Re: DVD as repo

2010-05-11 Thread Richard Hughes
On 10 May 2010 22:15, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: > According to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435625#c21 > policykit doesn't allow the yum backend of PackageKit (which is running as > root) to mount devices. That was the case a long time ago, but that's not been true for very many mon

Re: DVD as repo

2010-05-10 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Matthias Clasen */ wrote on 05/10/2010 5:59:56 PM +0450: On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 17:58 +0430, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: Anyway, thinking about the problem with DeviceKit system policies, I really feel that the current situation is flawed: a process running as root is able to mount a devic

Re: DVD as repo

2010-05-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On 10/05/10 14:28, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: --snip-- > > Anyway, thinking about the problem with DeviceKit system policies, I > really feel that the current situation is flawed: a process running as > root is able to mount a device either by calling mount system call or by > running the mount comm

Re: DVD as repo

2010-05-10 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 17:58 +0430, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: > > Anyway, thinking about the problem with DeviceKit system policies, I > really feel that the current situation is flawed: a process running as > root is able to mount a device either by calling mount system call or > by running the mo

Re: DVD as repo

2010-05-10 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Frank Murphy */ wrote on 05/10/2010 5:11:13 PM +0450: On 10/05/10 13:28, Rahul Sundaram wrote: PackageKit developers disagree with you. Since they are the ones doing the work involved, their opinion has more weight. Besides a static repo file is less flexible than the ability for Pack

Re: DVD as repo

2010-05-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On 10/05/10 13:28, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > PackageKit developers disagree with you. Since they are the ones doing > the work involved, their opinion has more weight. Besides a static repo > file is less flexible than the ability for PackageKit to handle media > dynamically. Meanwhile, you c

Re: DVD as repo was Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/10/2010 05:43 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Neither is fixing the RFE for PK, as it's notabug. > But I firmly believe > creting a text file, is the easier\maybe safer challenge. > PackageKit developers disagree with you. Since they are the ones doing the work involved, their opinion has more

Re: DVD as repo was Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On 10/05/10 13:10, Rahul Sundaram wrote: --snip-- > > DVD repo is clearly not part of fedora-release at the moment. We are > talking about the current reality. If you file a RFE and get > fedora-release updated, then it will become easier but that is not the > case now. > > Rahul Neither is

Re: DVD as repo was Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/10/2010 05:36 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 10/05/10 13:02, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > --snipp-- > > >> DVD repo does NOT show up automatically in the repository listing when >> you install gnome-packagekit-extras. >> > I said if DVD.repo is releases with fedora-release* > it *will* sho

Re: DVD as repo was Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On 10/05/10 13:02, Rahul Sundaram wrote: --snipp-- > > DVD repo does NOT show up automatically in the repository listing when > you install gnome-packagekit-extras. I said if DVD.repo is releases with fedora-release* it *will* show up in default There are manual fiddling involved > in setting

Re: DVD as repo was Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/10/2010 05:22 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 10/05/10 1 > How can you not click if it shows up in > gnome-packagekit-extra? > (admin/software/sources) > > Will not the packages be availabel in add\remove? > > They are on my tests. > > No user intervention required. > (allow for the fact my test

Re: DVD as repo was Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On 10/05/10 12:48, Rahul Sundaram wrote: --snipp-- >>> >> How is it not as easy? >> > > It is not a click through process. > > Rahul How can you not click if it shows up in gnome-packagekit-extra? (admin/software/sources) Will not the packages be availabel in add\remove? They are on my

Re: DVD as repo was Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/10/2010 05:06 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 10/05/10 12:25, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > --snip-- > >>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-May/135944.html >>> Should work for F13+ >>> even for new users. >>> >>> >> What you describe is not as easy as enabling any other

Re: DVD as repo was Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On 10/05/10 12:25, Rahul Sundaram wrote: --snip-- >> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-May/135944.html >> Should work for F13+ >> even for new users. >> > > What you describe is not as easy as enabling any other repository How is it not as easy? fedora-release*rpm contains re

Re: DVD as repo was Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/10/2010 04:48 PM, Frank Murphy wrote > Hi Rahul, > Check my reply from 11:04 > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-May/135944.html > Should work for F13+ > even for new users. > What you describe is not as easy as enabling any other repository and there is no reason it sho

Re: DVD as repo was Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On 10/05/10 12:10, Rahul Sundaram wrote: --snip-- >> All it takes is adding method to wiki. >> "How to use DVD\CD as repo >> > > Frank, > > We are trying to make the process easier by making it a click through > process. It doesn't help if you insist that it can be done manually. > Everyone

Re: DVD as repo was Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/10/2010 02:46 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Look earlier in the thread, > how to mount a DVD as a repo has been demonstrated. > > All it takes is adding method to wiki. > "How to use DVD\CD as repo > Frank, We are trying to make the process easier by making it a click through process. It do

Re: DVD as repo was Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On 10/05/10 10:54, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 05/10/2010 10:16 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: --snip-- >> >> Look earlier in the thread, >> how to mount a DVD as a repo has been demonstrated. > > Yes, it has. And it's more difficult that installing from the repos. > Which was my point. > > Andrew. But t

Re: DVD as repo was Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-10 Thread Andrew Haley
On 05/10/2010 10:16 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 10/05/10 10:08, Andrew Haley wrote: > --snip-- >> >> This is a bad argument IMO. Many users are advanced in some areas, >> but not others. The whole idea that "Fedora is a distro for advanced >> users therefore it should be hard to use" is absurd.

DVD as repo was Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On 10/05/10 10:08, Andrew Haley wrote: --snip-- > > This is a bad argument IMO. Many users are advanced in some areas, > but not others. The whole idea that "Fedora is a distro for advanced > users therefore it should be hard to use" is absurd. How is it hard to use? excl. patented stuff. I c