[Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-23 Thread Andre Robatino
(Sorry to respond to this out-of-thread, but gmane doesn't seem to have this thread indexed except for my original post.) Jesse Keating wrote: This is fair criticism. I believe I'm the one that started referring to these composes as release candidates more vocally. We needed a way to

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-09 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us a écrit: Chris its the teminology we have always used. each phase has a series of release candidates. for alpha we do a series of RC composes until we get one that meets the release criteria, it then becomes the alpha release. for beta we do a series of RC

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-09 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 04/09/2011 02:35 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 13:19:55 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: Would it make more sense to refer to these as Alpha Candidate, Beta Candidate and Release Candidate ? ac{1,2,3}, bc{1,2}, rc1 ? It does mean the name will

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Christopher Aillon
On 04/07/2011 08:38 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Please don't mix beta and RC together. Beta and RC are two distinct parts of the release cycle, so it's confusing to see them together, just like it would be confusing to see an announcement about alpha beta. -- devel mailing

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Friday, April 08, 2011 12:37:17 PM Christopher Aillon wrote: On 04/07/2011 08:38 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Please don't mix beta and RC together. Beta and RC are two distinct parts of the release cycle, so it's confusing to see them together, just like it would be

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 04/08/2011 06:11 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Dennis Gilmoreden...@ausil.us said: Chris its the teminology we have always used. each phase has a series of release candidates. I thought they were called test composes or TC, not RC. I dont see any reason why we cant use TC if RC

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Friday, April 08, 2011 01:11:18 PM Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us said: Chris its the teminology we have always used. each phase has a series of release candidates. I thought they were called test composes or TC, not RC. the test compose is a compose

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Christopher Aillon
On 04/08/2011 10:55 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: On Friday, April 08, 2011 12:37:17 PM Christopher Aillon wrote: On 04/07/2011 08:38 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Please don't mix beta and RC together. Beta and RC are two distinct parts of the release cycle, so it's confusing to

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Jesse Keating
On 4/8/11 12:14 PM, Christopher Aillon wrote: Its the way we do it. F13 is the earliest mention I can find mention of Beta RC on devel-list. But that doesn't really change the validity of my statement. It's confusing, and we should change it. This is fair criticism. I believe I'm the one

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 09:25:31PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On 4/8/11 12:14 PM, Christopher Aillon wrote: Its the way we do it. F13 is the earliest mention I can find mention of Beta RC on devel-list.  But that

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 13:19 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On 4/8/11 12:14 PM, Christopher Aillon wrote: Its the way we do it. F13 is the earliest mention I can find mention of Beta RC on devel-list. But that doesn't really change the validity of my statement. It's confusing, and we should

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com said: Would it make more sense to refer to these as Alpha Candidate, Beta Candidate and Release Candidate ? ac{1,2,3}, bc{1,2}, rc1 ? That sounds good to me; each is distinguished frmo the other and clearly describes what it is. -- Chris

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/08/2011 04:25 PM, mike cloaked wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: Would it make more sense to refer to these as Alpha Candidate, Beta Candidate and Release Candidate ? ac{1,2,3}, bc{1,2}, rc1 ? ... How about the sequence:

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote:  What is confusing about:         Alpha-1, Alpha-2 ... Alpha-N         Beta-1   Beta-2 Beta-N         RC-1, RC-2 ...       RC-N         Released.  Why on earth do we need a 'candidate' for a release candidate,

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 04/08/2011 02:19 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On 4/8/11 12:14 PM, Christopher Aillon wrote: Its the way we do it. F13 is the earliest mention I can find mention of Beta RC on devel-list. But that doesn't really change the validity of my statement. It's confusing, and we should change it.

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 16:37 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: Why on earth do we need a 'candidate' for a release candidate, or an alpha or beta candidate. We have ordinal numbers on them ... so just use them. .. if RC1 is lacking - fine - we'll move to RC2 ... etc. My opinion of

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Camilo Mesias
I wasn't aware of the distinction between the candidates and the naming of the files downloaded didn't help, so I think some clarification might be worthwhile. By downloading a couple of TCs I came across this problem: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694915 -Cam On Fri, Apr 8, 2011

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/08/2011 05:14 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 16:37 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: The actual pre-releases - Alpha, Beta - get distributed and promoted far and wide; they're required to meet certain quality standards to ensure Your scheme doesn't preserve the

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 17:26 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: You're absolutely right ... :-) - lack of thinking on my part Your scheme does indeed have that, as does: Builds Release --- --- Alpha-0.1,

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-08 Thread Christopher Aillon
On 04/08/2011 01:19 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: Would it make more sense to refer to these as Alpha Candidate, Beta Candidate and Release Candidate ? ac{1,2,3}, bc{1,2}, rc1 ? WFM! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

[Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now!

2011-04-07 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 15 schedule [1], Fedora 15 Beta RC1 is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for download links and testing instructions. Installation: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test Desktop: