Re: ... and Fedora 25! - Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 12:38:15PM +0200, Martin Kolman wrote: > > >    KillUserProcesses=yes > > Ouch!  Forgot about that. > BTW, was there any progress in making screen & tmux aware of this, so > that screen and tmux sessions are not killed when the user logs out or > - as in this case - the

Re: ... and Fedora 25! - Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-05 Thread Martin Kolman
On Tue, 2016-10-04 at 18:19 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: > On 10/04/2016 01:03 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > > On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 12:31:43PM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: > > > > > > > > > Can you clarify?  In what circumstances would the dnf command > > > running > > > within a screen session

Re: ... and Fedora 25! - Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 10/04/2016 01:03 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 12:31:43PM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: Can you clarify? In what circumstances would the dnf command running within a screen session not survive an X/desktop crash? KillUserProcesses=yes Ouch! Forgot about that. --

Re: ... and Fedora 25! - Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 12:31:43PM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: > On 10/04/2016 11:41 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2016-10-04 at 18:28 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: > > > or better (IMHO) - run it using `screen` ;-) > > > > I think whether that's better or not depends on exactly how the > >

Re: ... and Fedora 25! - Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 10/04/2016 11:41 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2016-10-04 at 18:28 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: or better (IMHO) - run it using `screen` ;-) I think whether that's better or not depends on exactly how the screen/tmux server process was run... Can you clarify? In what circumstances

Re: ... and Fedora 25! - Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2016-10-04 at 18:28 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: > > Recently several reports of people getting 'duplicated packages' and > > 'kernel updates not working' have come through to us in QA from Fedora > > 24 users. I managed to get one reporter to explain more specifically > > what happened, and

Re: ... and Fedora 25! - Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2016-10-04 at 18:28 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: > > Recently several reports of people getting 'duplicated packages' and > > 'kernel updates not working' have come through to us in QA from Fedora > > 24 users. I managed to get one reporter to explain more specifically > > what happened, and