Re: GitHub Hosted upstream 'Source0'

2011-02-15 Thread Tom Lane
they are doing it, AFAICS, and it's not obvious what file format you will get from their URLs. (zipball seems a particularly poor choice here --- personally I'd have thought it meant a .zip archive ...) regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Mass Rebuild and Mass branching status update

2011-02-11 Thread Tom Lane
Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes: On 2/10/11 7:42 PM, Tom Lane wrote: ... so, given that I've used fedpkg co -B to create a working tree with a subdirectory per branch, what's the incantation to get an f15/ subdirectory added to that tree? I hope there's a better answer than rm -rf

Re: Mass Rebuild and Mass branching status update

2011-02-10 Thread Tom Lane
and re-clone. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: __perl_requires misbehaving in rawhide (rpm or grep broken??)

2011-02-03 Thread Tom Lane
Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org writes: Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: For the last week or so I've been getting broken-dependencies nagmail about mysql-test-5.5.8-6.fc15.x86_64 requires perl(mtr_misc.pl) RPM 4.9 has made changes in the provides/requires extraction code

__perl_requires misbehaving in rawhide (rpm or grep broken??)

2011-02-02 Thread Tom Lane
explanation? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Problems with Rawhide Buildroot?

2011-01-27 Thread Tom Lane
. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Removing -fexceptions from $RPM_OPT_FLAGS

2011-01-19 Thread Tom Lane
-fexceptions. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: heads-up: systemtap-sdt-devel rebase in rawhide

2011-01-19 Thread Tom Lane
, or this same scenario is going to be played out again and again. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Removing -fexceptions from $RPM_OPT_FLAGS

2011-01-19 Thread Tom Lane
f...@redhat.com (Frank Ch. Eigler) writes: Tom Lane t...@redhat.com writes: Hmm ... so what should I do with mysql? Since approximately forever, upstream has recommended using -fno-exceptions (and also -felide-constructors -fno-rtti) in CXXFLAGS. [...] ... Seems like I should either drop

Re: initscript: Do I have to wait for a service to stop?

2011-01-17 Thread Tom Lane
, which it ought to do only as the last externally visible step in its shutdown. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide

2011-01-10 Thread Tom Lane
don't think this is violating any packaging guidelines. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide

2011-01-05 Thread Tom Lane
Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net writes: So should simply patching to call mysql_thread_end instead should do the trick? Right. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide

2011-01-03 Thread Tom Lane
Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net writes: Tom Lane wrote: I got tired of the amount of visible churn in exported-symbols-you're- not-supposed-to-use. The new release will use a linker --version-script to hide everything except the documented API functions. This might break any apps

Re: [HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide

2011-01-03 Thread Tom Lane
Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Tom Lane wrote: For now I'll include a symlink libmysqlclient_r.so - libmysqlclient.so, so that a simple rebuild with no source-code changes should be sufficient.  Eventually we'll probably want to fix the source

Re: [HEADS-UP] PostgreSQL 9.0.2 now in rawhide

2010-12-29 Thread Tom Lane
else. But I don't currently know enough about systemd to tackle that. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide

2010-12-28 Thread Tom Lane
Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com writes: Le 22/12/2010 23:28, Tom Lane a écrit : mysql++ I've just committed some minor changes to this one (not related to the MySQL 5.5 update, but on my TODO for a while) Just need to launch the build (I could do it as soon as -2 will hit rawhide

[HEADS-UP] PostgreSQL 9.0.2 now in rawhide

2010-12-28 Thread Tom Lane
thing to make first. Please let me know of either successful or unsuccessful upgrades. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] PostgreSQL 9.0.2 now in rawhide

2010-12-28 Thread Tom Lane
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes: On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 19:36:35 -0500, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: I have pushed PostgreSQL 9.0.2 into rawhide, replacing the 8.4.x release series. Please let me know of either successful or unsuccessful upgrades. I tried it out and it seems

