Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 10:38 -0500, Miloslav Trmač wrote: There is in fact no strict *technical* requirement for anything to move from yum to dnf in F22. yum will remain in the F22 package set, it is not being removed. However, the Change seems to me to have been written with the

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-28 Thread Miloslav Trmač
There is in fact no strict *technical* requirement for anything to move from yum to dnf in F22. yum will remain in the F22 package set, it is not being removed. However, the Change seems to me to have been written with the basic idea that yum shouldn't be installed by default any more and

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-27 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 01:26 +, Naheem Zaffar wrote: On 26 January 2015 at 22:52, Will Woods wwo...@redhat.com wrote: (As an aside, PackageKit should also support these operations, so we can use PackageKit to make a Upgrade GUI Thing.) Gnome

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-27 Thread Peter Robinson
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF says nothing about fedup. However, fedup uses yum: Seems like fedup is only used on Fedora 21 and older to upgrade to Fedora 22. So dnf support would be needed to get Fedora 22 to fedup to Fedora 23. No? I

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-27 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF says nothing about fedup. However, fedup uses yum: Seems like fedup is only used on Fedora 21 and older to upgrade to Fedora 22. So dnf

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-27 Thread Jan Zelený
On 26. 1. 2015 at 17:52:36, Will Woods wrote: On Mon, 2015-01-26 at 13:26 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: I note the ReplaceYumWithDnf Change page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF says nothing about fedup. However, fedup uses yum: [adamw@adam fedup (master

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-27 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - On Mon, 2015-01-26 at 14:37 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I note the ReplaceYumWithDnf Change

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-27 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 01/27/2015 08:57 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Sure...and that means the upgrade tools included in F22 should be DNF- based. Because they'll be the ones used to upgrade to F23. We already shipped the upgrade tools in F21 But you can deliver that code via updates. Planning upgrades from F22

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I note the ReplaceYumWithDnf Change page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF says nothing about fedup.

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I note the ReplaceYumWithDnf Change page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF says nothing about fedup. However, fedup uses yum: Seems like fedup is only used on Fedora 21 and older to

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-26 Thread Naheem Zaffar
On 26 January 2015 at 22:52, Will Woods wwo...@redhat.com wrote: (As an aside, PackageKit should also support these operations, so we can use PackageKit to make a Upgrade GUI Thing.) Gnome Software has had some interesting work done in the 3.16 cycle to handle upgrades. For atleast the

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-26 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 01/26/2015 10:26 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Has this been considered yet? Should porting fedup to dnf be in the scope of this Change? Does that affect its practicability for F22? I was thinking about this in past beacuse I maintain fedora-upgrade(8). If DNF is default for F22, then IMO all

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 08:44 +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: On 01/26/2015 10:26 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Has this been considered yet? Should porting fedup to dnf be in the scope of this Change? Does that affect its practicability for F22? I was thinking about this in past beacuse I

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-26 Thread Will Woods
On Mon, 2015-01-26 at 13:26 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: I note the ReplaceYumWithDnf Change page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF says nothing about fedup. However, fedup uses yum: [adamw@adam fedup (master %)]$ grep -R yum * | wc -l 74 Has this been

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2015-01-26 at 17:52 -0500, Will Woods wrote: On Mon, 2015-01-26 at 13:26 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: I note the ReplaceYumWithDnf Change page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF says nothing about fedup. However, fedup uses yum: [adamw@adam fedup

Re: DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2015-01-26 at 14:37 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I note the ReplaceYumWithDnf Change page:

DNF replacing yum: fedup?

2015-01-26 Thread Adam Williamson
I note the ReplaceYumWithDnf Change page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF says nothing about fedup. However, fedup uses yum: [adamw@adam fedup (master %)]$ grep -R yum * | wc -l 74 Has this been considered yet? Should porting fedup to dnf be in the scope of this