Re: Decision on Fedora Product branding: Fedora $PRODUCT 21 vs Fedora 21 $PRODUCT

2014-10-21 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Should be Fedora 21 $PRODUCT because the Fedora version is underneath the product, and one product can usually convert into another on an installed system. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct:

Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Like this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=959071 I specifically followed up to say the issue continues in Fedora 19, and nothing changed. The bug tracker should not expire bugs if there's been a comment after the EOL warning. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Susi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote: You just need to change the Version tag. That is not something I appear to have access to do. And, if I don't, very few people do. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Quite a lot of people have editbugs - I think it's in the hundreds or thousands I mean few people in the sense that it requires a specific grant of permissions, more than to just report bugs. Telling me to join a group

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:39 PM, David Timothy Strauss da...@davidstrauss.net wrote: Telling me to join a group is also not addressing my complaint. My complaint is that Fedora is auto-setting EOL on bugs with no clear way for even the users who reported the bugs to stop it from happening

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: The idea of not closing bugs that have comments after the EOL notification doesn't necessarily make things better, I don't think; we'd just have errors in the other direction. Say someone dropped a note 'oh yeah, this

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: TBH I thought the whole point was that the reporter was expected to update the version if they wanted it to stay open so I'm a bit surprised to hear that they can't unless they are also a packager. Regular bug reporters

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Sure it does - it tells them to update the version if the problem still occurs. Those instructions start with Package Maintainer: so they are not directed at the people experiencing the bug. -- devel mailing list

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 15:04 -0800, David Timothy Strauss wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: TBH I thought the whole point was that the reporter was expected to update the version

Re: Auto-expiring bugs are getting absurd

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: Everyone does not need reopen: just the ability to change the version would suffice. (Unless there are serious worries about the risk of allowing users to deface version fields?) I think auto-expiration would work

Re: Fedora Server PRD Draft and call for participation

2014-01-21 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Mauricio Tavares raubvo...@gmail.com wrote: Fedora: o bleeding edge, where new stuff comes Cutting edge. Let's not ride the metaphor overly far [1]. We do actually test a fair bit before releasing Fedora or package updates. [1]