Dne 21.7.2010 08:22, Roland McGrath napsal(a):
> What does "manually" mean, anyway? A database query and a short script?
Isn't this something which automatic QA process could do very easily?
Matěj
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Dne 13.7.2010 23:17, Pádraig Brady napsal(a):
> To be clear, the "hundreds" contained many duplicates.
> I'm not complaining since I haven't looked into any
> of these issues, I'm just trying to provide insight
> into why SELinux might not be as tested as one would like.
Just to note, that setroub
Dne 13.7.2010 17:33, Pádraig Brady napsal(a):
> Personally I do momentarily enable to test but always disable
> because of _hundreds_ of errors in the applet thingy.
Hundreds? I have been running RHEL-6 from mid-Januray (that means
Rawhide was quite stable comparing to it) with SELinux in the Enf
Dne 13.7.2010 01:28, Jesse Keating napsal(a):
> Thanks in advance! (and find me on IRC or file tickets against
> fedora-packager in fedora hosted if you run into issues)
Cannot find you on IRC ...
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-packager/ticket/18
Matěj
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Dne 2.7.2010 11:34, Michael Schwendt napsal(a):
> Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such plans
> to upgrade a package. The primary package maintainer may have good reasons
> for not upgrading the package. Just ask!
The primary package maintainer (see the other thread
Dne 2.7.2010 06:28, Adam Miller napsal(a):
> I don't think it really matters what we call it, I just think that
> package maintainers are starting to get a sense of entitlement and I
> feel that's counter productive to the open environment we're used to
> and are trying to help continue to grow.
I
Dne 2.7.2010 09:37, Rahul Sundaram napsal(a):
> On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote:
>> It's seems to me that you have to be an employee of red hat to get the
>> privilegue to deal arbitrarily with all packages.
>
> Incorrect. Anyone in the provenpackagers group has access to almo
Dne 21.6.2010 10:46, Marcela Mašláňová napsal(a):
>> Marcela Mašláňová : 1
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=578480 spectrum
>>
> Here is another bug. I've done only the first review in this list.
The other one was kindly provided to me by Michal Schmidt.
Matěj
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Dne 4.6.2010 22:10, Tom "spot" Callaway napsal(a):
> Matěj, as I'm sure you know, we could find a lawyer who would tell us
I said European IP lawyer, but I will let it be.
Matěj
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Dne 3.6.2010 21:09, Tom "spot" Callaway napsal(a):
> You might feel that way, but the simple fact is that French citizens can
> not abandon copyright (aka put works into the Public Domain).
Do we have some better authority on this than Wikipedia? In my
understanding (in a dim memory, now long-tim
Dne 29.5.2010 09:03, Matěj Cepl napsal(a):
> The eternal glory and basking in the shite of the FLOSS gods' favour
^
ehm, that should be "shine" ...
Matěj
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The eternal glory and basking in the shite of the FLOSS gods' favour
waits for somebody who will be willing to repackage xorg-x11-fonts
according to the current font guidelines.
Unfortunately, I just don't want to pretend anymore, I will have a time
in next couple of months to do it, so I have
Dne 25.5.2010 18:17, Adam Williamson napsal(a):
> Free world fonts - Deja Vu and so on -
> were designed with the autohinter in mind, and tend to look better that
> way.
Not all of them ... I was chatting with the author of Iconoclasta and he
admitted he developed the font on Windows and with BCI
Dne 21.5.2010 11:30, Kevin Kofler napsal(a):
> Bastien Nocera wrote:
>> The question is why do you ship GTK+ apps on the KDE spin then, not how
>> to cripple GTK+ apps's help.
>
> Because we want our spin to be installable? The liveinst executable is part
> of the anaconda package, which requires a
Dne 10.5.2010 20:11, Jeff Spaleta napsal(a):
> And if that principled approach is not the most popular.. it doesn't
> mean its worth giving up. We need to shake loose the idea that being
> the most popular matters.
PREACH IT!!! PREACH IT, BROTHER!!!
