fedora? In fact, xinetd was orphaned and retired, so the
only way to have that kind of functionality in Fedora is through
systemd, so systemd needs to support the same functionality.
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> On 04. 08. 23 14:45, Chris Adams wrote:
> >Could the repo config be removed by having fedora-repos Obsolete:
> >fedora-repos-moduler <= 39?
>
> That has already been done. But when the upgrade happens, the repo
> config is
ar installed, they will hit fatal
> errors that will probably look like this:
Could the repo config be removed by having fedora-repos Obsolete:
fedora-repos-moduler <= 39?
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isn't a high priority though, because very few things
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less on desktops
> since no motherboard vendors support it.
It also works on Dell and I think HP desktops... which represent a
significant chunk of the desktop PC market.
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swapped out with a subvolume for a short term work around. It doesn't sound
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Maybe. But I'm not aware of any recent data one way or the other, certainly
nothing Fedora specific.
I don't expect full preemption will impact servers in any meaningful way. I
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> wrote:
>> If restricted to desktops, then we can only do it with kernel
>> parameters. That probably means doing it in Anaconda kickstart, with
>> a
On Wed, May 24, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Sat, May 20, 2023, at 4:43 PM, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> Therefore, I am
>> asking if Fedora should use full kernel preemption by default.
>
> https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/228
>
> The outstanding
most 32-bit applications compiled with LFS? It looks like
anything with _GNU_SOURCE will get it, and IIRC that's not uncommon.
I'm curious how many 32-bit binaries are looking at inode numbers and
are NOT already LFS compatible.
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functionality planned, just bug/security fixes), CentOS Stream 9 will
stop altogether.
And Fedora ELN is aimed at CentOS Stream 10, which will eventually be
used to make RHEL 10.0, so is not useful for replicating RHEL 9.x
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Blue is probably a bad idea in a prompt, as the human eye doesn't
perceive blue as strongly as green. The prompt isn't about art/style,
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or their office needs, enough that even where Windows is the
predominant desktop OS, they don't get MS Office licenses either. They
don't have to worry about local backups of important documents and
spreadsheets, they get sharing with minimal effort, they can access
th
completely remove tzdata. We
> appreciated this input and welcome additional feedback.
It would be nice to know the reasons behind the recommendation. It
seems trying to eliminate tzdata completely is going to require a
significant amount of work and package churn, so why is this the better
it. But it is the first option on that
page.
https://alt.fedoraproject.org/
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> Workstation only.
One thing not mentioned: what does this do to the install image size,
especially for network booting?
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install it on a group of systems, managed with Ansible for example, no,
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> https://kojihub.stream.centos.org/koji/taginfo?tagID=2
That's not available as a repo though AFAIK.
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n a timely manner? With 7 there's the fasttrack repo,
but it doesn't actually seem to be used currently (and IIRC wasn't ever
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't get a corresponding update for quite a while. If
Stream doesn't get security updates in a timely fashion, it is not at
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n that this makes a difference.
>
> And in particular in the initrd, they are just not neeed.
Just checking one thing, NFS uses getservbyname, so they are needed, and
needed in the initrd for NFS root.
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Mine just failed with this, which doesn't look great:
File "", line 225, in makedirs
OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device:
'/var/tmp/koji/tasks/996/102220996/local/work'
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 at 15:31, Ralf Corsépius wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am facing (seemingly non-deterministic) FTBSes in
Hi Sandro,
I see someone took gtksourceviewmm3, can you swap for apache-logging-parent
please? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2214834
Also unretirement; bump to latest upstream version. It is a parent POM for
metadata so it is a simple one.
Cheers,
Chris
On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 at 08
On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, at 7:20 PM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Chris Murphy wrote:
>> OK I tried this again and discover shim is signed twice.
>>
>> Issuer: C=US, ST=Washington, L=Redmond, O=Microsoft Corporation,
>> CN=Microso
atures, whether or not it's a
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sha256sum hashes.
