Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On 06/21/2018 08:53 AM, David Malcolm wrote: > On Fri, 2018-06-15 at 00:01 +0200, Till Maas wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 08:02:33AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >>> On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 v

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:53:13AM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > It struck me that we could have "I Voted" badges in the Fedora badges > subsystem, so I've filed: > "Family of badges for voting in Fedora elections: "I Voted"" > https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/626 > (possibly with an element

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Fri, 2018-06-15 at 00:01 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 08:02:33AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 > > > votes is really > > > low, even for us:( > > >

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

> > I think that might have a lot to do with the turnout, indeed. I believe >> there's a general perception in the community that FESCo has been doing a >> good job, and there's not really any significant issues involved in the >> election. >> > > But also, consider election burnout. FESCo, Mindsha

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On 06/21/2018 01:46 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I did not, because I could not find any suitable candidates and did not see any reason to vote. Ralf, It's great to see you. Every comment seems to be a polar opposite of anyone that has a discussion. You know you can vote "0" and no candidates

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On 06/14/2018 03:02 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 votes is really low, even for us:( Yes, I was checking out the voter count on other pollings and the turnout is around 100. Disa

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: There's another aspect of burnout: two years is a big commitment. In the past, we've bad people who really were getting burned out or busy with other commitments but who felt they couldn't really step down without abandoning their responsib

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I'd like to suggest a more radical approach then: what if we only hold > elections under two circumstances? > > 1) An existing member steps down and announces that a seat is opening. > > 2) A vote of no-confidence is raised for one or more individuals currently > servin

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

> "MM" == Matthew Miller writes: MM> That seems like we're doing things right! Yes, of course, one nice thing about Fedora is that if you are willing to do work, people will let you do work. But it also might explain why there is something of a lack of candidates for FESCo. There are proba

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 at 21:32, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > "JB" == Josh Boyer writes: > > JB> I know we do a lot of rubber stamping because process requires it. > > This is one of the primary reasons why I lost interest in serving on > FESCo way back in the day. It felt like an endless s

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 02:31:45PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > If I want to be involved in actually making something happen, I just > need to put my head down and do some work. I don't need to be on > FESCo to get things done. That seems like we're doing things right! -- Matthew Miller

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

> "JB" == Josh Boyer writes: JB> I know we do a lot of rubber stamping because process requires it. This is one of the primary reasons why I lost interest in serving on FESCo way back in the day. It felt like an endless stream of feature process documents without much real involvement in an

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 06:06:57AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 10:42 PM Josh Boyer wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:51 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:53 PM Randy Barlo

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 6:08 AM Stephen Gallagher > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 10:42 PM Josh Boyer > wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:51 PM Till Maas wrote: > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400,

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 10:42 PM Josh Boyer > wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:51 PM Till Maas wrote: >> > >> > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: >> > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:53 PM Randy Barlow >>

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 6:08 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 10:42 PM Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:51 PM Till Maas wrote: >> > >> > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: >> > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:53 PM Randy Barlow >> >

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 10:42 PM Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:51 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:53 PM Randy Barlow > > > > > > Downside is that it would be possible (though I'd guess unlikely)

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

I simply forgot to vote this time - saw the announcement was busy with other things and then the elections where already over. Having a longer voting period would have helped but I am not sure if others simply missed it as well. ___ devel mailing list --

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:51 PM Till Maas wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:53 PM Randy Barlow > > > > Downside is that it would be possible (though I'd guess unlikely) for > > > all of FESCo to suddenly change to 9 different peopl

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 6:19 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > Another way to achieve a similar goal (fewer elections) is to have all > > > of FESCo swap in/out together, rather than tick-tocking 4 and 5 seats. > > > This way we keep a y

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Randy Barlow wrote: Another way to achieve a similar goal (fewer elections) is to have all of FESCo swap in/out together, rather than tick-tocking 4 and 5 seats. This way we keep a year long term, but also only one election per year. I recommended against this

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 04:53:58PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > Theory will always become reality at some point. I think there is very > good reasons to keep the staggered approach to electing FESCo members. The lack of candidates and voters is a practical problem that we have now. Not sure if

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > Another way to achieve a similar goal (fewer elections) is to have all > > of FESCo swap in/out together, rather than tick-tocking 4 and 5 seats. > > This way we keep a year long term, but also only one election per year. > > Downside

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 08:02:33AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 votes is > > really > > low, even for us:( > > Yes, I was checking out the voter count on other pollings and

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 23:50 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:53 PM Randy Barlow > > > Downside is that it would be possible (though I'd guess unlikely) > > > for > > > all of FESCo to suddenly change to 9 different p

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:53 PM Randy Barlow > > Downside is that it would be possible (though I'd guess unlikely) for > > all of FESCo to suddenly change to 9 different people and there'd be no > > members who know the current state of

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On 2018-06-14 09:27, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Michael Cronenworth > wrote: On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 votes is really

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:53 PM Randy Barlow wrote: > > On 06/14/2018 12:13 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > >> I would also double the terms served by the candidates (at least for > >> FESCo), since otherwise we'd wind up with twice as many candidates > >> on the ballot at each election, which would m

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On 06/14/2018 12:13 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> I would also double the terms served by the candidates (at least for >> FESCo), since otherwise we'd wind up with twice as many candidates >> on the ballot at each election, which would make the elections more >> confusing (more names to recognize, m

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 09:34:48AM -0500, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > I would also double the terms served by the candidates (at least for > FESCo), since otherwise we'd wind up with twice as many candidates > on the ballot at each election, which would make the elections more > confusing (more n

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 8:27 AM, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote: I've heard from several people (warning anecdata!) that they often don't vote when they are happy with the way things are.  One person specifically said they didn't vote because they liked the whole slate of candidates and were ok w

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > >> I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 votes is >> really >> low, even for us:( >> > > Yes, I was checking out the voter count on other pollings and the tur

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 9:03 AM Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 votes is > > really > > low, even for us:( > > Yes, I was checking out the voter count on other pollings and the turn

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 votes is really low, even for us:( Yes, I was checking out the voter count on other pollings and the turnout is around 100. Disappointing. :( Lack of awareness or advertising? I v

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:06:24AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > Greetings, all! > > The elections for FESCo - May 2018 have concluded, and the results > are shown below. > > FESCo is electing 4 seats this time. A total of 86 ballots were cast, > meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 430 votes

FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

Greetings, all! The elections for FESCo - May 2018 have concluded, and the results are shown below. FESCo is electing 4 seats this time. A total of 86 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 430 votes (86 * 5). The results for the elections are as follows: # votes | na