Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-28 Thread Jeff Backus
Thanks for the response and sorry for taking so long to reply. On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jeff Backus wrote: > > Hmm.. Yes, we've had discussions within the SIG re: window managers that > > support i586/i686, and KDE was on the list of WMs th

Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-13 Thread Jeff Backus
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 06/04/2018 06:55 PM, Jeff Backus wrote: > > Thanks for the insight. Yes, I can see the advantages. However, have >> things really gotten so bad that it justifies ejecting part of the >> community? >> > >

Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-05 Thread Jeff Backus
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 5 June 2018 at 12:49, Jeff Backus wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Matthew Miller < > mat...@fedoraproject.org> > > wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at

Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-05 Thread Jeff Backus
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 03:50:34PM -0400, Jeff Backus wrote: > > Thanks for the data. 25k is still a pretty healthy number. :) I realize > > Yeah, absolutely. And it's likely that those mirror numbers undercount, > b

Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-04 Thread Jeff Backus
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Jeff Backus wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > > > >> Jeff Backus wrote: > >> > >> > >> > Until (unless?) we have data indicating that this is a major drain

Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-04 Thread Jeff Backus
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 06/04/2018 02:50 PM, Jeff Backus wrote: > >> Thanks for the data. 25k is still a pretty healthy number. :) I realize >> that there are a lot of unknowns in the data, so it is difficult to draw >> any hard

Re: [X86] Re: Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-04 Thread Jeff Backus
e looking at only > needing to support a small subset of the software since running > GNOME/KDE with usually 128->512 MB of RAM is not possible. It also > would probably want a very stripped down installer since anaconda is > aimed at 'current' hardware... probably something

Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-04 Thread Jeff Backus
but laying that aside, x86_32 a) significantly larger than both ARM arches combined, and b) roughly 10% of the "user base". jeff -- Jeff Backus jeff.bac...@gmail.com http://github.com/jsbackus ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorap

Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-04 Thread Jeff Backus
or it if it's really > helpful.) > Thanks for the data. 25k is still a pretty healthy number. :) I realize that there are a lot of unknowns in the data, so it is difficult to draw any hard conclusions, but 25k is still much larger than 0. Splitting into i686 into i586 and i686 woul

Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-04 Thread Jeff Backus
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Jeff Backus wrote: > > > > Until (unless?) we have data indicating that this is a major drain on > > community resources, I'd push back on a change that actively excludes > part > > of the community. Now,

Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-04 Thread Jeff Backus
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:55 PM Jeff Backus wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Florian Weimer > wrote: > >> > >> On 06/04/2018 05:55 PM, Jeff Backus wrote: > >>>

Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-04 Thread Jeff Backus
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 06/04/2018 05:55 PM, Jeff Backus wrote: > >> Would you please provide more detail on what problem or problems we are >> trying to solve? Is this purely for efficiency reasons? >> > > Mainly developer ef

Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-04 Thread Jeff Backus
honest.) > > Certainly, I'm no netburst fan either. But the last[*] 32-bit-only > Intel chip was Yonah (Core 1), which went out of production in 2008- > ish, so there's about seven years worth of CPUs between the > introductions of SSE2 and AMD64. So this isn't eliminat

Re: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-04 Thread Jeff Backus
here. > > If we did want to allow for pre-P4 32-bit userspace, what I'd probably > do is (mostly) change %_libdir to /usr/lib/sse2 for i686, and leave it > as /usr/lib for a (reintroduced) i586 architecture. > If there is truly a pressing need to enable SSE2 for *all* i686 binarie

Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-04 Thread Jeff Backus
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:20 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64 = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/i686_Is_For_x86-64 > > > Owner(s): > * Florian Weimer > > > Fedora builds its i686 packages for use on x86-64 systems as multi-lib > RPMs. > > >

Re: No i686 build of grub2?

2017-08-28 Thread Jeff Backus
the party. Peter, I see that you updated the spec file to fix i686 building. Does that mean that everything is resolved? jeff -- Jeff Backus jeff.bac...@gmail.com http://github.com/jsbackus ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: No i686 build of grub2?

2017-08-28 Thread Jeff Backus
IG has until September 8th to get organized, or i686 gets pulled from the official kernels. So, anyone who still uses i686: Now's a great time to join up. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/x86 jeff Jeff Backus jeff.bac...@gmail.com http://github.com/jsbackus _

Re: Starting an x86_32 SIG

2017-07-20 Thread Jeff Backus
eas? > I was successful by going here: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/ and searching for 'x86'. jeff -- Jeff Backus jeff.bac...@gmail.com http://github.com/jsbackus ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Starting an x86_32 SIG

2017-07-13 Thread Jeff Backus
onally jump in to help. > > +1 I'm interested in x86 still being supported, but have less than zero time to help at the moment. A mailing list would help me to stay in the loop so that I can pitch in when I can. jeff -- Jeff Backus jeff.bac...@gmail.co

Re: Non-responsive package maintainer process - backintime

2016-02-12 Thread Jeff Backus
[2] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1542 > CCing Christopher. jeff -- Jeff Backus jeff.bac...@gmail.com http://github.com/jsbackus -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: working way to push updates currently?

2015-09-03 Thread Jeff Backus
ectly and haven't bothered to go back and try to repeat it Regards, Jeff -- Jeff Backus jeff.bac...@gmail.com http://github.com/jsbackus -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Self Introduction / Contributing a package to Fedora

2014-07-29 Thread Jeff Backus
ntion up front that it is informal and you aren't a packager yet. I can't stress enough how helpful it is to practice by reviewing other packages before trying to submit yours. You may be surprised at how many "oh, right, oops" moments you'll have. :) Regards, Jeff -- J

Looking for Review Swap

2014-06-28 Thread Jeff Backus
Hi folks, I'm looking to swap reviews for brd, a tool that scans directories and files for damage due to decay of storage medium: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1112434 Any takers? Regards, Jeff -- Jeff Backus jeff.bac...@gmail.com http://github.com/jsbackus -- devel ma

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla -> trivial patch policy?

2014-06-26 Thread Jeff Backus
s can figure it out. :) I presume the implementation cost is miniscule, so might at least be worth an experiment. Regards, Jeff -- Jeff Backus jeff.bac...@gmail.com http://github.com/jsbackus -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listi

Re: In need of a sponsor / new package submitted

2014-05-26 Thread Jeff Backus
Hi Björn, On 05/25/2014 04:37 AM, Björn Esser wrote: Am Samstag, den 24.05.2014, 10:47 -0400 schrieb Jeff Backus: Hey Jeff! Welcome to the Fedora Package Maintainers! I just approved your filed review-request [1]. As you already have done some real good informal reviews as mentioned here

In need of a sponsor / new package submitted

2014-05-24 Thread Jeff Backus
://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1055108 * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1058038 * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1094570 Thanks in advance for any and all help! Regards, Jeff -- Jeff Backus jeff.bac...@gmail.com http://github.com/jsbackus -- devel mailing list

Re: Self Introduction

2013-11-17 Thread Jeff Backus
Great! I appreciate any and all input. Regards, Jeff On 11/16/2013 08:06 PM, Christopher Meng wrote: This package is in my plan, I will help do an *informal* review. -- Jeff Backus jeff.bac...@gmail.com http://github.com/jsbackus -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Self Introduction

2013-11-16 Thread Jeff Backus
Hi, My name is Jeff Backus. I have been a Fedora user for many years now and am grateful for all of the hard work that the community has put into developing such a wonderful distro. I would like to do my little part to help the project by becoming a package maintainer. I have put together my