Re: [HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide

2010-12-27 Thread Tom Lane
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp...@gmail.com writes: 2010/12/22 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com: 1. libmysqlclient.so, which is linked into all manner of stuff, is supposed to be ABI-compatible with the previous releases.  However, I got tired of the amount of visible churn in exported

hmm, repoquery lied to me

2010-12-25 Thread Tom Lane
, but if there are a couple of dozen dependencies instead of four, maybe it was a bad idea. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: hmm, repoquery lied to me

2010-12-25 Thread Tom Lane
nearly match the rawhide report, but I'm still baffled as to why I don't get that from repoquery here. Also, unless you truncated that output before reaching qt-mysql, yours is incomplete also. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: hmm, repoquery lied to me

2010-12-25 Thread Tom Lane
repoquery to not filter by arch? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: What drives RPM Provides for shared libraries?

2010-12-22 Thread Tom Lane
on the Provides items? I hope there's a better way than #ifarch'ing for all the known 64-bit arches ... regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: What drives RPM Provides for shared libraries?

2010-12-22 Thread Tom Lane
regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

[HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide

2010-12-22 Thread Tom Lane
to what extent these may affect Fedora applications, but it seems like the easiest way to find out is to try them. Any objections? Anything people think should be tested before pushing? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

What drives RPM Provides for shared libraries?

2010-12-21 Thread Tom Lane
symlinks for this purpose, but even copying instead of symlinking the library didn't get me a second set of provides items. What drives those decisions? If there isn't any good hack to fix this, how bad would it be to just drop libmysqlclient_r.so ? regards, tom lane

Re: Any plans for PostgreSQL 9, MySQL 5.5 in F15?

2010-12-20 Thread Tom Lane
Devrim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=DCND=DCZ?= fedora-l...@gunduz.org writes: On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 17:30 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Yes. What about multiple version support in PG? I'm hoping to support in-place upgrade from 8.4. I'm not planning to open the concurrently-installed-versions can of worms

Re: Any plans for PostgreSQL 9, MySQL 5.5 in F15?

2010-12-19 Thread Tom Lane
Yes. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Firewall

2010-12-06 Thread Tom Lane
by default is an incredibly stupid idea. What we need to do is fix the UI problems, not bypass them by dramatically reducing security. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-30 Thread Tom Lane
to set up these dirs once via RPM --- why shouldn't we make the tmpfs creation process responsible for cloning the directory structure from disk? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-22 Thread Tom Lane
not going to happen, most of the time for most packages. (And yeah, if we allow +1 autopush, we should definitely expect -1 is sufficient to unpush. Maybe bodhi should restrict the combination of those two settings, rather than either one alone?) regards, tom lane -- devel

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-20 Thread Tom Lane
inefficient use of their time. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Rawhide kernel image no longer readable

2010-11-20 Thread Tom Lane
is not a useful approach to security. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-12 Thread Tom Lane
Clyde E. Kunkel clydekunkel7...@cox.net writes: On 11/12/2010 02:32 PM, Tom Lane wrote: It's absolutely crystal clear to me that we don't have enough tester manpower to make the current policy workable; it's past time to stop denying that. I'd suggest narrowing the policy to a small number

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-10-05 Thread Tom Lane
are intending to rebuild? Or at least the exact dates where the bad gcc was in use? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Tom Lane
the dead now is just an exercise in misplaced priorities. But having said that, it's not my decision to make; it's the libjpeg-turbo authors' decision whether to expend effort in that direction. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?

2010-09-20 Thread Tom Lane
--- see http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: newer NVRs in older releases.

2010-09-07 Thread Tom Lane
. There was some discussion last week about teaching the broken-dependencies nagbot to also nag about NVR sequence discrepancies. Is that feasible or a reasonable response? Or is that subsumed under your mention of autoqa? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Inspecting/debugging a mock build

2010-09-05 Thread Tom Lane
I'm going to need. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb is not tracking updates?

