Re: Moving away from the term "karma" in Bodhi

2024-11-22 Thread Arthur G
I blame the Golgafrinchans. On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 at 10:30, Leslie Satenstein via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > I use 3 languages in human speech, and I have in-house three cultures. > When we talk of a person and his actions, we say he has good karma. > Karma is a feeling. Karma

Re: pkcs11-provider update breaks eduroam

2024-11-21 Thread Arthur Bols via devel
On 21/11/2024 13:06, Davide Caratti wrote: yes. The problem is in md4_vector() [1], the legacy provider has a non-NULL pointer and EVP_md4() fetches correctly. However, when pkcs11-provider is installed, EVP_DigestInit_ex() fails. I tried this patch [2] on upstream wpa_supplicant, and it seem to

pkcs11-provider update breaks eduroam

2024-11-19 Thread Arthur Bols via devel
until there’s a fix? Kind regards, Arthur Bols fas: principis [0]: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/unable-to-connect-to-wpa2-enterprise-after-upgrading-to-fedora-41/134889 [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2326839 -- ___ devel

Re: Orphaning eza (rust-eza - maintained fork of exa)

2024-11-05 Thread Arthur Bols via devel
On 05/11/2024 21:39, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 9:33 PM Arthur Bols wrote: Hi Fabio, On 31/10/2024 19:38, Fabio Valentini wrote: Hi all, TL;DR: I am planning to orphan rust-eza later today. Be warned - it's a lot of work to keep up with upstream (~1 release per

Re: Orphaning eza (rust-eza - maintained fork of exa)

2024-11-05 Thread Arthur Bols via devel
ct that's been around since 2017 in some form without asking other contributors (or the original author of exa) doesn't pass the smell test for me. Seriously... https://github.com/eza-community/eza/releases/tag/v0.20.0 The PR mentions dual-licensing, but it's now a mess of only MIT, MIT

Re: FedoraWorkstation default firewall rules unsafe

2024-07-29 Thread Arthur Bols via devel
On 28/07/2024 23:11, Samuel Sieb wrote: MDNS works by default.  Users don't need to open the port. It seems you are correct, due to the fact that ports 1025-65535 are open by default. I must've changed to the default zone to home for my network when I tried this years ago. Thanks for the corr

Re: FedoraWorkstation default firewall rules unsafe

2024-07-28 Thread Arthur Bols via devel
On 28/07/2024 13:20, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Sun, Jul 28 2024 at 11:37:15 AM +02:00:00, Arthur Bols via devel wrote: Aside that this does not contribute to the discussion at all, I believe it is reasonable to assume that the default firewall rules are strict enough to not open all ports

Re: FedoraWorkstation default firewall rules unsafe

2024-07-28 Thread Arthur Bols via devel
On 28/07/2024 11:33, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2024-07-28 at 10:25 +0200, Arthur Bols via devel wrote: Hi all, Yesterday, while assisting a user with connecting a printer, I noticed that the default firewall zone on Fedora Workstation is set to "FedoraWorkstation". This zone

Re: FedoraWorkstation default firewall rules unsafe

2024-07-28 Thread Arthur Bols via devel
On 28/07/2024 11:20, Björn Persson wrote: Arthur Bols via devel wrote: I often run dev servers that I assume are secure due to the default firewall settings This practice of blindly assuming that somebody else is protecting you from your own negligence is a common source of security breaches

FedoraWorkstation default firewall rules unsafe

2024-07-28 Thread Arthur Bols via devel
ge request to remove these firewall rules for better security but want to ensure I'm not overlooking anything. Thanks in advance! Kind regards, Arthur Bols fas: principis [0]: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/firewalld/blob/c2e602b9fa037b10c843f43afbb2d1d3fc9b612a/f

Re: Rust Stack Spring Cleaning - 2024 Edition

2024-04-23 Thread Arthur Bols
//bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2258358 -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.f

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-31 Thread Arthur Bols
;t want to use it. Thank you, these are valid points that I was mostly unaware of. 1 and 2 (I use a mooltipass, so it's just one extra click) aren't a problem for me and hopefully I'll never need the 3rd, but I can see how this could have a big impact on other users. -- Arthu

