On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 06:51:26PM +0200, tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote:
The ultimate software center is a web application, like Google playstore.
+1
Why to waste time creating a desktop app when this could be in the cloud
already. Plus this could be turned into a desktop web app easily,
tim.laurid...@gmail.com píše v Ne 07. 10. 2012 v 18:51 +0200:
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com
wrote:
Hi,
the possibility of Software Center in Fedora has already been
discussed
several times, last time a few month ago
Reindl Harald píše v Ne 07. 10. 2012 v 20:02 +0200:
Am 07.10.2012 19:55, schrieb drago01:
Maybe maybe not. The point is that a fancy software shop would result
into this old mother type of user consider to use fedora.
A user ultimately don't care about packages but about applications.
On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 09:32:33PM +0300, Nikos Roussos wrote:
I still haven't understand what it takes to get this started. Besides of
course from having some people dedicating some time on that. Convincing
infrastructure team is the first step? Does this need to get through FESCO
first?
Am 08.10.2012 10:49, schrieb Jiri Eischmann:
Reindl Harald píše v Ne 07. 10. 2012 v 20:02 +0200:
why have we different operating systems and distributions if all
satisfies the same user-base for every price? there is also a need
for a clean and straight forwarded linux without compromises
On 10/08/2012 10:49 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
Reindl Harald píše v Ne 07. 10. 2012 v 20:02 +0200:
Am 07.10.2012 19:55, schrieb drago01:
Maybe maybe not. The point is that a fancy software shop would result
into this old mother type of user consider to use fedora.
A user ultimately don't care
On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 16:49 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 10/08/2012 10:49 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
Reindl Harald píše v Ne 07. 10. 2012 v 20:02 +0200:
Am 07.10.2012 19:55, schrieb drago01:
Maybe maybe not. The point is that a fancy software shop would result
into this old mother type
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Nikos Roussos
comzer...@fedoraproject.orgwrote:
**
On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 16:49 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 10/08/2012 10:49 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
Reindl Harald píše v Ne 07. 10. 2012 v 20:02 +0200:
Am 07.10.2012 19:55, schrieb drago01:
Maybe maybe
On 5 October 2012 15:42, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 October 2012 16:19, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com wrote:
1) Software Center based on PackageKit by Matthias
2) Light Software Center - a new app based on PackageKit from the
beginning
3) Apper already supports
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:
[...] There needs to be web design, web
application coding, processes for getting applications in and
approved, servers and disk space for this. Those are the hardest part
and it is a blocker because if no one is
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 10:39:21PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
No one but Tim asked for a web based solution. We don't need an
application submission process either, just present the applications
we have in a more usable manner (i.e applications not packages).
The code for a native application
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 22:39:21 +0200
drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Stephen John Smoogen
smo...@gmail.com wrote:
[...] There needs to be web design, web
application coding, processes for getting applications in and
approved, servers and disk space for this.
* Matthew Miller [08/10/2012 23:04] :
Is there more?
You'll need icons, licenses, ratings, reviews and a (much) more detailed
description than the one in the .desktop file. Bonus points if you include
screenshots as well.
Emmanuel
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On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 October 2012 14:39, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com
wrote:
[...] There needs to be web design, web
application coding, processes for
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 11:09:17PM +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
Is there more?
You'll need icons, licenses, ratings, reviews and a (much) more detailed
description than the one in the .desktop file. Bonus points if you include
screenshots as well.
Oh; yes -- that's an Open Collaboration
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 03:09:38PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
Dude.. metadata has to be served from something. It has to be updated
from somewhere.. it has to have some sort of way to get to the client.
That is a web application. The software has to be stored somewhere to
Well, looks
On 8 October 2012 15:09, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 October 2012 14:39, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com
wrote:
[...] There needs to be web design, web
application coding, processes for getting
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 11:18:33PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
That is a web application.
No it isn't.
The software has to be stored somewhere to
be gotten from.. and that requires disk space, front end servers, and
other infrastructure.
This is not about a webportal just some files on
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:16:28 -0400
Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 11:18:33PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
That is a web application.
No it isn't.
The software has to be stored somewhere to
be gotten from.. and that requires disk space, front end
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com wrote:
Hi,
the possibility of Software Center in Fedora has already been discussed
several times, last time a few month ago.
