On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 1:46 PM Tom Hughes wrote:
>
> On 05/04/2022 18:38, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 1:31 PM Tom Hughes via devel
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 05/04/2022 15:52, Ben Cotton wrote:
> >>
> >>> * There is no migration story from Legacy BIOS to UEFI -
> >>> repartitioning
> Am 05.04.2022 um 16:52 schrieb Ben Cotton :
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS
>
> == Summary ==
> Make UEFI a hardware requirement for new Fedora installations on
> platforms that support it (x86_64). Legacy BIOS support is not
> removed, but new non-UEFI
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 12:39 PM Neal Gompa wrote:
> Fedora Server users *must* fully reinstall, because there's no way to
> make space for an ESP and reconfigure things.
>
I haven't done a "default" Fedora Server installation in a long time, so
I'm not sure how they are laid out. But I seem to
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 12:31 PM Tom Hughes via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On 05/04/2022 15:52, Ben Cotton wrote:
>
> > * There is no migration story from Legacy BIOS to UEFI -
> > repartitioning effectively mandates a reinstall. As a result, we
> > don’t drop support for
On 05/04/2022 18:38, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 1:31 PM Tom Hughes via devel
wrote:
On 05/04/2022 15:52, Ben Cotton wrote:
* There is no migration story from Legacy BIOS to UEFI -
repartitioning effectively mandates a reinstall. As a result, we
don’t drop support for existing
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 1:31 PM Tom Hughes via devel
wrote:
>
> On 05/04/2022 15:52, Ben Cotton wrote:
>
> > * There is no migration story from Legacy BIOS to UEFI -
> > repartitioning effectively mandates a reinstall. As a result, we
> > don’t drop support for existing Legacy BIOS systems yet,
On 05/04/2022 15:52, Ben Cotton wrote:
* There is no migration story from Legacy BIOS to UEFI -
repartitioning effectively mandates a reinstall. As a result, we
don’t drop support for existing Legacy BIOS systems yet, just new
installations.
This is where I have a problem with this, the fact
Am 05.04.22 um 16:52 schrieb Ben Cotton:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS
== Summary ==
Make UEFI a hardware requirement for new Fedora installations on
platforms that support it (x86_64). Legacy BIOS support is not
removed, but new non-UEFI installation is not
Once upon a time, Robbie Harwood said:
> (Just to be clear here: this change is proposing a deprecation, not a
> removal.)
No, the change proposes making it impossible to install Fedora on BIOS.
That's not a deprecation.
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David Duncan writes:
> For similar reasons, I agree with Neal. There are a number of Amazon
> EC2 instance types that would be left out of the next generation. I
> think it would be better to identify the usage in some way and create
> a general awareness that it is being removed prior to
Neal Gompa writes:
> By virtue of how boot stuff is handled in Fedora, the community is
> incapable of working on it.
Not true. Not at all true.
src.fedoraproject.org permits anyone, *anyone* to send PRs to fix issues
in the boot stack, or any other package. Even without it, bugzilla
doesn't
On Tue, 2022-04-05 at 09:33 -0700, David Duncan wrote:
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 2022, at 8:08 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 10:54 AM Ben Cotton
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS
> > >
> > > == Summary ==
> > > Make UEFI a
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022, 11:15 Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 10:54 AM Ben Cotton wrote:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS
> >
> > == Summary ==
> > Make UEFI a hardware requirement for new Fedora installations on
> > platforms that support it (x86_64).
> On Apr 5, 2022, at 8:08 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 10:54 AM Ben Cotton wrote:
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS
>>
>> == Summary ==
>> Make UEFI a hardware requirement for new Fedora installations on
>> platforms that support it
On Tue, Apr 5 2022 at 11:56:07 AM -0400, Robbie Harwood
wrote:
Users wishing to use NVIDIA hardware have the following options:
- Use nouveau (free, open source, cool)
- Sign their own copy of the proprietary driver (involves messing with
certificates, so not appropriate for all users)
-
Neal Gompa writes:
> And we've still failed to get ARM and RISC-V broadly on board with
> UEFI
This statement is not correct. ARM in Fedora is UEFI-only, and we were
both in the Plumbers conversation around RISC-V's booting.
> We also lack solutions for dealing with the NVIDIA driver in
>
* Peter Robinson:
> This is out of context here because you can disable Secure Boot but
> still use UEFI to make that work. You're trying to link to different
> problems together.
I think there's firmware out there which enables Secure Boot
unconditionally in UEFI mode, but still has CSM
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 11:26 AM Peter Robinson wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 4:09 PM Neal Gompa wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 10:54 AM Ben Cotton wrote:
> > >
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS
> > >
> > > == Summary ==
> > > Make UEFI a hardware
On Tue, 2022-04-05 at 10:52 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS
>
> Important, relevant points from that thread (yes, I reread the entire
> thread) that have informed this change:
>
> * Some machines are BIOS-only. This change does not prevent
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 4:09 PM Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 10:54 AM Ben Cotton wrote:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS
> >
> > == Summary ==
> > Make UEFI a hardware requirement for new Fedora installations on
> > platforms that support it
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 10:54 AM Ben Cotton wrote:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS
>
> == Summary ==
> Make UEFI a hardware requirement for new Fedora installations on
> platforms that support it (x86_64). Legacy BIOS support is not
> removed, but new non-UEFI
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS
== Summary ==
Make UEFI a hardware requirement for new Fedora installations on
platforms that support it (x86_64). Legacy BIOS support is not
removed, but new non-UEFI installation is not supported on those
platforms. This is a first
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS
== Summary ==
Make UEFI a hardware requirement for new Fedora installations on
platforms that support it (x86_64). Legacy BIOS support is not
removed, but new non-UEFI installation is not supported on those
platforms. This is a first
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