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-31 Thread Arthur Bols
while, enabling 2FA helps A LOT even if used incorrectly (e.g. storing it in the same keepassxc database). -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fed

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-31 Thread Arthur Bols
a acount... An important note, the docs [0] should probably mention `fkinit -u `. It's much easier than using kinit. [0]: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-accounts/user/#pkinit -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis -- ___ devel m

Re: Feedback wanted: Kvantum 1.1.0 spec changes

2024-03-28 Thread Arthur Bols
On 28/03/2024 12:22, Neal Gompa wrote: On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 6:11 AM Arthur Bols wrote: This seems reasonable to me. Do we have any packaged themes that need to be adjusted alongside it? Thanks for taking a look! I don't think so. There is nothing breaking in the changelog for themes

Feedback wanted: Kvantum 1.1.0 spec changes

2024-03-28 Thread Arthur Bols
greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Arthur Bols fas/irc: principisFrom 2d7a2c39be4baee14bc830c9e7fbf0d7480095bf Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Arthur Bols Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 11:49:52 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] Update to 1.1.0 (fedora#2269918) --- .gitignore | 1 + kvantum.spec | 84

Re: Non-responsive maintainer check for dagostinelli

2024-03-28 Thread Arthur Bols
to their email. -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-o

pygobject3 orphaned?

2024-02-25 Thread Arthur Bols
ndency of power-profiles-daemon. -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/

Re: Proposing a Fedora SIG for the upcoming COSMIC desktop environment

2024-02-17 Thread Arthur Tucker via devel
This is my first time participating in a mailing list as well, but I wanted to show my support for this. Thanks for getting the ball rolling! -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fe

Re: Change of cronie and crontabs CIS compliance

2023-12-10 Thread Arthur G
Generally, CIS Benchmarks are only prescriptive and getting near/total compliance with the benchmark is mainly for those who have host fleets under some SCAP compliance regime. Nonetheless, picking on the low hanging fruit such as cron compliance isn't going to drastically improve the security post

Re: Inactive packages removed from packager group

2023-11-19 Thread Arthur G
I recall a number of years back a proposed gcc upgrade broke many builds. This required most maintainers to log in and refactor their source code against the new gcc (and new gcc options). I hadn't logged into Fedora for years however I did do my due diligence and rather quickly logged in and fixe

Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

2023-06-30 Thread Arthur Bols
rilo grilo-plugins ifuse iio-sensor-proxy libfprint libglib-testing libimobiledevice libpeas libplist libportal libusbmuxd low-memory-monitor malcontent power-profiles-daemon sloccount switcheroo-control totem totem-pl-parser umockdev usbmuxd I've picked up power-profiles-d

Re: Two Years of Fedora Releases

2023-06-23 Thread Arthur Bols
another Ubuntu. [0]: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/#_first -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Cod

Re: Red Hat Stream ONLY, Orphaning packages

2023-06-22 Thread Arthur Bols
me as a co-maintainer. -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-con

Re: New look for Koji Web

2023-06-21 Thread Arthur Bols
On 21/06/2023 06:30, Ryan Lerch wrote: The Koji web front end is now running a new theme that brings it into line with the majority of our other devel focused web applications: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/ Looks very good, great work! -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis

Re: (lack) of koji stability

2023-06-16 Thread Arthur Bols
going on? Ralf My build also just failed on i686 with the same error: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=102221654 -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: Bodhi slow with 504 gateway timeouts

2023-01-17 Thread Arthur Bols
On 17/01/2023 16:15, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 4:13 PM Richard Shaw wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 8:18 AM Arthur Bols wrote: On 17/01/2023 14:57, Stephen Smoogen wrote: So bodhi and pagure are at different datacenters with hopefully different network paths. Could

Re: [Package Review] draco

2023-01-17 Thread Arthur Bols
could review mooltipass-udev: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2160449 . It's a simple package for the udev rules for mooltipass devices, which were previously included in the moolticute package. -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis ___

