Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/2014 07:28 PM, Rob K wrote: On 10/04/2014 7:50 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: +1 - What are 'server roles'? Are we just reinventing Ansible/Puppet/et al here? Yeah, why is someone spending time creating a new Fedora-specific configuration

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-09 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:48 PM, William Brown will...@firstyear.id.au wrote: == Detailed Description == A new D-Bus service will be made available, exposing available server roles, making it possible to deploy, configure and manage them. Appropriate functionality will also be exposed as a

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-09 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/08/2014 07:22 AM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Framework for Server

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-09 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/2014 06:02 AM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/08/2014 07:22 AM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Jaroslav

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-09 Thread drago01
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/2014 06:02 AM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-09 Thread David Malcolm
On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 08:45 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On 04/09/2014 06:02 AM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/08/2014 07:22 AM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-09 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/2014 05:54 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:48 PM, William Brown will...@firstyear.id.au mailto:will...@firstyear.id.au wrote: == Detailed Description == A new D-Bus service will be made available, exposing

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-09 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Rob Kearey r...@ningaui.net wrote: This Change, as written, is *extremely* vague, moreso that most other changes that are filed for Fedora. Is it intended to be updated with more information when that becomes available? +1 - What are 'server roles'? Are we just

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-09 Thread Rob K
On 10/04/2014 7:50 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: +1 - What are 'server roles'? Are we just reinventing Ansible/Puppet/et al here? Yeah, why is someone spending time creating a new Fedora-specific configuration management system rather than just shipping an Ansible playbook or a Salt formula or

F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-08 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FrameworkForServerRoleDeployment Change owner(s): Miloslav Trmač mitr AT volny DOT cz, Fedora Server Working Group server AT lists DOT fedoraproject DOT org Responsible WG: Server A

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-08 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FrameworkForServerRoleDeployment Change owner(s): Miloslav Trmač mitr AT volny DOT cz, Fedora Server Working

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-08 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/08/2014 07:22 AM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment =

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 12:53:59PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FrameworkForServerRoleDeployment Change owner(s): Miloslav Trmač mitr AT volny DOT cz, Fedora Server Working Group

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-08 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/08/2014 11:02 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 12:53:59PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment =

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-08 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Proposed System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FrameworkForServerRoleDeployment Change owner(s): Miloslav Trmač mitr AT volny DOT cz, Fedora Server Working Group server AT lists DOT

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-08 Thread Rob Kearey
This Change, as written, is *extremely* vague, moreso that most other changes that are filed for Fedora. Is it intended to be updated with more information when that becomes available? +1 - What are 'server roles'? Are we just reinventing Ansible/Puppet/et al here? -- Rob K http://ningaui.net

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-08 Thread William Brown
== Detailed Description == A new D-Bus service will be made available, exposing available server roles, making it possible to deploy, configure and manage them. Appropriate functionality will also be exposed as a command-line utility. What does it mean to deploy, configure, and manage a