2010-09-05 Thread Tom Lane
, and even the N days ago annotations in the shortlog view seem wonky, as if the server clock were stuck in early August. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Please remember to update rawhide

2010-09-03 Thread Tom Lane
the latest completed build. It's rawhide, after all. regards, tom lane ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

Re: Please remember to update rawhide

2010-09-02 Thread Tom Lane
branches happens to execute first? What I think would be useful would be to extend the broken-dependency nagbot so that it also nags if you have a back-branch that's NVR-newer than any later branch. IOW: nag good, preventing people from doing their work bad. regards, tom

Re: Please remember to update rawhide

2010-09-02 Thread Tom Lane
the latest completed build. It's rawhide, after all. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Please remember to update rawhide

2010-09-02 Thread Tom Lane
Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu writes: Tom Lane wrote: Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com writes: When you do an update in F-14 and rely on inheritance to get the package into rawhide, there is a problem. That package will not go to rawhide until it hits stable in F-14. ... um

Re: fedpkg prep

2010-09-01 Thread Tom Lane
said, this sort of difference shouldn't hurt the ability to merge or cherrypick diffs from one branch to another. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

fedoraproject.org certificate has expired

2010-07-31 Thread Tom Lane
Just in case you thought we weren't having enough infrastructure fun already ... My web browser is complaining that admin.fedoraproject.org is presenting an invalid SSL certificate: it expired July 31, 2010 8:17:52 AM ET, ie about three hours ago. regards, tom lane

Re: HEADS UP - packages requiring openldap or openldap-clients

2010-07-07 Thread Tom Lane
. I'm sending a list of possibly affected ones. Were there any ABI breaks? ie should we just be forcing rebuilds? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: concept of package ownership

2010-07-01 Thread Tom Lane
counterproductive to downgrade that responsibility, or even worse pretend that it doesn't matter --- and Kevin's lead statement in this thread is damn close to pretending that. Sorry Kevin, we are not interchangeable parts. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Lane
. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Lane
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com writes: On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 11:35 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: The proposed policy might be workable if we had a surplus of proventester manpower available, but we obviously have not got that. See above, you cannot judge this on current experience. Yes I can

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Lane
with this is to have two maintainers who each sign up as proventesters and then bump the karma on their own packages? Surely that's not the way to get more eyeballs on the problem. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Lane
dysfunctional system is hard to imagine. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Lane
Will Woods wwo...@redhat.com writes: On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 15:04 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Yes I can. I have two critpath packages that are in testing with security bugs, both pretty small and easy to test, and both still have karma zero. That seems to me to be adequate proof that there's

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Lane
Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net writes: On 6/30/10 12:29 PM, Tom Lane wrote: I mentioned libtiff in my first comment in this thread. The other one is libpng. But in any case, are maintainers supposed to have to scare up testers on their own? Especially for packages that are supposed

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Tom Lane
next year init scripts. I'll just stick with the tested sysv ones, thanks. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: libjpeg for F14

2010-05-31 Thread Tom Lane
development and is taking care not to break things unnecessarily, I'm happy to see them become the forefront of libjpeg development. Especially if it means I don't have to do the work ;-) regards, tom lane ex-organizer, Independent JPEG Group -- devel mailing

Re: s/redhat/system in package names

2010-05-10 Thread Tom Lane
. Can't speak to the other two of my own knowledge ... but if they weren't renamed the first time around, it's probably because people thought they were distro-specific. s/redhat/fedora/ seems a plausible solution to me. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel

Re: chrony as default NTP client?

