Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-11-11 Thread Rex Dieter
Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Ter, 2016-11-08 at 04:04 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> PackageKit-yum >> never used RPM groups, always comps > > So, (if we want the package have a group ) all packages should be > enumerated in comps, or not ? . Yes (in comps) -- Rex

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-11-07 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Ter, 2016-11-08 at 04:04 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > PackageKit-yum  > never used RPM groups, always comps So, (if we want the package have a group ) all packages should be enumerated in comps, or not ? .  Also we have a poor support of groups in dnf, even querytags [1] haven't group tag to

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-11-07 Thread Kevin Kofler
Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:45 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> I don't see how the text you quoted support this in any way. None of the >> KDE tools support the Group tag. (They never did.) > > That's not true. They currently do not with the Fedora backend, but in > the past they

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-11-05 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:45 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Sérgio Basto wrote: >> yeah, so the group tag shouldn't be obsolete , we should use it as >> fallback . > > I don't see how the text you quoted support this in any way. None of the KDE > tools support the Group tag.

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-11-04 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sáb, 2016-11-05 at 04:45 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > yeah, so the group tag shouldn't be obsolete , we should use it as > > fallback . > I don't see how the text you quoted support this in any way. None of > the KDE  > tools support the Group tag. (They never did.)

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-11-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Sérgio Basto wrote: > yeah, so the group tag shouldn't be obsolete , we should use it as > fallback . I don't see how the text you quoted support this in any way. None of the KDE tools support the Group tag. (They never did.) Kevin Kofler ___

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-29 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sex, 2016-10-28 at 00:23 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > Many thanks by your reply, yes or creterepo could use appdata > > directly, > > makes sense improve createrepo with appdata, btw I noticie, apper > > (kde > > software manager) on Fedora 24 fails on search groups

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-27 Thread Kevin Kofler
Sérgio Basto wrote: > Many thanks by your reply, yes or creterepo could use appdata directly, > makes sense improve createrepo with appdata, btw I noticie, apper (kde > software manager) on Fedora 24 fails on search groups with: > "SearchGroups not supported by backend" , what tools we have to

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qui, 2016-10-27 at 14:07 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On jueves, 27 de octubre de 2016 5:39:20 PM CDT Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > Hi,  > > > > On Qui, 2016-10-27 at 09:30 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 17:24 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > > > > >

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On jueves, 27 de octubre de 2016 5:39:20 PM CDT Sérgio Basto wrote: > Hi, > > On Qui, 2016-10-27 at 09:30 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 17:24 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > Hello, I'd like understand how groups of package are now detect , > > > specially in 3rd repo

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 17:39 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > Hi,  > > On Qui, 2016-10-27 at 09:30 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 17:24 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > > > Hello, I'd like understand how groups of package are now detect , > > > specially in 3rd repo

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi,  On Qui, 2016-10-27 at 09:30 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 17:24 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > Hello, I'd like understand how groups of package are now detect , > > specially in 3rd repo packages  which can't use comps.xml.  > Sure they can. Third party repos can

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 17:24 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > Hello, I'd like understand how groups of package are now detect , > specially in 3rd repo packages  which can't use comps.xml.  Sure they can. Third party repos can provide comps, and all Fedora packaging tools will use it. RPMFusion, for

[Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hello, I'd like understand how groups of package are now detect , specially in 3rd repo packages  which can't use comps.xml.  Thanks !  Forwarded Message From: Sérgio Basto To: packag...@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the