I read an article about a successful Google Summer of Code project [1]
whose goal was to make
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 6:51 PM, tim.laurid...@gmail.com
tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com wrote:
Hi,
the possibility of Software Center in Fedora has already been discussed
several times, last time a few month ago.
I read
The ultimate software center is a web application, like Google playstore.
All the rating and commenting and other info, need to be centrally
maintained and it is not a good idea to try to distribute this kind of
metadata.
There shall just be a local installer to install the packages
drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
A user ultimately don't care about packages but about applications.
Other distritors are moving in this direction while we fall behind.
We should lead here like we do in other areas.
+1
I still haven't understand what it takes to get this started. Besides of
Am 07.10.2012 19:55, schrieb drago01:
Maybe maybe not. The point is that a fancy software shop would result
into this old mother type of user consider to use fedora.
A user ultimately don't care about packages but about applications.
Other distritors are moving in this direction while we fall
* Nikos Roussos [07/10/2012 20:41] :
I still haven't understand what it takes to get this started. Besides of
course from having some people dedicating some time on that. Convincing
infrastructure team is the first step? Does this need to get through FESCO
first?
You'll probably want to read
Hi,
the possibility of Software Center in Fedora has already been discussed
several times, last time a few month ago.
I read an article about a successful Google Summer of Code project [1]
whose goal was to make Software Center a distribution independent
program using PackageKit.
Matthias even
On 5 October 2012 16:19, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com wrote:
1) Software Center based on PackageKit by Matthias
2) Light Software Center - a new app based on PackageKit from the
beginning
3) Apper already supports AppStream [2]
Basically, Fedora needs to ship Appstream metadata and
On 12/07/2011 09:50 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 02:23:05PM +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Il giorno sab, 03/12/2011 alle 22.58 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi ha scritto:
Yep. This is a pseudo-bug. Because of the way people have been
interpreting the spec for .desktop files,
Il giorno gio, 08/12/2011 alle 19.41 +0100, Martin Bacovsky ha scritto:
On 12/07/2011 09:50 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 02:23:05PM +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
[...]
Except.. the URL is for a user visible string (just like a menu entry). At
least, that's what I
Il giorno sab, 03/12/2011 alle 22.58 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi ha scritto:
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 04:13:37PM +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Il giorno ven, 02/12/2011 alle 16.37 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi ha scritto:
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 09:39:31PM +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 02:23:05PM +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Il giorno sab, 03/12/2011 alle 22.58 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi ha scritto:
Yep. This is a pseudo-bug. Because of the way people have been
interpreting the spec for .desktop files, all of these provide .desktop
files where the
Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) said:
As for repodata, you mention tags, but I can't find them here, in
primary, comps or other (and I don't see anything else in mirrors).
I hit a mirror and browsed around. Here's the one for the F16 x86_64
update
repo:
On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 16:13 +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
curl -H Accept: application/json
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/applications/Terminal results in
500 Internal error
This one is not that is true and that can be fixed.
For an example of the json output see:
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
Yep. This is a pseudo-bug. Because of the way people have been
interpreting the spec for .desktop files, all of these provide .desktop
files where the name is Terminal. So they're all placed on the same
page. This could be fixed in the .desktop files (Judging from
On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 07:08:11PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
Yep. This is a pseudo-bug. Because of the way people have been
interpreting the spec for .desktop files, all of these provide .desktop
files where the name is Terminal. So they're all placed on the same
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
Looking at the pkgdb page, it looks like kdebase is only showing up for
the
Terminal app for F-12. Looking at that old package, there is a .desktop
that contains Name=Terminal there but it's not konsole:
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
Is kappfinder just using the .desktop format to keep its own database?
Kappfinder is a relict from ancient times where KDE apps would only register
themselves in KDE menus, GNOME apps would only register themselves in GNOME
menus, and everything else would usually do
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 09:39:31PM +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
packagedb seems an interesting project, for storing ratings and reviews,
and it could be a candidate to replace the Ubuntu backend. Is there some
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 10:13:49AM +0100, drago01 wrote:
I don't buy the legal problem. If we can ship the icons in the
distribution split into multiple packages we can ship them aggregated
into one as well.