2010-05-05 Thread Tom Lane
of people who prefer ntpd is nonexistent. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

F-13 libtool broken by gcc update

2010-05-03 Thread Tom Lane
there loud bleats from broken-dependencies checking? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F-13 libtool broken by gcc update

2010-05-03 Thread Tom Lane
builds see the override, or just prevent unrelated builds from happening during the window? This is surely not going to be the last undesired failure if things stay like this. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: F-13 libtool broken by gcc update

2010-05-03 Thread Tom Lane
. There is no newrepo task running for F-13, and no evidence that one has been launched recently. Perhaps an untag event fails to force a repo rebuild? If so seems like a bug. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: F-13 libtool broken by gcc update

2010-05-03 Thread Tom Lane
Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com writes: On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 03:35:44PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: BTW, it's now two hours later and gcc 4.4.4 is still in the buildroot. There is no newrepo task running for F-13, and no evidence that one has been launched recently. Perhaps an untag event fails

Re: Postgresql namespace

2010-04-26 Thread Tom Lane
to Fedora, where I usually push the official update about as quickly, but for sure it's an issue on RHEL and CentOS. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Bodhi update tool broken?

2010-04-25 Thread Tom Lane
I'm getting 500 Internal error The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from fulfilling the request. Powered by CherryPy 2.3.0 while trying to submit new package updates in bodhi. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010-04-25 Thread Tom Lane
it be sensible to approach the Mozilla folk about getting them to relax their requirements so that sane packaging is possible? ISTM that this must be a problem for other distros too. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010-04-25 Thread Tom Lane
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:03:28 -0400, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: Wouldn't it be sensible to approach the Mozilla folk about getting them to relax their requirements so that sane packaging is possible? ISTM that this must be a problem for other

Re: Postgresql namespace

2010-04-23 Thread Tom Lane
precedent for Devrim's position. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Postgresql namespace

2010-04-23 Thread Tom Lane
for packages that are purely internal to the database, but I'm not finding that to be a compelling idea. I think name it after the upstream project is a good enough rule. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: Update testing policy: how to use Bodhi

2010-03-27 Thread Tom Lane
developer, I can hardly think of a quicker way to piss me off than if every distro were to start sending me such nagmail. I would not want such a thing turned on on *any* of my packages. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: To semi-rolling or not to semi-rolling, that is the question...

2010-03-04 Thread Tom Lane
the resources to make it happen. A mandate from FESCO is not worth diddly-squat unless FESCO is prepared to do the work. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call for feedback)

2010-02-26 Thread Tom Lane
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at writes: Some situations where I and others have used direct stable pushes in the past and where I think they're really warranted and should be used: You forgot security fixes. The proposed policy is insane. regards, tom lane

Re: Read this if your package BuildRequires qt(4)-devel!!!

2010-02-23 Thread Tom Lane
of trouble. I guess I am wondering why such a change is being made in a stable branch in the first place. Why isn't this sort of thing strictly rawhide material? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: Bodhi hash collision?

2010-02-19 Thread Tom Lane
Luke Macken lmac...@redhat.com writes: A large number of updates currently suffer from duplicate IDs, and I need to figure out a clever way to fix it. Would it be prudent to not push new updates until you've fixed it? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel

Broken deps reports broken?

2010-02-17 Thread Tom Lane
I just got about half a dozen broken dependencies in devel emails that seem to be completely wacko, as neither the dependent nor the dependee have changed lately. Something messed up in the repo maybe? regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-17 Thread Tom Lane
think: if you get multiple reports of the same backtrace then you start to think that it's a real bug rather than bad RAM. This still does nothing for the basic problem, though, which is that a backtrace alone isn't very useful for fixing the bug. regards, tom lane

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-17 Thread Tom Lane
that dumps would put on bugzilla, I think we can safely dismiss the idea. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Heads-Up: Beware of xmlCleanupParser() when your package links against libxml2

2010-01-12 Thread Tom Lane
to fix? There's certainly nothing in their documentation suggesting that there's such a requirement. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Change to DSO-linking semantics of the compiler

2010-01-11 Thread Tom Lane
list all the libraries that *they* depend on, instead of being sloppy. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

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