Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-17 Thread Björn Persson
Jesse Keating wrote: Looking at a set of wiki pages to work on today, I had another thought. We could just call it 'Branched', as in, Fedora 13 has Branched, Branched Freeze Policy, Once a Fedora release has branched from rawhide, , Mark this test-update as stable to go into the Branched

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On 17/02/10 08:31, Björn Persson wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: --snipped-- So when Fedora 13 has been released, is it then no longer branched? It's still branched from Rawhide but it's not in the Branched state anymore. Doesn't that sound a bit awkward? Björn Persson I presume branched will

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 08:34:01 +, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: I presume branched will then be repointed to an alpha F14. rawhide F15 That doesn't happen at the release of F13, but rather at F14 alpha freeze. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On 17/02/10 08:49, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 08:34:01 +, Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote: I presume branched will then be repointed to an alpha F14. rawhide F15 That doesn't happen at the release of F13, but rather at F14 alpha freeze. Sorry bad wording.

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-17 Thread Arthur G
Thanks Dave, Here's one borrowed from the music industry. mastering (or starting with R - remastering) I've used this concept successfully for commercial orgs during their release finalizing stages. Arthur. On 18 February 2010 10:19, David bouncingc...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 February 2010

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:19 PM, David bouncingc...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 February 2010 11:19, Arthur G arthurg.w...@gmail.com wrote: rolling - as in the song - rolling, rolling, rolling, rawhide! +1 giving 3 names for trees/branches: rawhide --- rolling --- release Reasons it appeals

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-16 Thread Jon Masters
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We don't yet have a clever name for

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-16 Thread Adam Miller
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Jon Masters j...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13  That's where we'll be putting things that are tagged for the release

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-16 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We don't yet have a clever name for

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-16 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:21:35 -0800 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things that are tagged for

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-15 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:57:51 -0500, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com wrote: Maybe follow the kernel naming scheme .. 12 is the released version 12.x is what will become 13 .. 13.rc is now a release candidate (no longer development) 13 is released

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:25:03 +0100, Roberto Ragusa m...@robertoragusa.it wrote: The obvious way to call something which is not 13, but is something a little less than 13 is 12.9, but I agree with you that it would be better to have 13 in the name instead of 12, so, logically: 12.0,

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-15 Thread Mail Lists
On 02/15/2010 09:12 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:25:03 +0100, Roberto Ragusa m...@robertoragusa.it wrote: The obvious way to call something which is not 13, but is something a little less than 13 is 12.9, but I agree with you that it would be better to have 13 in

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 11:06 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We don't

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:48 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 21:18 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Why not just call it 13 now, and 14 next time, and so on? It doesn't really need to have its own name that's always the same... Mostly because it becomes awkward to talk about

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-14 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Mail Lists wrote: On 02/13/2010 01:34 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 11:07 -0500, Mail Lists wrote: Pre or Prerelease was the name we used to use for Beta, so that's not saving any confusion there :/ Ok - how about 13-dev ... or 13-frontier .. or 13-alpha .. or even

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-14 Thread Robin Sonefors
On sön, 2010-02-14 at 00:00 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Why can't you just say 'The Fedora 13 repo' and 'things go into Fedora 13'? As others have said, this is how Ubuntu does it and it seems to work fine there. Technically, it's not. Ubuntu uses their animal names for in-development code

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-14 Thread Jesse Keating
this is less of a name for a tree, and more of a name for at tree /state/. The tree is Fedora 13, the /state/ would be term. Think of every place we used the term Pending during our FAD on Friday. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-14 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 16:52, Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote: Rawhide - Rawhide dir as we know it Tanning - Devel branch for next release, in this case 13 Leather - Official release path, in this case, 12. Haikel had already suggested « tanning », and I must say I really like the

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-14 Thread Mail Lists
, it's in RC but that's a lot of names for the same kind of thing. It's branched kind of works, but not really. Maybe this is less of a name for a tree, and more of a name for at tree /state/. The tree is Fedora 13, the /state/ would be term. Think of every place we used the term Pending during