You can't link icons so the license of the icons should and cannot
prevent others
Il giorno ven, 02/12/2011 alle 16.37 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi ha scritto:
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 09:39:31PM +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
packagedb seems an interesting project, for storing ratings and reviews,
and it could be a candidate to replace the Ubuntu backend. Is there some
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 04:13:37PM +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Il giorno ven, 02/12/2011 alle 16.37 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi ha scritto:
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 09:39:31PM +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
packagedb seems an interesting project, for storing ratings and reviews,
and it
On 12/01/2011 11:31 PM, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Seeing enough positive feedback on this (and seeing that after all, it
works pretty well on my machine), I started an official Fedora 17
feature. You can find it at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SoftwareCenter
Comments of course
Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Seeing enough positive feedback on this (and seeing that after all, it
works pretty well on my machine), I started an official Fedora 17
feature. You can find it at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SoftwareCenter
Comments of course welcome, before I move this
Il giorno mar, 29/11/2011 alle 08.07 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi ha scritto:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 02:23:31PM +, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 25 November 2011 23:31, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
These? app-install (and friends) still pending review it seems,
Il giorno ven, 02/12/2011 alle 22.33 +0100, Kevin Kofler ha scritto:
Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Seeing enough positive feedback on this (and seeing that after all, it
works pretty well on my machine), I started an official Fedora 17
feature. You can find it at
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 09:39:31PM +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
packagedb seems an interesting project, for storing ratings and reviews,
and it could be a candidate to replace the Ubuntu backend. Is there some
documentation somewhere? Does it provide some webservice API (REST,
JSON, SOAP,
Seeing enough positive feedback on this (and seeing that after all, it
works pretty well on my machine), I started an official Fedora 17
feature. You can find it at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SoftwareCenter
Comments of course welcome, before I move this on to be ready for
wrangler.
On 25 November 2011 23:31, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
These? app-install (and friends) still pending review it seems,
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488962
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488968
If the objections truly have been dropped, I'd be happy to
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 02:23:31PM +, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 25 November 2011 23:31, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
These? app-install (and friends) still pending review it seems,
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488962
On 11/28/2011 05:09 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 11/28/2011 01:39 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote:
It is useful to point out that the space requirements are significant.
You would want an implementation that does _not_ store all this
information on installed systems.
Separate the advertising part
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Simon Lukasik
isim...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 11/28/2011 05:09 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 11/28/2011 01:39 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote:
It is useful to point out that the space requirements are significant.
You would want an implementation that does _not_
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 09:46:59AM +0100, Simon Lukasik wrote:
On 11/28/2011 05:09 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 11/28/2011 01:39 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote:
It is useful to point out that the space requirements are significant.
You would want an implementation that does _not_ store all this
Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Well, I'm happy to see that some spec files are translated. In fact, I
found out some packages have translations, but those are only visible
from yum, not PackageKit (no matter how you insist).
That's odd. gpk-application displays them to me.
Björn Persson
On 11/25/2011 06:18 PM, drago01 wrote:
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Brendan Jones
brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/26/2011 12:03 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
As promised in my previous mail, here is what I find that's lacking in
Fedora, compared to the direct competition (Ubuntu,
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 08:09 -0500, Chris Evich wrote:
On 11/25/2011 06:18 PM, drago01 wrote:
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Brendan Jones
brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/26/2011 12:03 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
As promised in my previous mail, here is what I find that's
- Original Message -
From: Giovanni Campagna scampa.giova...@gmail.com
To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:03:27 AM
Subject: A software center for Fedora
As promised in my previous mail, here is what I find that's lacking
in
Fedora, compared
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 02:26:44 +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
(3) He is not going to wait for installation of new games to try them.
He wants to just click and run the game - like he does with Flash games,
immediately.
I have no problem running there:
yum --setopt
Il giorno dom, 27/11/2011 alle 02.06 +0100, Björn Persson ha scritto:
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
Can someone help me understand whats being asked for here? I can only
guess that I'm not the only person confused by this thread.
Icons. The only thing I can see that Giovanni has mentioned that
Il giorno dom, 27/11/2011 alle 03.08 -0500, Aleksandar Kurtakov ha
scritto:
[...]