Re: Bodhi slow with 504 gateway timeouts

2023-01-17 Thread Arthur Bols
17  8.43.84.4 (8.43.84.4)  215.289 ms  215.232 ms  211.599 ms 18  ip-8-43-86-126.foo.bar (8.43.86.126)  124.226 ms  126.584 ms 142.354 ms 19  proxy14.fedoraproject.org (8.43.85.67)  134.550 ms !X  116.964 ms !X  121.806 ms !X -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis _

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2023-01-16 Thread Arthur Bols
On 17/03/2022 10:49, Matyáš Kroupa wrote: Hi, I use wine and steam (and some libraries which are required to run them) with total of 254 i686 packages. Matyáš I'm also using them for wine and steam. -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis ___

Re: Change Proposal: replace dnf with dnf5

2023-01-10 Thread Arthur Bols
re the Fedora 39 release? Should this be postponed to Fedora 40 to allow for more testing, migration of other tools and more? -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Malicious communication (was: Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2023-01-03))

2023-01-09 Thread Arthur Bols
rmal or friendly is a bit more difficult. Therefore I understand and agree that non-native English speakers are given a bit of leeway. -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: Review requests: perl-Feature-Compat-Class, perl-Feature-Compat-Try (needed for licensecheck update)

2023-01-08 Thread Arthur Bols
review in exchange. Thanks Sandro I took perl-Feature-Compat-Class, the other one was already taken by Petr. If you have some free time, I'd love to have diff-so-fancy (perl script) reviewed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2150097 -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: prin

Re: TeXLive 2022 landing in rawhide today

2023-01-05 Thread Arthur Bols
ork! I use texlive daily and really appreciate it. I'm not sure if this is helps you, but I compiled a few of my largest documents (~600 pages in total with lots of math and figures) and visually compared one of them without any errors. -- Arthur Bols fas

Re: Orphaning dlib

2023-01-04 Thread Arthur Bols
seems to have stalled on v3. I'll probably take another look at it when v3 comes out, but for now I think copr will do. [1]: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/principis/howdy/ -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis ___ devel m

Re: Orphaning dlib

2023-01-04 Thread Arthur Bols
On 3/01/2023 20:21, Onuralp SEZER wrote: I will gladly take it, and any co-maintainers are welcome as well. Thank you for your contributions to dlib as well. Feel free to add me as a co-maintainer. I'm maintaining howdy in copr. -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: prin

License change: moolticute

2023-01-01 Thread Arthur Bols
n-1.0) AND BSD-2-Clause AND BSD-3-Clause AND MIT AND OFL-1.1 AND CC-BY-3.0 -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Condu

Review swap

2022-12-01 Thread Arthur Bols
Hi all, I have a perl package (diff-so-fancy) up for review: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2150097 I'd be happy to review something in return. -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-12-01 Thread arthur
On 28/11/2022 19:20, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: - rpms/thefuck Took it since I was a co-admin - rpms/vim-latex Took this as well -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: Review swaps

2022-06-04 Thread Arthur Bols
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2043228 Let me know if you'd like to swap (or do some of them)! Kind regards, Arthur fas: principis On 3/06/2022 21:46, Mark E. Fuller wrote: Dear all, I'm looking to package task (https://taskfile.dev/) for Fedora and would like to offer

Re: Do I have a @fedoraproject.org e-mail address ?

2022-01-21 Thread arthur
rg/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Proper_posting_style -- Arthur Bols fas/irc: principis ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-U

Re: Bugzilla email confirmation notices from FAS

2022-01-11 Thread Arthur Bols
action), but doesn't log you in. Arthur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/

Re: is there an offshoot or branch of early Fedora for simple UI

2022-01-10 Thread Arthur Bols
also just install any desktop environment you want... If you don't want to drag windows, try a tiling window manager like i3. If you like classic Gnome, try Mate. Arthur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: Review swaps

2022-01-05 Thread Arthur Bols
in desperate need of a review (and maybe didn't have time to do yours), maybe you could help them! Arthur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedor

