Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-19 Thread Jonathan Wright via devel
Uh no? There's nothing headed to any Fedora release that will replace or touch redis in any way. The "obsoletes" is commented out in the spec and non-functional, it's only there for note/intent purposes depending on what comes of this change proposal. If I mistakenly pushed something somewhere

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Nathan Scott
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:29 PM Maxwell G wrote: > On Fri Apr 19, 2024 at 14:23 +1000, Nathan Scott wrote: > > The package does not have any Obsoletes, so nothing should happen unless > users take explicit action to install valkey. > Yes, that's my point - if someone installs valkey, their redis

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Maxwell G
On Fri Apr 19, 2024 at 14:23 +1000, Nathan Scott wrote: > Hi Neal, > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 1:02 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 10:43 PM Nathan Scott wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 12:29 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > retaining Redis will just hurt us in

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Nathan Scott
Hi Neal, On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 1:02 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 10:43 PM Nathan Scott wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 12:29 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > [...] > > > retaining Redis will just hurt us in the long term. > > > > Noone is saying we should retain Redis. I'm

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Maxwell G
On Thu Apr 18, 2024 at 11:51 +1000, Nathan Scott wrote: > > > == Owner == > > > * Name: [[User:jonathanspw|Jonathan Wright]] > > > * Email: jonat...@almalinux.org > > > > It would be nice to have Remi who currently maintains redis on board as > > well. > > > > This is the second time this has

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Maxwell G
On 4/18/24 00:51, Remi Collet wrote: Le 17/04/2024 à 18:37, Maxwell G a écrit : On Wed Apr 17, 2024 at 16:38 +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: Thank you for submitting this! I agree we’ll have to get rid of redis in the future, and than such a switch will make a strong statement about our

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-18 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Nathan Scott wrote: > - it could be advantageous if the new compat sub-package contained > the redis binary symlinks & not the primary valkey package (this could > allow valkey and redict packages to coexist, for example). Long-term > we may want to drop those entirely (along with the compat

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-17 Thread Remi Collet
Le 17/04/2024 à 18:37, Maxwell G a écrit : On Wed Apr 17, 2024 at 16:38 +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: Thank you for submitting this! I agree we’ll have to get rid of redis in the future, and than such a switch will make a strong statement about our disapproval to redis about this License

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-17 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 10:43 PM Nathan Scott wrote: > > Hi Neal, > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 12:29 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > [...] > > retaining Redis will just hurt us in the long term. > > Noone is saying we should retain Redis. I'm advocating for a more > appropriate transition that is

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-17 Thread Nathan Scott
Hi Neal, On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 12:29 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > [...] > retaining Redis will just hurt us in the long term. Noone is saying we should retain Redis. I'm advocating for a more appropriate transition that is respectful of the work and expertise the existing package maintainers

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-17 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:52 PM Nathan Scott wrote: > > Hi all, > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 2:38 AM Maxwell G wrote: > > > > Thank you for submitting this! > > +1 > > > > == Owner == > > > * Name: [[User:jonathanspw|Jonathan Wright]] > > > * Email: jonat...@almalinux.org > > > > It would be nice

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-17 Thread Nathan Scott
Hi all, On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 2:38 AM Maxwell G wrote: > > Thank you for submitting this! +1 > > == Owner == > > * Name: [[User:jonathanspw|Jonathan Wright]] > > * Email: jonat...@almalinux.org > > It would be nice to have Remi who currently maintains redis on board as well. > This is the

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-17 Thread Maxwell G
On Wed Apr 17, 2024 at 16:38 +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: Thank you for submitting this! > == Owner == > * Name: [[User:jonathanspw|Jonathan Wright]] > * Email: jonat...@almalinux.org It would be nice to have Remi who currently maintains redis on board as well. > == Detailed Description == > We

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 04:38:32PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > == Contingency Plan == > * Contingency mechanism: (What to do? Who will do it?) Do not > obsolete Redis with Valkey > * Contingency deadline: N/A Hmm, is this coningency. plan realistic at all? IIUC, we can't update redis, so we