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Dne 10.5.2010 12:48, Adam Williamson napsal(a):
> That's the wrong argument. We all know why we _can't_ make it just work,
> but that doesn't excuse us. Sorry to take a well-worn analogy, but if
> two guys are trying to sell you cars, and one doesn't have an engine,
> would the fact that the guy se
Dne 10.5.2010 11:35, drago01 napsal(a):
> I didn't say that we can fix it; just that it *is* easier in other
> distributions.
Which don't have principal headquarters of their sponsor in US (but on
the Isle of Man, which was chosen exactly because of its lax legal and
especially tax, true, regime
Dne 10.5.2010 11:26, drago01 napsal(a):
> To have stuff just work.
Go to http://senate.gov/ and ask your congressman to fix it. Otherwise
(for example if you don't have your congressman because you are not a
U.S. citizen), you can also try to move Red Hat's headquarters outside
of U.S. (althoug
Dne 10.5.2010 06:54, Ralf Corsepius napsal(a):
> Have you ever talked to Ubuntu/openSUSE users and listened to their
> replies when telling them you are using Fedora?
>
> You will hear answers along the line of too much inconvenience to get
> multimedia working, too unstable (in the sense of low MT
Dne 9.5.2010 06:53, Chen Lei napsal(a):
> For them, we can simply:
> 1. Simply orphan those application from repos which have dead upstream
> for a long time. Normally, those allipcations have better alternatives
> using GTK+ 2.x, we don't need worry about this.
> 2.Update applications to GTK 2.x p
Dne 9.5.2010 12:09, Adam Williamson napsal(a):
> Making any change is much harder than it should be; we always end up
> in endless discussions without any outcome while others like Ubuntu
> seems to have a better decision making process; and seriously I think
> this is the one which basically block
Dne 8.5.2010 03:39, Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a):
> It is a blessing and it is a curse. Why do more developers show up at
> conferences these days running Ubuntu or Debian systems.. many who
> used to run Fedora or RHL? My very non-scientific survey has been that
> it isn't that Ubuntu is cooler,
Dne 8.5.2010 07:33, James Antill napsal(a):
> The thread was repetitive from a thread that had been shut down because
> it had degenerated way past "be excellent to each other", and seemingly
> was restarted explicitly to incite more flames, misinformation and
> hatred.
What if, somebody is not
Dne 7.5.2010 16:56, Przemek Klosowski napsal(a):
> Here's the rub, though: Kevin argues for aggressive development and
> empowering the package maintainers to push out changes, even if it
> resulted in temporary regressions. Ralf, on the other hand, reminds us
> about the need for quality control,
Dne 7.5.2010 01:01, Rudolf Kastl napsal(a):
> one of the questions raised in the meeting posted by mcepl was... "why
> dont those people leave if they are unhappy". simple... they put alot
> sweat blood and tears into a project, and they have friends... with
> the development crowd and with the com
Dne 7.5.2010 00:45, Brian Pepple napsal(a):
> Please enlighten me then on what new information was added to this
> thread that wasn't in the prior thread that warranted keeping it alive?
Could you point out in
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Hall_Monitor_Policy where it says "thread
should be clo
Dne 6.5.2010 23:22, Matěj Cepl napsal(a):
> +1000 it feels to me like in a bad old Communism when the open debate
> was allowed only when it didn't touch the leading role of the Communist
> Party. I really don't think anybody in this thread said anything so
> sacrilegious tha
Dne 6.5.2010 12:28, Karel Zak napsal(a):
>> Thank you for pointing out yet another undemocratic policy passed by one of
>
> +1 The Hall Monitor Policy is cancer.
+1000 it feels to me like in a bad old Communism when the open debate
was allowed only when it didn't touch the leading role of the Co
Dne 16.3.2010 19:53, Peter Jones napsal(a):
> I'm pretty sure the point of these was to support other /operating systems/,
> where e.g. you might need sed from /usr/lib/ucb .
>
> That's total hogwash, of course, and these are actually completely useless.
Of course, +100.
Also to have platform-ind
Dne 16.3.2010 13:04, Jon Masters napsal(a):
> I'd just add those gstreamer packages to my exclude config in yum for
> the moment, if you don't want to deal with the breakage each time. Then
> you can remove those excludes when the repos catch up with each other.