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-14 Thread John Poelstra
for a tree, and more of a name for at tree /state/. The tree is Fedora 13, the /state/ would beterm. Think of every place we used the term Pending during our FAD on Friday. Now that I understand it better, I have changed my mind :) When I look at the picture I don't see as much of need

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-14 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 18:38, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 17:29 +0100, Mathieu Bridon wrote: On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 16:52, Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote: Rawhide - Rawhide dir as we know it Tanning - Devel branch for next release, in this case 13

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-14 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 04:45:32PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We don't yet have a clever

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-14 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 09:37 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: Of course, if wanna keep the gold name for the official release path, could rename other and use below.. bronze - current rawhide silver - current devel branch for next release gold - current officially released branch -- Mike Chambers

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-14 Thread Arthur G
rolling - as in the song - rolling, rolling, rolling, rawhide! On 15 February 2010 11:06, Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 09:37 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: Of course, if wanna keep the gold name for the official release path, could rename other and use below..

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 13/02/2010 01:45, Jesse Keating a écrit : As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We don't yet have a clever name for this

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On 13/02/10 05:18, Adam Williamson wrote: --snipped-- Want to help us come up with a term we could use to reference this tree? Email away! Why not just call it 13 now, and 14 next time, and so on? It doesn't really need to have its own name that's always the same... +2 Easier tell the

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jesse Keating wrote: As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We don't yet have a clever name for this concept yet, and we've just

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We don't yet have a clever name for

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:36 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: rawhide - packages for rawhide dir testing - packages for current development release going to testing stable - packages for current development release going to main dir release - packages for current officially released already gold

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13  That's where we'll be putting things that are tagged for the release after they get through testing.  We don't yet have a clever name for

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:11 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:36 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: rawhide - packages for rawhide dir testing - packages for current development release going to testing stable - packages for current development release going to main dir

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 09:25 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: staging - devel release for main dir We use the term staging when we have are putting things on the master mirror for our other mirrors to pick up (: -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On 13/02/10 00:45, Jesse Keating wrote: As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We don't yet have a clever name for this concept

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Sven Lankes
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 07:48:07AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: Why not just call it 13 now, and 14 next time, and so on? It doesn't really need to have its own name that's always the same... Mostly because it becomes awkward to talk about things in 13 before 13 is released, In my world

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 16:52:55 +0100, Sven Lankes s...@lank.es wrote: On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 07:48:07AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: Why not just call it 13 now, and 14 next time, and so on? It doesn't really need to have its own name that's always the same... Mostly because it

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Mail Lists
On 02/13/2010 01:34 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 11:07 -0500, Mail Lists wrote: Pre or Prerelease was the name we used to use for Beta, so that's not saving any confusion there :/ Ok - how about 13-dev ... or 13-frontier .. or 13-alpha .. or even 13-not-yet-beta

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:11 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:36 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: rawhide - packages for rawhide dir testing - packages for current development release going to testing stable - packages for current development release going to main dir

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:36:00 -0800 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 16:03 +, Frank Murphy wrote: CuredHide Actually, I kind of like where this is going. Rawhide - Curing - Stable braising ... what a meal will it be ... Simo. -- Simo Sorce * Red Hat,

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:39:45 +1000 Dave Airlie airl...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 17:35 -0800, Josh Stone wrote: On 02/12/2010 04:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-12 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Jesse Keating wrote: As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We don't yet have a clever name for this

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-12 Thread Konstantin Ryabitsev
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13  That's where we'll be putting things that are tagged for the release after they get through testing.  We don't yet have

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-12 Thread Adam Miller
vanguard Its got a nice we're leading the way ring to it :) -AdamM -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com - () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -- devel mailing list

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-12 Thread Pierre-Yves
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:48 +0530, Hiemanshu Sharma wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/13/2010 07:17 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:39:45 +1000 Dave Airlie airl...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 17:35 -0800, Josh Stone wrote: On

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We don't yet have a clever name for