Re: Fedora crda To wireless-regdb Upgrade

2018-07-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 11:53:51AM +0200, Nicolas Chauvet wrote: > 2018-07-20 20:47 GMT+02:00 John W. Linville : > [...] > > QUESTIONS > > > > Are there reasons to oppose the Obsolete/Provides upgrade path from > > crda to wireless-regdb? +1 to the upgrade. > Would it be desirable to require

Re: Fedora crda To wireless-regdb Upgrade

2018-07-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 07/21/2018 09:46 AM, Howard Howell wrote: Your idea suffers from one thing... Who will build, maintain and ensure that the database is accurate. World RF spectrum is a tough nut. It flunctuates due to the birth and death of nations, ideology and technology. Moreover some of the standards

Re: Fedora crda To wireless-regdb Upgrade

2018-07-21 Thread Howard Howell
On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 14:47 -0400, John W. Linville wrote: > A mostly "behind the scenes" aspect of the Linux wireless LAN > (IEEE802.11) subsystem has changed upstream with some system-level > effects. Replacing an existing package with a cleaner but > functionally > equivalent package is an

Re: Fedora crda To wireless-regdb Upgrade

2018-07-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
John W. Linville wrote: > Is it acceptable to trust the upstream signature of the wireless > regulatory database? Or do we need to use some sort of Fedora > signature? If the latter, can it be a (semi-)permanent (e.g. per > release) signature, which could be maintained in the kernel sources? Or >

Re: Fedora crda To wireless-regdb Upgrade

2018-07-21 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
2018-07-20 20:47 GMT+02:00 John W. Linville : [...] > QUESTIONS > > Are there reasons to oppose the Obsolete/Provides upgrade path from > crda to wireless-regdb? Would it be desirable to require users to > manually intervene by installing wireless-regdb by hand? FWIW, I do not > see any benefit

Re: Fedora crda To wireless-regdb Upgrade

2018-07-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 7:47 PM, John W. Linville wrote: > A mostly "behind the scenes" aspect of the Linux wireless LAN > (IEEE802.11) subsystem has changed upstream with some system-level > effects. Replacing an existing package with a cleaner but functionally > equivalent package is an

Re: Fedora crda To wireless-regdb Upgrade

2018-07-20 Thread Jeff Johnson
Package renaming using Obsoletes/Provides will be a problem *ONLY* if applications confuse the version of the package with the CRDB format version: these are intrinsically different versions even if there is a single package renaming event that is coincident with the CRDB format change.

Fedora crda To wireless-regdb Upgrade

2018-07-20 Thread John W. Linville
A mostly "behind the scenes" aspect of the Linux wireless LAN (IEEE802.11) subsystem has changed upstream with some system-level effects. Replacing an existing package with a cleaner but functionally equivalent package is an attractive option, but there are questions regarding the update path, how