>
> /etc/yum.conf:
>
> exclude=gstre
Dne 16.3.2010 09:50, Ankur Sinha napsal(a):
> I did notice that. I wasn't sure why a package from rpmfusion would
> conflict with one from fedora repos. (It's in rpmfusion for a reason)
> Is it being obsoleted by a fedora package (license been cleared or
> something)?
There are constantly modules
Dne 15.3.2010 13:43, Alexander Kurtakov napsal(a):
> According to the rhbz#438452 there shouldn't be any conflicts between the old
> one and java-gnome but if there is nothing in Fedora that requires libgnome-
> java and doesn't work with the new java-gnome we should obsolete it.
java-gnome 2.* us
Dne 14.3.2010 01:56, Hicham Haouari napsal(a):
> I want to add two packages to comps in F-13 and devel:
> - ueagle-atm4-firmware to hardware-support group as default
> - linux-atm to dial-up group as default
And both of the are in agreement with our licensing policies, right?
https://fedoraprojec
Dne 14.3.2010 09:59, Jon Masters napsal(a):
> Somewhat shockingly, some people do use Fedora for day to day stuff.
Don't worry they will stop soon. After all (quoting one post which I am
sorry got burried somewhere down the thread leaves):
$ Contributors are what makes Fedora grow and advance as
Dne 15.3.2010 01:59, Kevin Kofler napsal(a):
> Where's the evidence for that? I haven't noticed anything like that at all!
Isn't it because KDE was always pushing huge amounts of updates, so
there is no change for you? Just asking ...
I (and especially my wife who started to bitterly copmlain ab
Dne 14.3.2010 19:29, Kevin Kofler napsal(a):
> Nonsense. There ARE users who want this kind of updates. Please don't
> generalize your own opinion to ALL users in that way. "no" is a strong word!
And yes, these are users who have subscribed to updates-testing. My wife
bitterly complains about the
Dne 12.3.2010 02:26, Mike Chambers napsal(a):
> On F13, upgrade gnome-panel to version in updates-testing and you'll get
When was F13 released? Oh, it wasn't, so it is just glorified Rawhide
still? And you complain about it being broken (especially in its
updates-*testing*)?
BTW, this is the re
Dne 12.3.2010 02:24, Rahul Sundaram napsal(a):
> I disagree. Imagining that we are living in a island where no software
> exists outside the repository is just delusional and the assumption that
> everyone has the bandwidth to deal with all that churn is wrong as
> well. I should make people sit
Dne 10.3.2010 16:35, Tom "spot" Callaway napsal(a):
> On 03/09/2010 05:23 PM, nodata wrote:
>> Does Zimbra still ship as a blob of specific versions of lots of open
>> source software, of which the specific versions cannot be changed?
>
> Also, the last time I looked, it had a bundled copy of the S
Orphaning couple of packages:
- JSDoc (upstream has moved to competing project
http://code.google.com/p/jsdoc-toolkit/, so unless somebody needs this
package, I think it is ready for retiring from Fedora completely)
- python-urllib2_kerberos -- unsuccessful attempt to use this, lost any
interes
Dne 8.3.2010 22:59, Matthew Garrett napsal(a):
> The ability for maintainers to flag an update directly into the updates
> repository will be disabled. Before being added to updates, the package
> must receive a net karma of +3 in Bodhi.
I usually decrease required karma to +-1, but I have never e
On 25.2.2010 16:42, Jon Masters wrote:
> It seems most days now something breaks and I want to debug it, but then
> have to debuginfo-install. Is there a way to tell yum to always pull in
> the corresponding debuginfo packages whenever it installs something?
1) enable -debuginfo repo with your oth
On 16.2.2010 08:47, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> I can put a giant warning into the log that if input devices don't work then
> the users should have a look at the website above for reconfiguration. How
> does that sound? Do you have any better suggestions?
Do we have all currently packaged .fdi files
Dne 28.1.2010 15:53, Steve Dickson napsal(a):
>>> BEWARE!
>>>
>>> [Bug 559312] thunderbird corrupts mail indices (Old mail marked as new)
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=559312
Everybody take a look at this bug (now CLOSED/UPSTREAM) for temporary
workaround.
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