Re: ** Newsletter/Marketing email** Fedora-Atomic 27-20180414.0 compose check report

2018-04-16 Thread mcatanzaro
Look at the mail footer: "To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org" ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: DNSSEC, DoH, dnscrypt-proxy 1 vs 2

2018-04-08 Thread mcatanzaro
There was also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Default_Local_DNS_Resolver which was proposed for F22, but deferred twice and eventually dropped. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2018-03-15 17:00 UTC)

2018-03-15 Thread mcatanzaro
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:55 PM, James Antill wrote: #topic #694 Packaging guidelines for application independence .fpc 694 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/694 I had been hoping to attend the meeting to discuss this change, but it's been on the meeting agenda for five months now,

Re: Unannounced soname bump (Rawhide): brotli (libbrotli{common,enc,dec}.so.1.0.1 -> libbrotli{common,enc,dec}.so.1)

2018-03-06 Thread mcatanzaro
I see in the file list: %{_libdir}/*.so.* I've lost count of how many problems we've had from unannounced soname bumps recently. It's going to keep happening so long as our packaging guidelines continue to allow this construction. Anyway, the only thing better than one soname bump is a seco

Re: Test gating enabled in Bodhi

2018-03-01 Thread mcatanzaro
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 7:49 PM, Randy Barlow wrote: It does not appear to be blocked currently. There is a bug. Yesterday it was red and said tests failed; the result changed itself. I see there are many more test results now than there were yesterday. It looks like the tests had not finish

Re: Test gating enabled in Bodhi

2018-02-28 Thread mcatanzaro
I have an update here: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/epiphany-3.26.6-1.fc27 that is blocked due to some harmless translation-related warnings from desktop-file-validate. I'm not the translation police and do not plan to make any changes to the desktop file. * Who can help unblock

Re: fedora28 and strong crypto settings

2018-02-26 Thread mcatanzaro
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:26 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: Alternatively, if you want to strengthen the system crypto policy, then it should not apply to web browsers at all. Or web browsers should automatically use the weak policy. (We'd need the weak policy in glib-networking, too.) Read

Re: fedora28 and strong crypto settings

2018-02-26 Thread mcatanzaro
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: regarding the strong crypto change in Fedora28 [0], we have identified few (usually internal) sites which break under firefox or other tools. The main reason for this breakage is that these sites only support Diffie-Hellman with 102

Re: Unannounced soname bump: gnome-desktop3

2018-02-18 Thread mcatanzaro
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: gnome-desktop3 was updated a week ago to 3.27.90, which bumped ABI from .so.12 to .so.17. AFAICS no notice was given, nor am I sure that this was even noticed by the maintainer, because once again: %{_libdir}/lib*.so.* I have rebuilt

Re: Wyland is a disaster

2018-01-30 Thread mcatanzaro
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:49 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: I am currently reporting my pan-crashing-Wayland crashing issue on gnome.org---but in the true Heisenbug fashion it stopped crashing, so I can't reproduce it now. It was crashing almost every time I used the pan newsreader (the three cr

Re: Wyland is a disaster

2018-01-29 Thread mcatanzaro
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:39 PM, Per Bothner wrote: If any logs or monitoring tools would be helpful, I'll be happy to help. Please see my earlier post in this thread regarding how to get a stacktrace out of coredumpctl. If you post an issue report with a stacktrace at https://gitlab.gnome.

Re: Problems debugging problems... formerly Re: Wyland is a disaster

2018-01-24 Thread mcatanzaro
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: Can anyone suggest ways of debugging this? Run coredumpctl to see what processes crashed. There should be at least a gnome-shell crash, maybe also a gnome-session crash, maybe also an XWayland crash. Usually only the gnome-shell and g

Re: Looking for contact with Daniel Veillard libxml2 maintainer

2018-01-23 Thread mcatanzaro
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: Strange only is that looks like this bug already is known more than year! Looks like two years... I followed the chain of links in the Red Hat bugs, which claim this is already reported as https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7621

Re: Looking for contact with Daniel Veillard libxml2 maintainer

2018-01-23 Thread mcatanzaro
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: If it will be no new actions to the end of this week I'm going to raise FESCo ticket to takeover at least libxml2. Yes, libxml2 is security-critical; we can't wait this long to apply security patches. The Fedora package maintainer needs t

Re: Security updates and batched pushes

2018-01-17 Thread mcatanzaro
Thanks, Kevin. Knowing when the updates are actually going out adds important context to this discussion. On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:30 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: I don't see how this is helpful. Kevin has a point here. Clearly what we have now is, in practice, not working as intended. Micha

Re: Security updates and batched pushes

2018-01-08 Thread mcatanzaro
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: I thought for some reason that all updates marked as security were automatically urgent, maybe I'm misremembering, but if not it might be good to do that as a RFE that way all security updates go out non batched. Most security updates are

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-25 Thread mcatanzaro
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:33 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: How is the user experience for installing these kernel modules today, anyway? Does it need specialized knowledge to turn of Secure Boot in the firmware? If yes, this means that those users are pretty advanced and are likely able to de

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-22 Thread mcatanzaro
Oh boy. :) Does anyone know if the fallback is working properly? Because if so, then everyone is happy and we don't need to be having this discussion. Sounds like there's a good chance that's the case. (I don't have an nvidia card to test myself.) If the fallback is not working, then FESCo w

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-22 Thread mcatanzaro
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 8:41 AM, James Hogarth wrote: Pretty sure the last testing I did with the details form Hans's blog[0] the behaviour was that if the nvidia driver failed then the nouveau driver was a fallback (rather than the older instructions that totally blacklisted it leaving no GPU

Bugzilla auto-CC

2017-08-29 Thread mcatanzaro
Hi, Something changed yesterday and now the entire GNOME packager group is being automatically CCed to all GNOME-related bugs in Red Hat Bugzilla. There's no way to opt-out in Bugzilla preferences, at least not that I have found. Can someone undo this change please? It's not manageable, and

Re: Broken dependencies messages

2017-08-06 Thread mcatanzaro
On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: I bet this is related to the "point of contact in bugzilla" part in https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/6OIOUQGVZV4P7ECQEMNDHBLVBRF3SJLB/ although this is a side-effect other than bugzi

Broken dependencies messages

2017-08-06 Thread mcatanzaro
Hi, Since yesterday I'm getting a huge number of messages about broken dependencies in packages that I don't care about. Anybody else experiencing this? Seems I'm being aliased to, at a minimum, poppler-ow...@fedoraproject.org and empathy-ow...@fedoraproject.org... plus several more. Mich

Re: Spam

2017-07-17 Thread mcatanzaro
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: I haven't seen any spam on the devel list. I even checked my spam folder. Maybe the messages are being sent directly to you, not the list? They're being sent to 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org (whatever that is). I can see in the mail

Spam

2017-07-17 Thread mcatanzaro
Hi, Do the list admins have any plans to combat the spammers that are spoofing Kevin Fenzi to bypass the moderation queue? Could we please at least hold his messages for moderation? Maybe he could manually approve his own messages, as annoying as that would be. Though I don't know what we wo

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks

2017-07-11 Thread mcatanzaro
Hey Kevin, Thanks for your detailed response. I usually try not to read or write long mails, but I made an exception this time. :) On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Bastien Nocera wrote: Why do we care about FHS compliance inside a Flatpak? Because the proprietary dir

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