Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-02-05 Thread Florian Weimer
On 01/05/2017 11:36 PM, Lukas Slebodnik wrote: On 01/05/2017 08:19 PM, Lukas Slebodnik wrote: Even if we had this capability, I'm not sure if we would use it in rawhide. It could considerably increase the size of the dependency information. You would remove "temporary versions" with official

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-05 Thread Lukas Slebodnik
> On 01/05/2017 08:19 PM, Lukas Slebodnik wrote: > > Even if we had this capability, I'm not sure if we would use it in > rawhide. It could considerably increase the size of the dependency > information. > You would remove "temporary versions" with official release. I know it's not ideal and

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-05 Thread Florian Weimer
On 01/05/2017 08:19 PM, Lukas Slebodnik wrote: I think that we need to wait for https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1320954 Even if we had this capability, I'm not sure if we would use it in rawhide. It could considerably increase the size of the dependency information. But I

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-05 Thread Lukas Slebodnik
I think that we need to wait for https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1320954 But I think it still would be good to to at least rebuild images. LS ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 09:22:52AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Sure - but you talked about cherry-picking "an update", not "a > package". Cherry picking *packages* from updates-testing is not > required to work (or fail 'correctly' due to a dependency), no, but > cherry-picking *updates* more

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2017-01-03 at 08:46 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 08:43:37PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I think officially, we don't "support" anything but all-or-nothing > > > upgrades in *all* branches. That is, if you cherry-pick an update from > > > updates (or even

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 08:43:37PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > I think officially, we don't "support" anything but all-or-nothing > > upgrades in *all* branches. That is, if you cherry-pick an update from > > updates (or even updates-testing) and it also needs some other package > > to be

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-03 Thread Lukas Slebodnik
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 08:08:32AM -, Lukas Slebodnik wrote: > > But there is nothing that can be done about it. The symbol versions come > from upstream, every release that adds new symbols adds new symbol version, > and we do want to test glibc before it is released, we can't just wait

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-03 Thread Lukas Slebodnik
> It has nothing to do with rawhide. It is a best practice how to use > map symbols/version script and to have stable API/ABI > https://www.akkadia.org/drepper/dsohowto.pdf > > quote: > > I know it is not a high critical issue and therefore I suggested (in BZ) to > to automatically rebuild

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-03 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 08:08:32AM -, Lukas Slebodnik wrote: > > On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 20:43 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > ...but to expand on that, that's for stable releases. So far as Rawhide > > is concerned, historically my understanding has been the same as > > Florian's, we

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-03 Thread Lukas Slebodnik
> On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 20:43 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > ...but to expand on that, that's for stable releases. So far as Rawhide > is concerned, historically my understanding has been the same as > Florian's, we haven't ever claimed that dependencies will be so > comprehensive that you can

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 20:43 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 09:37 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 02:29:47PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > We received a bug report that generated RPM dependencies are too > > > coarse in rawhide (#1409557). > > >

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 09:37 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 02:29:47PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > We received a bug report that generated RPM dependencies are too > > coarse in rawhide (#1409557). > > > > The bug report is correct at a technical level. But I assumed

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-02 Thread Lukas Slebodnik
> On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 02:29:47PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > I think officially, we don't "support" anything but all-or-nothing > upgrades in *all* branches. That is, if you cherry-pick an update from > updates (or even updates-testing) and it also needs some other package > to be

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-02 Thread Lukas Slebodnik
> On 01/02/2017 05:22 PM, Lukas Slebodnik wrote: > The bug is in the user-supplied container build scripts. Recommended > practice is to run “dnf update” (or “yum update”) as part of the build > process. Could you provide some link where it is recommended? Because most of pages say exactly

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-02 Thread Florian Weimer
On 01/02/2017 05:22 PM, Lukas Slebodnik wrote: I know it is not a high critical issue and therefore I suggested (in BZ) to to automatically rebuild docker base image for such change in glibc in rawhide. It would not fix the problem but it would reduce potential bugs. And in future we might

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-02 Thread Lukas Slebodnik
> On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 02:29:47PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > This is rawhide, if it breaks, people should keep the pieces. > We shouldn't > change what we do with symbol versions just because of it. > It has nothing to do with rawhide. It is a best practice how to use map

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-02 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 09:37:01AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 02:29:47PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > We received a bug report that generated RPM dependencies are too > > coarse in rawhide (#1409557). > > > > The bug report is correct at a technical level. But I

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 02:29:47PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > We received a bug report that generated RPM dependencies are too > coarse in rawhide (#1409557). > > The bug report is correct at a technical level. But I assumed that > it was not a problem because partial upgrades are in rawhide

Re: Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-02 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 02:29:47PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > We received a bug report that generated RPM dependencies are too coarse in > rawhide (#1409557). > > The bug report is correct at a technical level. But I assumed that it was > not a problem because partial upgrades are in rawhide

Are partial upgrades expected to work in rawhide?

2017-01-02 Thread Florian Weimer
We received a bug report that generated RPM dependencies are too coarse in rawhide (#1409557). The bug report is correct at a technical level. But I assumed that it was not a problem because partial upgrades are in rawhide are not supported—it's always all-or-nothing. Comments? Thanks,