On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 01:00:19PM -0600, Larry Vaden wrote:
> Further, interesting (to me) results are below the sig and I would
> like your guidance on which package to file against.
What is happening here? Did you make any changes in the ntpdate
sysconfig file or the systemd unit file?
If the
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>
>
> The fallback mode is supposed to "mimick" the gnome-shell behaviour,
> within its limited abilities. You won't be able to move the applets, or
> fiddle around with it. Think of it as a cut-down version of the shell.
>
> If you see things
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 10:37 +0100, drago01 wrote:
>
>> > This bug only seems to address the overshooting issue but not the real
>> > problem of the icon moving away from you mouse pointer. If the appearing
>> > label or summary notification
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 10:37 +0100, drago01 wrote:
> > This bug only seems to address the overshooting issue but not the real
> > problem of the icon moving away from you mouse pointer. If the appearing
> > label or summary notification would be considered part of the clickable
> > area for the ico
On 02/28/2011 07:32 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> This is a very valid point - the trail of complaints are largely gnome
> issues (design, bugs whatever)
>
> What should we fedorans be discussing then ?
There are a number of other changes in Fedora and many of them directly
related to Fedora inte
On 02/28/2011 01:46 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> These are all rather 'GNOME 3 impressions' than 'F15 Alpha impressions'.
> It's probably going to help more to raise them on GNOME mailing lists,
> or the Fedora desktop mailing list.
Mangled Billy Shakespear
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 10:06 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:20 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
> > On 02/27/2011 03:55 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > >
> > > When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
> > > I see in the task window/panel or wh
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 10:46 +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> On 02/28/2011 08:43 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 23:18 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> >> On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:03:02 +0100, drago01 wrote:
> >>
> Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be "all or
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 3:26 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
wrote:
> On 02/27/2011 06:36 PM, drago01 wrote:
> I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
> tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.
I think the general problem here is
On 02/28/2011 08:43 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 23:18 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:03:02 +0100, drago01 wrote:
>>
Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be "all or nothing",
that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries
use over the time and at least it would
> tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.
These are all rather 'GNOME 3 impressions' than 'F15 Alpha impressions'.
It's probably going to help more to raise them on GNOME mailing lists,
or the Fedora deskto
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 23:18 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:03:02 +0100, drago01 wrote:
>
> > > Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be "all or nothing",
> > > that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
> > > features alive.
> >
> >
2011/2/27 drago01:
> In your case you should define "broken" and put that into bugzilla ...
> which might end up being more productive than that post ;)
A related bug report (#643700) has actually been around in Red Hat
Bugzilla since last fall, thus your criticism is quite bold. I would
actually
On 02/27/2011 06:36 PM, drago01 wrote:
I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.
>>>
>>> I think the general problem here is that with the advent of tablet and
>>> other touchscreen driven devi
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:03:02 +0100, drago01 wrote:
> > Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be "all or nothing",
> > that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
> > features alive.
>
> Well the primary purpose of the fallback is to home something for
> devi
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Christoph Frieben
wrote:
> 2011/2/27 Michael Schwendt:
>> Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be "all or nothing",
>> that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
>> features alive.
>
> Currently, the suspend-resume cycle is
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:43:54 +0100, drago01 wrote:
>
>> >> Have you tried right-click?
>> >
>> > Right-click is flawed, as it doesn't offer to start the app if no instance
>> > of
>> > the app is running already:
>> >
>> > http://lists.
2011/2/27 Michael Schwendt:
> Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be "all or nothing",
> that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
> features alive.
Currently, the suspend-resume cycle is broken even on mainstream
hardware e.g. using the r300g driver. For
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:43:54 +0100, drago01 wrote:
> >> Have you tried right-click?
> >
> > Right-click is flawed, as it doesn't offer to start the app if no instance
> > of
> > the app is running already:
> >
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-February/097333.html
> >
> > To
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:15:40 +0200, Aurimas wrote:
>
>> >> I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is
>> >> supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is
>> >> already running but inst
On Sun, 27.02.11 13:00, Larry Vaden (va...@texoma.net) wrote:
> A n00b to Fedora (well, since F3 days, now testing F15 Alpha 2), I
> want to file with BugZilla and notice you are involved with some of
> the packages involved.
