Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Wed, 2017-08-16 at 14:38 +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:55:14PM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: >> > this change is breaking builds on EPEL7 [1] >> > DEBUG util.py:450: Error: No Package found for

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On Wed, 2017-08-16 at 14:38 +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:55:14PM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > this change is breaking builds on EPEL7 [1] > > DEBUG util.py:450:  Error: No Package found for perl-interpreter > > DEBUG util.py:450:  Error: No Package found for

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:55:14PM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > this change is breaking builds on EPEL7 [1] > DEBUG util.py:450:  Error: No Package found for perl-interpreter > DEBUG util.py:450:  Error: No Package found for perl-interpreter > Yes, because it's a Fedora change. Not EPEL one. >

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 14:35 +, Petr Pisar wrote: > > this change is breaking builds on EPEL7 [1] > DEBUG util.py:450: Error: No Package found for perl-interpreter > DEBUG util.py:450: Error: No Package found for

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 14:35 +, Petr Pisar wrote: this change is breaking builds on EPEL7 [1] DEBUG util.py:450:  Error: No Package found for perl-interpreter DEBUG util.py:450:  Error: No Package found for perl-interpreter Any advice is welcome . Thanks, [1] 

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On 2017-06-15, Jan Kurik wrote: >= Proposed System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/perl_Package_to_Install_Core_Modules > > Change owner(s): > * Petr Písař > > dnf install perl will install all core Perl modules that

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 03:35:46PM +0200, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > > > What does "Recommends" do on upgrade? > > > > > > > > In other words if Recommends was used and a new perl version had > > > > new modules in > > > > the core package would an upgrade of perl pull them in as you > > > > would

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 02:13 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Thursday, 15 June 2017 at 20:05, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On 06/15/2017 02:02 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > > > On 15/06/17 18:27, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > > > > I

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On 06/15/2017 08:13 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Thursday, 15 June 2017 at 20:05, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> On 06/15/2017 02:02 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: >>> On 15/06/17 18:27, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >>> I think you may misunderstand what "Recommends" means. At install-time,

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On Thursday, 15 June 2017 at 20:05, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 06/15/2017 02:02 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > > On 15/06/17 18:27, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > >> I think you may misunderstand what "Recommends" means. At install-time, it > >> will > >> still be pulled into the system as if it was

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On 06/15/2017 02:14 PM, Dan Book wrote: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Emmanuel Seyman > wrote: > > * Stephen Gallagher [15/06/2017 13:27] : > > > > If your intent is to say unequivocally that this system must not > include the >

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Stephen Gallagher [15/06/2017 13:27] : > > > > If your intent is to say unequivocally that this system must not include > the > > perl interpreter unless all of these packages are installed, then that's > when > >

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

* Stephen Gallagher [15/06/2017 13:27] : > > If your intent is to say unequivocally that this system must not include the > perl interpreter unless all of these packages are installed, then that's when > you should use Requires: This is what upstream is requesting. Emmanuel

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On 06/15/2017 02:02 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 15/06/17 18:27, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> I think you may misunderstand what "Recommends" means. At install-time, it >> will >> still be pulled into the system as if it was a "Requires:". The difference is >> that if someone later decides to do

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On 15/06/17 18:27, Stephen Gallagher wrote: I think you may misunderstand what "Recommends" means. At install-time, it will still be pulled into the system as if it was a "Requires:". The difference is that if someone later decides to do 'dnf remove perl-foo', it can be removed without also

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > If that's the case, I think these two approaches are *basically* identical, > except that the metapackage approach will probably cause DNF to misbehave > due to > the "clean_requirements_on_remove=true" default

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On 06/15/2017 10:35 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2017-06-15, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Dne 15.6.2017 v 14:25 Jan Kurik napsal(a): >>> = Proposed System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules = >>>

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 02:35:59PM +, Petr Pisar wrote: > Fedora packages will depend on perl-interpreter package or /usr/bin/perl > file whose installation won't bring all the modules. There will be no > usage for the "perl" package in Fedora package dependency tree. It's > more like a comps

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

On 2017-06-15, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 15.6.2017 v 14:25 Jan Kurik napsal(a): >> = Proposed System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/perl_Package_to_Install_Core_Modules >> >> Change owner(s): >> * Petr Písař >> >>

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

Dne 15.6.2017 v 14:25 Jan Kurik napsal(a): > = Proposed System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/perl_Package_to_Install_Core_Modules > > Change owner(s): > * Petr Písař > > dnf install perl will install all core Perl modules that come

F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

= Proposed System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/perl_Package_to_Install_Core_Modules Change owner(s): * Petr Písař dnf install perl will install all core Perl modules that come with Perl upstream sources. == Detailed Description ==

F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

= Proposed System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/perl_Package_to_Install_Core_Modules Change owner(s): * Petr Písař dnf install perl will install all core Perl modules that come with Perl upstream sources. == Detailed Description ==