Re: OpenSSH SHA-1 deprecation, developing FAQ, etc

2021-03-16 Thread Jakub Jelen
On 3/10/21 6:58 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: Hi all, I put some comments on the OpenSSH mailing list[1] about UpdateHostKeys and other SHA-1 related changes. The OpenSSH release notes simply tell people to update OpenSSH. In practice, people who use distributions like Fedora, RHEL and CentOS are

Re: OpenSSH SHA-1 deprecation, developing FAQ, etc

2021-03-12 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/12/21 6:50 AM, Björn Persson wrote: If both client and server are OpenSSH 7.2 or later, and an ssh-rsa key is involved, then one of the newer signature schemes rsa-sha2-256 and rsa-sha2-512 will be used, and you won't have any trouble. Unless it's OpenSSH server 7.4 (as in Debian 9). 

Re: OpenSSH SHA-1 deprecation, developing FAQ, etc

2021-03-12 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 11/03/2021 23:06, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 03:50:57PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> >> >> On 11/03/2021 12:13, Florian Weimer wrote: >>> * Richard W. M. Jones: >>> I really hope we don't remove the ability to connect to old servers (eg. running RHEL 5). At the

Re: OpenSSH SHA-1 deprecation, developing FAQ, etc

2021-03-12 Thread Björn Persson
Petr Pisar wrote: > V Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 10:53:01AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý napsal(a): > > Do I understand it correctly that soon, I will have trouble connecting to > > > > $(grep ssh-rsa ~/.ssh/known_hosts | cut -f1 -d' ') > > > > hosts? > > Should I regenerate the ssh key there? What is the

Re: OpenSSH SHA-1 deprecation, developing FAQ, etc

2021-03-12 Thread Petr Pisar
V Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 10:53:01AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý napsal(a): > Do I understand it correctly that soon, I will have trouble connecting to > > $(grep ssh-rsa ~/.ssh/known_hosts | cut -f1 -d' ') > > hosts? > Should I regenerate the ssh key there? What is the prefered crypto nowadays? > No.

Re: OpenSSH SHA-1 deprecation, developing FAQ, etc

2021-03-12 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 10. 03. 21 v 18:58 Daniel Pocock napsal(a): - did anybody already write any wiki page, FAQ or guide for Fedora users to navigate the SHA-1 issue in SSH? +1 I do not follow this issue and I would welcome nice HOWTO document. Do I understand it correctly that soon, I will have trouble

Re: OpenSSH SHA-1 deprecation, developing FAQ, etc

2021-03-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 03:50:57PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > On 11/03/2021 12:13, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Richard W. M. Jones: > > > >> I really hope we don't remove the ability to connect to old servers > >> (eg. running RHEL 5). At the moment you have to opt-in by setting the >

Re: OpenSSH SHA-1 deprecation, developing FAQ, etc

2021-03-11 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 3/11/21 5:13 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: In the past (long, long ago), I had to enable Telnet on target devices to work around incompatible cryptography policies. I hope we are not going to return to that. I've had to enable http on my home switches for that very reason, so ... --

Re: OpenSSH SHA-1 deprecation, developing FAQ, etc

2021-03-11 Thread Robert Marcano via devel
On 3/11/21 1:01 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 03:50:57PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: On 11/03/2021 12:13, Florian Weimer wrote: * Richard W. M. Jones: I really hope we don't remove the ability to connect to old servers (eg. running RHEL 5). At the moment you have

Re: OpenSSH SHA-1 deprecation, developing FAQ, etc

2021-03-11 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 03:50:57PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > On 11/03/2021 12:13, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Richard W. M. Jones: > > > >> I really hope we don't remove the ability to connect to old servers > >> (eg. running RHEL 5). At the moment you have to opt-in by setting the >

Re: OpenSSH SHA-1 deprecation, developing FAQ, etc

2021-03-11 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 11/03/2021 12:13, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Richard W. M. Jones: > >> I really hope we don't remove the ability to connect to old servers >> (eg. running RHEL 5). At the moment you have to opt-in by setting the >> crypto-policy to LEGACY and running update-crypto-policies(8), which >> is

Re: OpenSSH SHA-1 deprecation, developing FAQ, etc

2021-03-11 Thread Florian Weimer
* Richard W. M. Jones: > I really hope we don't remove the ability to connect to old servers > (eg. running RHEL 5). At the moment you have to opt-in by setting the > crypto-policy to LEGACY and running update-crypto-policies(8), which > is bearable. In the past (long, long ago), I had to

Re: OpenSSH SHA-1 deprecation, developing FAQ, etc

2021-03-11 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 06:58:51PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Hi all, > > I put some comments on the OpenSSH mailing list[1] about UpdateHostKeys > and other SHA-1 related changes. > > The OpenSSH release notes simply tell people to update OpenSSH. In > practice, people who use

OpenSSH SHA-1 deprecation, developing FAQ, etc

2021-03-10 Thread Daniel Pocock
Hi all, I put some comments on the OpenSSH mailing list[1] about UpdateHostKeys and other SHA-1 related changes. The OpenSSH release notes simply tell people to update OpenSSH. In practice, people who use distributions like Fedora, RHEL and CentOS are going to wait for a package. Security