IIRC and think about the same package - this was a package containing data
that is part of repos metadata,
without any idea how it would be for kept uptodate with latest packages. From
time to time
Il giorno sab, 26/11/2011 alle 10.05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram ha scritto:
On 11/26/2011 04:33 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
I hope that some people from the relevant group will point me to the
right place (perhaps starting from what happened to
fedora-app-install...), and I hope you like the
Il giorno ven, 25/11/2011 alle 17.31 -0600, Rex Dieter ha scritto:
Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Long long ago (march 2009), a package was proposed for inclusion, which
contained application data, in a format understood by software-center,
for fedora at that time. This package was initially
On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
well, if people who not going to read any textes are the primary
target of a operationg system this world is going down
Welcome to the real world.
Rahul
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Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
well, if people who not going to read any textes are the primary
target of a operationg system this world is going down
Welcome to the real world.
i know and it is sad enough as it is now
but is
Am 27.11.2011 16:01, schrieb Reindl Harald:
Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
well, if people who not going to read any textes are the
primary target of a operationg system this world is going down
Welcome to the real world.
i
Il giorno dom, 27/11/2011 alle 16.18 +0100, Heiko Adams ha scritto:
Am 27.11.2011 16:01, schrieb Reindl Harald:
Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
well, if people who not going to read any textes are the
primary target of a
On 11/27/2011 08:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
well, if people who not going to read any textes are the primary
target of a operationg system this world is going down
Welcome to the real world.
i
On 11/27/2011 08:48 PM, Heiko Adams wrote:
And a software center is IMHO walking in the wrong direction. The
packagemanagement system is Linux biggest advantage for normal users.
Do you understand that software centre is just a UI on top of the
package manager + additional metadata like
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:00:45 +0530
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/27/2011 08:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
well, if people who not going to read any textes are the primary
On 11/27/2011 09:20 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote:
I think this is going a little far. Saying that people are better off
being able to read is not elitist.
Yes it is. Because you are assuming that it is because people have
trouble reading. I can read just fine but I would love to have
screenshots
Giovanni Campagna wrote:
We also need translations (that are in .desktop files
but not in .spec files),
Looky here, a spec file with translations:
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=mine_detector.git;a=blob;f=mine_detector.spec;h=294bcf4148789afb1ba7bb7b11971e231e001061;hb=master
Making
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 02:06:51AM +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
Can someone help me understand whats being asked for here? I can only
guess that I'm not the only person confused by this thread.
Icons. The only thing I can see that Giovanni has mentioned that
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:06:33 +0530
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/27/2011 09:20 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote:
I think this is going a little far. Saying that people are better
off being able to read is not elitist.
Yes it is. Because you are assuming that it is because
On 11/28/2011 12:01 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote:
Call me elitist then, I think it is better when more people can read,
and when they actually do it.
Unfortunately for someone talking about so much about the important of
reading, you don't seem to be reading about the proposal much. Its not
Il giorno dom, 27/11/2011 alle 18.47 +0100, Björn Persson ha scritto:
Giovanni Campagna wrote:
We also need translations (that are in .desktop files
but not in .spec files),
Looky here, a spec file with translations:
On 11/27/2011 04:47 PM, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
I knew about that, and that's in fact what I'm starting from, although
the big problem is obtaining the metadata, not showing it.
So, the next logical question would be, how does openSUSE solve this?
Rahul
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:09:46 +0530
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/28/2011 12:01 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote:
Call me elitist then, I think it is better when more people can
read, and when they actually do it.
Unfortunately for someone talking about so much about the
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 12:19:21 +0100
Giovanni Campagna scampa.giova...@gmail.com wrote:
The fedora-app-install review was brought to FESCo
(https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/469), which agreed to ship the
package, but then nothing happened.
Just to be clear, FESCo agreed that the package
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com wrote:
Removing the screenshots, icons, popularity vote results etc etc
post-install is not a good solution. These things should be available
when someone wants to look at them, not installed by default.
The mechanisms to
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 02:06:51AM +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
Can someone help me understand whats being asked for here? I can
only
guess that I'm not the only person confused by this thread.
Icons. The only thing I can see that Giovanni has mentioned that
On 11/28/2011 01:39 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote:
It is useful to point out that the space requirements are significant.
You would want an implementation that does _not_ store all this
information on installed systems.
Separate the advertising part from the packaging part. Make the
On 25/11/11 23:24, Heiko Adams wrote:
Would you jump from a building too if ubuntu guys are doing?
In other words: copying every idea - no matter how stupid - just
because ubuntu is doing it, doesn't bring any benifit to fedora IMHO.