Re: Missing ownership /usr/share/locale/ directories

2022-01-01 Thread Arthur Bols
kages which would ship translations for mo would most probably also have translations for ro. So the symlink would probably not be useful. Arthur [0] https://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_changes.php [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldovan_lan

Missing ownership /usr/share/locale/ directories

2021-12-31 Thread Arthur Bols
ue For the other directories, I sadly don't have time to look into all of them, and I think I have too little knowledge in this field. Regards, Arthur [0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2033886 [1] https://salsa.debian.org/iso-codes-team/iso-codes/-/blo

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: sjenning

2021-11-19 Thread Arthur Bols
Relevant docs: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_encouraging_comaintainers_of_packages Arthur On 19/11/2021 03:55, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 11:10 PM Arthur Bols wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if Seth Jennings (sjenning) is stil active in Fedora? I se

Non-responsive maintainer: sjenning

2021-11-18 Thread Arthur Bols
n irc (principis) or reply to this email if anyone knows anything. I'm would like to maintain pam-u2f if needed. Thanks, Arthur [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2024771 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1690777 ___ dev

Re: OpenSSH 8.7p1 in rawhide

2021-10-12 Thread Arthur G
appreciate it if you can allay my concerns by letting me know if switching to using the underlying SFTP protocol for SCP will allow per user connection limits to be applied which I feel are very important. Hope you have the answer at hand. Best regards, Arthur. On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 19:49,

Unorphaning qtpass

2021-07-07 Thread Arthur Bols
Hi all, I am claiming qtpass [0] which is currently orphaned. Kind regards, Arthur [0]: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/qtpass ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le

Re: Trivial review swap: python-configupdater

2021-07-06 Thread Arthur Bols
e. Review here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1979708 Hi Ankur, I don't have a package for the moment, but I'll review it. I think it would be better for me to start with simpler packages anyway. :) Kind regards, Arthur ___ de

Re: New RPM submission

2021-06-23 Thread Arthur Bols
heavy lifting and sign on as a co-maintainer to deal with upstream-related issues. The primary maintainer will then only have to deal with Fedora-related issues. Arthur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Self Introduction: Arthur Bols

2021-06-22 Thread Arthur Bols
Hi everyone, You may have seen me by now in the mailing lists or on IRC. Let me introduce myself. My name is Arthur Bols. I'm a Computer Science student from Belgium with a strong interest in FOSS and Linux. In 2017 I joined a student organization which strives to bring Computer Scienc

Re: F35 Change: Use yescrypt as default hashing method for shadow passwords (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-06-08 Thread Arthur G
+1 ...and many thanks for providing a very comprehensive rationale. On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 at 21:47, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 02:59:54PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > == Feedback == > +1 > > > == Benefit to Fedora == > > == Dependencies == > > * anaconda: https://g

Re: F35 Change: "Fedora Linux" in /etc/os-release

2021-03-11 Thread Arthur G
I much prefer simple things, and referring to the distribution as "Fedora" does it for me on a few levels. FNU? Perhaps in the future the Linux kernel may fall out of favour for something else, hey why not just cut to the eventual chase and call it systemd-fedora. On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 22:21, Al

Re: Fedora 33 network configuration (ifcfg*) migration guide available?

2021-02-01 Thread Arthur G
Thanks also for the nmcli tip, it got me out of a pickle today with RedHat 8. From what I've experienced so far it's well implemented. On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 08:42, Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > You can use crudini to man

Re: Fedora 33 network configuration (ifcfg*) migration guide available?