So maybe there isn't actually a problem other than it's confusing that there
are two signatures that also have different validity periods? I'm not sure what
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> On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 11:37:47AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Where is the proper place to request something be added to the install
> > image? I was going to file a BZ but wasn't sure of the proper
> > component.
> >
&
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> On Thu, 2023-06-08 at 11:37 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Where is the proper place to request something be added to the install
> > image? I was going to file a BZ but wasn't sure of the proper
> > component.
> >
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it, so I needed to do that before installing Fedora (or have
to install, change, then reinstall). It would be much more convenient
to be able to boot into rescue mode to do this.
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> > It's layered, but from what I understand, an upper layer depends on a
> > specific build of a lower layer. So using the up-thread example, if
> > there's a security update to
the up-thread example, if
there's a security update to zlib, the lower layer can rebuild to pick
it up, but until the upper layer (like say LO) also rebuilds on top of
the new lower layer, they'll be running on the old version.
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th shim-unsigned-x64 and
shim-unsigned-aarch64 SRPMs along side the shim SRPM with the signed
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EPEL builds, but I personally feel it would be more acceptable to build
Fedora packages on Fedora.
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es "latest live EPEL" mean - how is 8 the latest?
I guess basically, can you further explain/clarify exactly which
versions of what OS which JDKs will be built on, and when those versions
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> * Chris Adams:
>
> > Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said:
> >> It seems as if the ISC dhcp package has been EOL'd upstream:
> >>
> >> https://www.isc.org/dhcp/
> >
> > I'm a little surprised that
Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said:
> It seems as if the ISC dhcp package has been EOL'd upstream:
>
> https://www.isc.org/dhcp/
I'm a little surprised that nobody has forked this to continue
maintaining it. dhcpd is widely used, and kea is far from a drop-in
replacement.
plicit Provides:), although
that restriction is a SHOULD, not MUST. So unless that's changing, dnf5
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On Wed, May 24, 2023, at 2:55 PM, Peter Boy wrote:
>> Am 24.05.2023 um 20:30 schrieb Chris Murphy :
>>
>> I'm pretty sure we no longer have a program manager?
>
> What’s that about?
As I understand it, part of recent Red Hat layoffs. Red Hat and Fedora
program/projec
oss the
visible spectrum, green will appear to be the brightest.
Light purple is OK, Blue, indigo, or yellow tends to be harder to to detect
complex shapes (like letters and numbers) but I'm not sure of the reason(s).
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pretty sure we no longer have a program manager? So I'm kinda expecting a
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ing the default across the board and not
having a boot parameter.
Anyway, it seems like it would be semi-straightforward to do it in Anaconda
just for desktops using kickstart `bootloader --append=` command.
https://pykickstart.readthedocs.io/en/latest/kickstart-docs.html#bootloader
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are wrapped in a test like:
if [ "$PS1" ]; then
fi
PS1 is not set on a non-interactive shell (no TTY assign), so don't do
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on every prompt though; when a system is slow or having problems, those
can kill any chance at recovery or even troubleshooting.
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$ false
$ echo $? $?
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3.0.3, long before RHEL or Fedora).
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On Wed, May 10, 2023, at 7:36 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:
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> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 5:34 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
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>> On Wed, May 10, 2023, at 2:24 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:
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>>> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 12:02 P
On Wed, May 10, 2023, at 7:11 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said:
>> Read-only drivers, which are the only drivers under discussion here, aren't
>> a per se problem because they can't modify the file system. So they have no
>> complaints abou
Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said:
> Read-only drivers, which are the only drivers under discussion here, aren't a
> per se problem because they can't modify the file system. So they have no
> complaints about that.
But those read-only drivers are incomplete and problematic, e
; their take on your idea.]
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> So, unless you want to go against what the people who actually
> maintain the file systems expressly say please just get this idea out
> of your head that porting Linux file systems into EFI fs drivers was a
> good, supportable idea.
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> And Neal
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