Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 9:54 AM David Cantrell wrote: > > Hi, > > Our most recent FESCo meeting involved discussing the proposal to drop i686 > builds of jdk8,11,17 from Fedora 37 onward. The topic quickly changed to the > larger question of "what do people use i686 packages for?" > > Rather

Re: Linux Plumbers Conference - Open Printing Micro Conference

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 8:12 AM Björn Persson wrote: > > Zdenek Dohnal wrote: > > the schedule for the first no-driver was proposed > > What is a no-driver? > I guess some kind of abstraction at the device level so the way you talk to it is the same as any other device. In other words, the

Re: I think we should stop building i686 packages we're not shipping

On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 4:47 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > On Wednesday, 01 September 2021 at 10:01, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 31/08/2021 18:53, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > This is an off-shoot thought of the 32-bit ARM conversation. Right now, we > > > build stuff like

Re: Just say "No!" and do not document GRUB2 anymore!

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 7:02 AM e wrote: > > On Thu, 27 May 2021 12:54:31 +0200 astoundingly, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > wrote: > > > On 27.05.2021 12:30, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > > > Support for other OS for those who like/need to dualboot? > > >

Re: Just say "No!" and do not document GRUB2 anymore!

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 6:27 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 27.05.2021 12:13, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > why systemd-boot is better ? > > 1. Not a bootloader. > 2. Very simple and clean. > 3. Starts Linux kernel directly with EFIStub without any bootloaders. > 4. Can be used with

Re: Just say "No!" and do not document GRUB2 anymore!

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 5:49 AM e wrote: > > sounds unintuitive, but he just speaks truth to power: > > https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/quick-docs/issue/352#comment-734630 > > "I think the GRUB stuff is so esoteric, so conditional and overly > complicated, that we shouldn't > explain it.

Re: Reducing noise on devel list

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM Robbie Harwood wrote: > > Vít Ondruch writes: > > > I have setup filter ages ago and it moves such emails into subfolder. I > > still think this is preferable to moving them into different ML. > > I would like to disagree with the idea that everyone needing to

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 5:20 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 12:15:07AM +0200, Nikolay Nikolov wrote: > > there's even less reason to skip it. Which really begs the question, > > why do we even assume the media test is only useful for DVD and not > > for USB flash? > > I

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:08 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > Right now, when you start Fedora live media to install Workstation or KDE or > etc., you get an ugly text prompt which defaults to doing a media test > (although it's not actually even clear from the highlighting that that's the >

Re: F34 Change proposal: Remove support for SELinux runtime disable (System-Wide Change)

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 7:38 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 7:33 AM Richard Hughes wrote: > > > > On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 10:17, Tom Hughes wrote: > > > > Speaking from personal experience, I've wasted days over the last > > > > decade trying to debug a locally installed system

Re: About the Future of Communishift

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 7:48 AM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 07:16:02AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 7:10 AM clime wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 12:59, clime wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 12:48, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > > > >

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:30 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mi, 01.07.20 22:10, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > This could still work. But you really shouldn't accept butt-ugliness > > from any user-facing technology, even sd-boot. > > Dude, maybe what is "butt-ugly" and what

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:39 PM Tom Seewald wrote: > > > Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes > > it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop supporting > > booting in legacy bios mode and move to uefi only supported boot which > > has been

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

I am reading this thread and seeing a lot of "this will make it easy on end users" and "this will piss developers off." How many? Who? Without data to back those statements they are just examples of hyperbole built upon personal beliefs. ___ devel

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F31 to F32

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 10:25 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Do you want to make Fedora 32 better? Please spend 1 minute of your time and > try to run: > > # Run this only if you use default Fedora modules > # next time you run any DNF command default modules will be enabled again > sudo dnf

Re: FreeCAD required updates (PySide2 & Coin4)

Stupid question: does FreeCAD have nightly packages (like openscad)? If so, how complicate would it be to run the coin4 version there for a while so people can monkey with it and find issues? Then give some time; if it seems to work happy, make it production. Just my two pesos Russos.

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:44 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-09-10 at 02:41 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > openvswitch aconole, chrisw, orphan, 0 weeks ago > > > tgraf, tredaell > > > > This one is a

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Disable Root Password Login in SSH

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 8:24 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 2:54 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DisableRootPasswordLoginInSshd > > > > == Summary == > > The upstream OpenSSH disabled password logins for root back in 2015. > > The

Re: No i686 build of grub2?

I think I read here (or in other mailing list) about an interest in dropping 32bit altogether. But this might be just my imagination. On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Currently grub2 isn't being built for i686 since somewhere between 2.02-8 > and 2.02-10.

Re: BTRFS dropped by RedHat

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > I'm not particularly pleased with their decision. I think the path > they're going down is wrong, and they should really reconsider. > However, I'm reading over their Stratis whitepaper before I formulate > a response

Re: Urgent call for testing: OS X dual boot

How old can the OSX box be? I have in a box an old Mac mini (Dual core and can only officially supported to 10.7) I have no issues to put to service. On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi, folks! We've had an F25 blocker proposed for failure to

Re: RFC: Fixing the "nobody" user?

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Heya! > > I'd like to start a discussion regarding the "nobody" user on Fedora, > and propose that we change its definition sooner or later. I am not > proposing a feature according to the feature process for this

Re: Is systemd within a Docker container still recommended?

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Mon, 02.03.15 09:17, Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) wrote: On 03/01/2015 10:41 PM, Michael DePaulo wrote: Hi, I am developing a Dockerfile for X2Go. I intend to submit a PR to fedora-Dockerfiles

Re: an that is why we need a firewall - Re: When a yum update sets up an MTA ...

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 21.04.2014 03:39, schrieb Lars Seipel: Nicely aligning with the current firewall thread I noticed that one of my machines was running the exim MTA for the last few days, dutifully listening on all interfaces and

Creating local repo

Could anyone point me to info on creating a local repo? I want to learn the entire process of creating a package but think it might be wiser to have a controlled environment -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of

Self Introduction: Mauricio Tavares

What can I say about me? First of all, my goals to be here are not as life-changing as many of you. I want to learn how to build and test fendora/redhat packages. And then help keep some packages I like (I am a selfish bastard) alive and maybe even updated. Perhaps help deal with whatever

Re: Fedora Server PRD Draft and call for participation

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) said: The first deliverable that the Fedora Server Working Group was tasked with was the production of a Product Requirements Document. This document is intended to provide a

Re: Orphaned packages up for grabs

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Casper fan...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Mauricio Tavares a écrit : On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Casper fan...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Kevin Fenzi a écrit : Greetings. The following packages have been orphaned due to their former maintainer removing

Re: What to do about packaging beta, or rc as alternate installable

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously, it's harmful to provide unstable packages to users. Still, it makes sense to have a place to beta test either the package or the packaging (how to create a proper package?) itself. And I don't think

Re: Orphaned packages up for grabs

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Casper fan...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Kevin Fenzi a écrit : Greetings. The following packages have been orphaned due to their former maintainer removing themselves from the packager group: NetPIPE checkdns taken, co-maintainers welcome I might

On the qemu-system-XXX packages

It seems a lot of them were not created for EPEL 6 and 7 (see https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/qemu-system-arm as an example). I take that means the current maintainer is up to his nose in projects. How can I be equal parts lazy ass and selfish SOB and volunteer to be a co-maintainer