2021-01-27 Thread Arthur G
Too bad NetworkManager persists with the old MS-DOS "INI" file format for it's configuration files. At least network-scripts was bash script friendly. On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 20:53, Peter Boy wrote: > With Fedora 33 network configuration is by default persisted in > /etc/NetworkManager/system-con

Re: Fedora 34 Change proposal: Remove and deprecate nscd in favour of sssd and systemd-resolved (Self-Contained Change)

2020-11-07 Thread Arthur G
"Is there a concern or known issue that will cause systemd-resolved to not work in your setup?" I have a ton of experience with sssd and before that samba winbind so know the benefits and limitations of this software stack well. I'm new to systemd-resolved but have been reading the lively Fedora th

Re: Fedora 34 Change proposal: Remove and deprecate nscd in favour of sssd and systemd-resolved (Self-Contained Change)

2020-11-05 Thread Arthur G
"the system administrator will need to install and configure sssd to replace it after the update. Even when this is not done, the only visible affect will be slower resolution of named service queries due to a missing cache." I use nscd on a few application servers that point to unreliable DNS ser

Updating gsl to 2.4 in Rawhide on Monday

2017-07-21 Thread Arthur Mello
Hi, I will be updating gsl to 2.4 in Rawhide on Monday and will be rebuilding dependent packages. You can check bugzilla[0] for some tracking info. [0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1463022 Cheers, -- Arthur Mello Software Engineer Red Hat ame...@redhat.com

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-23 Thread Arthur G
l make the original MariaDB RPM cleaner. Arthur. On 24 January 2013 13:05, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 17:49 -0800, Andrew Rist wrote: >> but the database choice for Fedora should only focus on the merits and >> the quality of the MySQL code > > You may have read

Re: Bug 618349 : Can I get some input please?

2010-12-08 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 09:28:55PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> Bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618349 >> >> The bug is blocking my ability, or at least my willingness to upgrade >> to F

Bug 618349 : Can I get some input please?

2010-12-07 Thread Arthur Pemberton
Bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618349 The bug is blocking my ability, or at least my willingness to upgrade to F14. I would appreciate some assistance so that I can finally do the upgrade. -- Fedora 13 (www.pembo13.com) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Fedora "backports" repo? (Was Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?)

2010-09-20 Thread Arthur Pemberton
I apologize for interrupting this tread. I shall take my leave. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora "backports" repo? (Was Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?)

2010-09-20 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:58:53 -0400, you wrote: > >>2010/9/20 Micha? Piotrowski : >>> Ok, so maybe it's time to setup Fedora "backports" repo for these that >>> wants new and shiny Firefox 4, PostgreSQL 9 or whatever with big >>> number. >

Re: Fedora "backports" repo? (Was Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?)

2010-09-20 Thread Arthur Pemberton
2010/9/20 Michał Piotrowski : > 2010/9/21 Toshio Kuratomi : >> As the concept of using third party repositories (both as packagers and as >> users) grows, this interdependence will grow. > > Ok, so maybe it's time to setup Fedora "backports" repo for these that > wants new and shiny Firefox 4, Post

Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?

2010-09-20 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:13:42 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> No, I'm not advocating PgSQL 9 for F14, however, it shouldn't be so >> far-fetched that Fedora could have any software at any time. > > A Fedora update policy is being

Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?

2010-09-20 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Michel Alexandre Salim writes: >> Note: I don't think Mark was proposing to do the packaging work himself. >>  But it'd be great if whoever picks this up (Michał, are you a packager?) >> could reply to this thread, thus avoiding duplication of wo

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-17 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:01 AM, FlorianFesti wrote: >  On 09/16/2010 09:05 PM, Colin Walters wrote: >> (I don't have a strong opinion on whether the data format is RPM or >> repodata myself; maybe just a slight preference for the latter; the >> most important thing in my mind is to come to rough

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-14 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 6:28 PM, James Antill wrote: >  Ubuntu recently got high praise from LWN for "Software Center" in 10.10 > betas. It doesn't use PackageKit at all AFAICS (no PackageKit packages > are installed in my VM). It integrates tightly with apt (you know, like > showing package histo

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-08 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 14:17 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > >> Sure, I understand where you're coming from. As you see from >> app-install schema version 1 it really was least common denominator. >> But version 2, which is in progress now, fe

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:39 AM, James Antill wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 15:42 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: >> On 7 September 2010 15:23, James Antill wrote: >> >  Are you having any discussions about applications like postfix, or is >> > version 2 going to be just GUI stuff? >> >> Postfix is

