Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Denys Vlasenko wrote: > Gnome 3 is a usability disaster. I rather like Gnome3. I am a KDE user and through Gnome3, I have managed to discover all kinds of things in KDE that I never knew were there or never knew how to use. Gnome3 is kind of like a simplified KDE4 (imagine a different activity

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Camilo Mesias
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > It's entertaining already to see how people [try to] leave Ubuntu because > of Unity, and to hear that they like Fedora 15's GNOME 3 better. ;) > I did think of commenting that Gnome3 seemed comparable in scope to the change to Unity, but

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 05/07/2011 01:23 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 07 May 2011 13:15:11 -0400, CEK wrote: > >> >> >> >>> > > It's entertaining already to see how people [try to] leave Ubuntu because > of Unity, and to hear that they like Fedora 15's GNOME 3 better. ;) (sorry, going way off topic, but

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 07 May 2011 13:15:11 -0400, CEK wrote: > On 05/07/2011 12:50 PM, Mario Blättermann wrote: > > Am 07.05.2011 16:51, schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: > >> On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 03:58:51PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > >>> On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 11:05 +0100, Camilo Mesias wrote: > > > >

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 05/07/2011 12:50 PM, Mario Blättermann wrote: > Am 07.05.2011 16:51, schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: >> On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 03:58:51PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: >>> On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 11:05 +0100, Camilo Mesias wrote: > GNOME 3. We need a new GNOME as close as possible to the old o

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Mario Blättermann
t will undoubtedly find >>> their way to the various support forums). At the time no-one seemed to >>> pick up on the idea. >>> >>> I wrote a blog post about it, maybe not the best way to help Fedora >>> users so feel free to take the idea and the con

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Camilo Mesias
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: > What and/or how are the extensions to install to help configure/run > gnome-3 better?  I have been using KDE but might try gnome-3 again if > have access or know where to find them > Hi, I have: gnome-shell-extensions-drive-menu-3.0.1-1.f01

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 05:48:46PM -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 08:58, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > > Gnome 3 is a usability disaster. It added some useful things, yes, > > but it also REMOVED some useful things - what a hell!? > > Since when is that a valid development pr

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
t the time no-one seemed to > > pick up on the idea. > > > > I wrote a blog post about it, maybe not the best way to help Fedora > > users so feel free to take the idea and the content and repackage it > > as appropriate. > > > > http://littlethorpe.net/wo

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 17:48 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 08:58, Denys Vlasenko > wrote: > Gnome 3 is a usability disaster. It added some useful things, > yes, > but it also REMOVED some useful things - what a hell!? > Since when is that a

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On 07/05/11 14:18, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On May 7, 2011 5:00 AM, "Frank Murphy" > wrote: > > > > On 06/05/11 23:51, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 09:03, Frank Murphy > > >

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On May 7, 2011 5:00 AM, "Frank Murphy" wrote: > > On 06/05/11 23:51, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 09:03, Frank Murphy > > wrote: > > > > Any plans for a gui replacement for gnome-schedule? > > > > > > It doesn't appear to be abandoned: > > htt

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Misha Shnurapet
07.05.2011, 18:58, "Frank Murphy" : > On 06/05/11 23:51, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > >>  On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 09:03, Frank Murphy >  > wrote: >> >>  Any plans for a gui replacement for gnome-schedule? >> >>  It doesn't appear to be abandoned: >>  http://git.gnome.org

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/05/11 23:51, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 09:03, Frank Murphy > wrote: > > Any plans for a gui replacement for gnome-schedule? > > > It doesn't appear to be abandoned: > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-schedule/log/ > It's obsoleted by g

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-06 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 09:03, Frank Murphy wrote: > Any plans for a gui replacement for gnome-schedule? > It doesn't appear to be abandoned: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-schedule/log/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-06 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 08:58, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > Gnome 3 is a usability disaster. It added some useful things, yes, > but it also REMOVED some useful things - what a hell!? > Since when is that a valid development practice? > Do we hate our users or what? > If you have some constructive fee

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-06 Thread Camilo Mesias
Having used it for a while, I find it more than adequate. Currently F15 is blighted by some undiagnosed crashes for me (Bug 697157) but Gnome 3 just isn't a problem. There are some odd things that can be worked around, but the overall way of working is good. I found myself dragging a Windows XP wi

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-06 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 05/06/2011 08:58 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: Gnome 3 is a usability disaster. It added some useful things, yes, but it also REMOVED some useful things - what a hell!? Since when is that a valid development practice? Do we hate our users or what? While Gnome 3 is a complete rewrite of the usabi

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/05/11 14:58, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > Gnome 3 is a usability disaster. It added some useful things, yes, > but it also REMOVED some useful things - what a hell!? > Since when is that a valid development practice? > Do we hate our users or what? > Any plans for a gui replacement for gnome-s

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-06 Thread Denys Vlasenko
est way to help Fedora > users so feel free to take the idea and the content and repackage it > as appropriate. > > http://littlethorpe.net/wordpress/?p=334 "Fedora 15 Gnome 3 gotchas" > > If nothing else maybe I have included the right words so that users > can Google

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-04-18 Thread Marius Andreiana
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Camilo Mesias wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote a blog post about it, maybe not the best way to help Fedora > users so feel free to take the idea and the content and repackage it > as appropriate. > > Thanks, very useful! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.or

Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-04-16 Thread Camilo Mesias
://littlethorpe.net/wordpress/?p=334 "Fedora 15 Gnome 3 gotchas" If nothing else maybe I have included the right words so that users can Google for 'what the heck happened to my minimise button' or whatever and find some help. -Cam -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fed