Or do we already have unity as primary desktop too, like
Il giorno sab, 26/11/2011 alle 01.27 +0100, Florian Müllner ha scritto:
While I agree that our app-install story sucks, I'm far less convinced that
we need yet-another-downstream solution.
This is not really a downstream solution. Since OpenSuse GSoC 2011,
software-center can interact with
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Am 26.11.2011 00:03, schrieb Giovanni Campagna:
I hope that some people from the relevant group will point me to the
right place (perhaps starting from what happened to
fedora-app-install...), and I hope you like the idea in general.
Giovanni
Am 26.11.2011 00:28, schrieb Giovanni Campagna:
Or you have any reason to say that this is idea is stupid?
the biggest benefit of a linux-distribution is a consistent package-managment
with straight dependencies and centralized repos, if you mean a additionak GUI
for this - fine
if we speak
On 11/26/2011 05:07 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 26.11.2011 00:28, schrieb Giovanni Campagna:
Or you have any reason to say that this is idea is stupid?
the biggest benefit of a linux-distribution is a consistent package-managment
with straight dependencies and centralized repos, if you
Reindl Harald wrote:
the biggest benefit of a linux-distribution is a consistent
package-managment with straight dependencies and centralized repos, if you
mean a additionak GUI for this - fine
if we speak about crap installing applications outside the rpm-database it
would be the worst
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Laurin lin...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
I totally agree with you, a software center would be a really nice idea,
also for more experienced user because they can browse easily through the
available software and may find something interesting.
I am really confused
Giovanni Campagna wrote:
While we do have two nice UIs (gpk-application and apper) for package
management, having to deal with packages, with no icons and no
translations is not appropriate for end users.
We do have translations of the fields that it's meaningful to translate –
summary and
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
Can someone help me understand whats being asked for here? I can only
guess that I'm not the only person confused by this thread.
Icons. The only thing I can see that Giovanni has mentioned that Packagekit
doesn't provide is icons. Presumably he wants each application's
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:40:58 +0100, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
Here is what my F14 laptop has:
http://people.xiph.org/~greg/packagekit.png
It can be configured to only show end-user graphical applications
That's not enough. I use my grandfather unaffected by prior MS-Windows
experience as a
Am 27.11.2011 02:26, schrieb Jan Kratochvil:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:40:58 +0100, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
Here is what my F14 laptop has:
http://people.xiph.org/~greg/packagekit.png
It can be configured to only show end-user graphical applications
That's not enough. I use my grandfather
)
What is missing, though, is the data, representing the applications
available in fedora repositories.
Long long ago (march 2009), a package was proposed for inclusion, which
contained application data, in a format understood by software-center,
for fedora at that time. This package was initially
On 11/26/2011 12:03 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
As promised in my previous mail, here is what I find that's lacking in
Fedora, compared to the direct competition (Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSuse),
and recently even some proprietary systems: we don't have an application
installer.
Are we in a race?
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Brendan Jones
brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/26/2011 12:03 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
As promised in my previous mail, here is what I find that's lacking in
Fedora, compared to the direct competition (Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSuse),
and recently even
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Am 26.11.2011 00:18, schrieb drago01:
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Brendan Jones
brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/26/2011 12:03 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
As promised in my previous mail, here is what I find that's
lacking in
Since this is free software, we already have a complete software center
available, straight from launchpad.net/software-center.
(Actually, it doesn't yet work on Fedora, partly because of unmet
dependencies, but those are just technical bugs, and I don't think it
would be difficult to have
Il giorno sab, 26/11/2011 alle 00.24 +0100, Heiko Adams ha scritto:
Am 26.11.2011 00:18, schrieb drago01:
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Brendan Jones
brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/26/2011 12:03 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
As promised in my previous mail, here is what I
Giovanni Campagna wrote:
Long long ago (march 2009), a package was proposed for inclusion, which
contained application data, in a format understood by software-center,
for fedora at that time. This package was initially rejected, then one
year later FESCo ruled that it did not actually break
Giovanni Campagna wrote:
While we do have two nice UIs (gpk-application and apper) for package
management, having to deal with packages, with no icons and no
translations is not appropriate for end users. Instead, I think it would
be appriopriate to follow the Ubuntu path and recognize the
While I agree that our app-install story sucks, I'm far less convinced that
we need yet-another-downstream solution.
Florian
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