Re: Fedora 34 Change: ntp replacement (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-07 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 10:47:31AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Since the plan it to Obsolete the old package, I think you should trigger > on the removal of it: > %triggerun ntp <= ... > > # copy service enablement from the old name to the new name > if systemctl is-enabled -q

Re: Fedora 34 Change: ntp replacement (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 11:05:56AM +0100, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 01:38:02AM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > > == Upgrade/compatibility impact == > > > > > > The `ntp` package is replaced automatically on upgrade to Fedora 34. > > > The configuration file

Re: Fedora 34 Change: ntp replacement (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-07 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 01:38:02AM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > == Upgrade/compatibility impact == > > > > The `ntp` package is replaced automatically on upgrade to Fedora 34. > > The configuration file ''/etc/ntp.conf'' is saved as to > > ''/etc/ntp.conf.rpmsave'' and it needs to be renamed

Re: Fedora 34 Change: ntp replacement (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Björn Persson
> == Upgrade/compatibility impact == > > The `ntp` package is replaced automatically on upgrade to Fedora 34. > The configuration file ''/etc/ntp.conf'' is saved as to > ''/etc/ntp.conf.rpmsave'' and it needs to be renamed to > ''/etc/ntp.conf'' to be used by `ntpsec`. Otherwise, `ntpsec` will >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: ntp replacement (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-02 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 09:29:05AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Tomasz Torcz said: > > There ARE functional changes. Mainly removal of long-obsolete drivers, > > full list can be found at: > > https://docs.ntpsec.org/latest/ntpsec.html#incompatible > >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: ntp replacement (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-02 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tomasz Torcz said: > There ARE functional changes. Mainly removal of long-obsolete drivers, > full list can be found at: > https://docs.ntpsec.org/latest/ntpsec.html#incompatible > https://www.ntpsec.org/removal-plan.html Yeah, this would break my use of NTP, since I use one

Re: Fedora 34 Change: ntp replacement (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-02 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 10:00:04AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > == Release Notes == > > TBD > > > > Makes sense, though I think the release notes section would be pretty > easy to write: > > "The classic ntpd service was formerly provided by the ntp package. > The ntp software has significant

Re: Fedora 34 Change: ntp replacement (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-02 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 10:00:04AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > Makes sense, though I think the release notes section would be pretty > easy to write: > > "The classic ntpd service was formerly provided by the ntp package. > The ntp software has significant security issues and development seems >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: ntp replacement (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-02 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 9:24 AM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NtpReplacement > > == Summary == > > The `ntp` package is replaced with `ntpsec`. > > == Owner == > * Name: [[User:mlichvar| Miroslav Lichvar]] > * Email: mlich...@redhat.com > > == Detailed Description ==

Fedora 34 Change: ntp replacement (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-02 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NtpReplacement == Summary == The `ntp` package is replaced with `ntpsec`. == Owner == * Name: [[User:mlichvar| Miroslav Lichvar]] * Email: mlich...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == `ntp` is one of the few NTP implementations provided in Fedora. It

Fedora 34 Change: ntp replacement (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-02 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NtpReplacement == Summary == The `ntp` package is replaced with `ntpsec`. == Owner == * Name: [[User:mlichvar| Miroslav Lichvar]] * Email: mlich...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == `ntp` is one of the few NTP implementations provided in Fedora. It