Please direct questions like this to the fedora test list or a similar
On 02/27/2011 02:41 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
Rumor has it (coff coff) that gnome was infiltrated by kde developers
trying to get their users back
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:15:40 +0200, Aurimas wrote:
> >> I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is
> >> supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is
> >> already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an
> >> insta
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>> I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is
>> supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is
>> already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an
>> instance is a
2011/2/27 Kevin Fenzi :
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:52:36 +0100
> Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>
>> One impression - this version will be really feature rich :)
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FeatureList
>>
>> I wonder just why this feature
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CloudFS
>> fell fr
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
>
> I have already reassigned it to gdm. The backtrace was generated in
> gdm-simple-chooser code and hence should probably be fixed in gdm.
Guten tag, Lennart.
Please excuse me --- if intolerably poor netiquette, please hit DELETE now.
On 02/27/2011 10:20 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
> I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is
> supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is
> already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an
> instance is alr
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:52:36 +0100
Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> One impression - this version will be really feature rich :)
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FeatureList
>
> I wonder just why this feature
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CloudFS
> fell from the list?
See https://fedoraho
On Sun, 27.02.11 19:00, Christoph Frieben (christoph.frie...@googlemail.com)
wrote:
> 2011/2/27 Lennart Poettering:
> > libcanberra? What makes you think lc is involved here?
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680605 ← that doesn't really
> > suggest any libcanberra involvement.
2011/2/27 Lennart Poettering:
> libcanberra? What makes you think lc is involved here?
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680605 ← that doesn't really
> suggest any libcanberra involvement.
You are correct, the cited workaround from bug 680605 was partially
superfluous: downgrading
-
One impression - this version will be really feature rich :)
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FeatureList
I wonder just why this feature
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CloudFS
fell from the list?
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On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
> Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
> releases (F14 or below).
>
> When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
> I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top. I can't tell Fir
On Sun, 27.02.11 16:37, Christoph Frieben (christoph.frie...@googlemail.com)
wrote:
> 2011/2/27 Michał Piotrowski:
> > Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
> > system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?
>
> You have to downgrade your
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:20 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
>> On 02/27/2011 03:55 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
>> >
>> > When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
>> > I see in the task window/panel or whatever
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 11:23 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 02/27/2011 09:55 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:
> >
> > I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
> > tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.
> >
>
> try:
>
> $ gsettings set org.gnom
Mike Chambers wrote:
> Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
> releases (F14 or below).
freetype-2.4.4-3.fc15 :
* Sun Feb 20 2011 Marek Kasik 2.4.4-3
- Enable bytecode interpreter (#547532).
- Fall back to autohinting if a TTF/OTF doesn't contain any bytecode.
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On 02/27/2011 09:55 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:
>
> I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
> tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.
>
try:
$ gsettings set org.gnome.shell.clock show-date true
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On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:20 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
> On 02/27/2011 03:55 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
> >
> > When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
> > I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top. I can't tell Firefox
> > or anything is running, u
2011/2/27 Christoph Frieben :
> 2011/2/27 Michał Piotrowski:
>> Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
>> system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?
>
> You have to downgrade your system to
Thanks for the tip, I'll try it later
>
> accou
2011/2/27 Michał Piotrowski:
> Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
> system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?
You have to downgrade your system to
accountsservice-libs-0.6.3-3.fc15
accountsservice-0.6.3-3.fc15
libcanberra-0.27-1.fc1
2011/2/27 Mike Chambers :
> On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:06 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>
>> Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
>> system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?
>
> Yep, try removing the at-spi2* packages (it only removes
On 02/27/2011 03:55 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
> Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
> releases (F14 or below).
Yes the font rendering makes applications look significantly more ugly then
under F14. That was the first thing I noticed after starting Firefox.
> When i
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:06 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
> system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?
Yep, try removing the at-spi2* packages (it only removes bout 5 total or
so) and see if tha
Hi,
2011/2/27 Mike Chambers :
> Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
> releases (F14 or below).
>
> When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
> I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top. I can't tell Firefox
> or anything is ru
Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
releases (F14 or below).
When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top. I can't tell Firefox
or anything is running, unleses I click on the Activities l
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