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-09-01 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 04:03:17PM -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> > Where, keep in mind, "slow" is defined as twice a year, right? >> Yes. > > I think this is a remarkable definition of slow. Especial

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-31 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 15:56 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 01:26:27PM -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> > Maybe I was too long winded, or failed to communicate my point: a >> > stable

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-31 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 01:26:27PM -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> Maybe I was too long winded, or failed to communicate my point: a >> stable (bug fix only updates, slow feature release), strongly FOSS, >> strongly

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-31 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 09:58 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> On 08/30/2010 10:50 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> > The attention to freedom is not unique. The attention to upstream is >> > invisible to users. &g

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/30/10 9:50 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Jesse Keating >> wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/30/10 1:33 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> Is this still unique? > > I believe it is, particularly with our attention to freedom and upstream > relations

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/30/10 8:56 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Gerald Henriksen >> wrote: >>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:11:06 +02

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:10 AM, Jon Masters wrote: > On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 23:56 -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Gerald Henriksen >> wrote: >> > On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:11:06 +0200, you wrote: >> > >> >>A ty

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:11:06 +0200, you wrote: > >>A typical developer wants the dependencies of the software they are >>working on to be _very_ up to date - probably not the upstream >>development version, but the upstream maintenance ve

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Sven Lankes said: >> Also - and this is a question that I have asked myself and others a >> couple of times - if you could implement Fedora the way you want: What >> unique selling points are left for Fedora? "Fedora is Ubunt

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > "Thomas Janssen" wrote: > >>On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 08/28/2010 09:25 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: > The cynic in me

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote: > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 08/28/2010 09:25 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> Jesse Keating wrote: The cynic in me would expect that the people who want

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/28/2010 09:25 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Jesse Keating wrote: >>> The cynic in me would expect that the people who want something different >>> than the fire hose we have now are sile

Re: Search Engine Proposal

2010-08-29 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Manuel Escudero wrote: > AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN... http://start.fedoraproject.org/ is using a > Google Search Box... YOU DON'T HAVE THE CODE TO PLAY WITH IT OR ANYTHING... > With "Fedora's engine" I'm giving you the chance of having something more > "opensource

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-27 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Ben Boeckel wrote: > Chris Adams wrote: >> sendmail has always worked out of the box for some things, including >> sending mail from local programs to remote email addresses > > I thought this was a speed trip to spamhaus' lists (the `localhost' > part I've found)

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-27 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:04 AM, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 18:09 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: >> What more do you want an MTA to do at install?  It was decided a long >> time ago that the MTA shouldn't listen for remote SMTP connections by >> default.  Pretty much any other thing

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-26 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 05:31:58PM -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> > Useful information is being generated and then lost. That shouldn't happen. >> This is not a sudden realization, there are bugs open about this f

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-26 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 05:25:18PM -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> > We're going in circles. I already said that I think the best fix for >> > this is to replace sendmail with an MTA which works 'out of th

Re: Orphaned package: system-config-display

2010-08-26 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 03:59:06PM -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: >> > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:59 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> >> 1. Not everyone uses

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-26 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:00 -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > >> > I think that makes sense if we're talking about adding a default, but >> > taking one out - especially something that's been default in al

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-26 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 01:14 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 08/27/2010 12:20 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> > That wasn't the question. The question was what is the benefit of not >> > having one. Is it simply that it saves 1.6MB of disk

Re: Orphaned package: system-config-display

2010-08-26 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:59 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Adam Jackson wrote: >> > Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic >> > configuration tool.  gnome-display-properties should have a "set as >> > default" butt

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-17 Thread Arthur G
Thanks Dave, Here's one borrowed from the music industry. mastering (or starting with R - remastering) I've used this concept successfully for commercial orgs during their release finalizing stages. Arthur. On 18 February 2010 10:19, David wrote: > On 15 February 2010 11:19, Ar

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-14 Thread Arthur G
rolling - as in the song - rolling, rolling, rolling, rawhide! On 15 February 2010 11:06, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 09:37 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: > > Of course, if wanna keep the "gold" name for the official release path, > could rename other and use below.. > > bronze -