Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-24 Thread Martyn Foster
On 20 February 2015 at 16:54, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote: On 02/16/2015 04:17 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I don't buy this argument wrt. Fedora. Fedora is a rapid moving, forward looking distro, in which such regressions should be fixed and not be worked around by compat-libs.

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-20 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de*/ wrote on Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:17:32 +0100: On 02/16/2015 05:10 PM, Martyn Foster wrote: On 16 February 2015 at 15:12, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at mailto:kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Christopher Meng wrote: Maintaining several version

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-20 Thread Casey Jao
On 02/16/2015 08:17 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 02/16/2015 05:10 PM, Martyn Foster wrote: On 16 February 2015 at 15:12, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at mailto:kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Christopher Meng wrote: Maintaining several version of the same library is not easy as

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I don't buy this argument wrt. Fedora. Fedora is a rapid moving, forward looking distro, in which such regressions should be fixed and not be worked around by compat-libs. In ideal conditions, this is fine but in the real world,

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-20 Thread Andrew Haley
On 02/16/2015 04:17 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I don't buy this argument wrt. Fedora. Fedora is a rapid moving, forward looking distro, in which such regressions should be fixed and not be worked around by compat-libs. That rather assumes that the only use for Fedora libraries is running

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-16 Thread Martyn Foster
On 16 February 2015 at 15:12, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Christopher Meng wrote: Maintaining several version of the same library is not easy as you think, basically once a developer wants to install version X while then another people want to deploy things based on version

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-16 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/16/2015 05:10 PM, Martyn Foster wrote: On 16 February 2015 at 15:12, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at mailto:kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Christopher Meng wrote: Maintaining several version of the same library is not easy as you think, basically once a developer wants

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Christopher Meng wrote: Maintaining several version of the same library is not easy as you think, basically once a developer wants to install version X while then another people want to deploy things based on version Y, how to crack this nut? You can't just care about runtime. Then you need

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 03:21:17PM +0330, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: Summary: I have a proposal to make it easier for maintainers to have multiple versions of the same library in distro (by making it *naturally* Mageia has something, but only meant to transition from one library version to the

Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-14 Thread Christopher Meng
Who will review the new packages of these multiple versions? If we don't review it I think it's horrible to carry obsolete stuffs. Maintaining several version of the same library is not easy as you think, basically once a developer wants to install version X while then another people want to

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/14/2015 09:38 AM, Christopher Meng wrote: Who will review the new packages of these multiple versions? The process having been applied so far is the adding a compat-package. In most cases this basically means to fork-off a package from an existing package and have this package

Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
Dear all, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I didn't find any. Summary: I have a proposal to make it easier for maintainers to have multiple versions of the same library in distro (by making it *naturally* possible) (and with minimal maintenance overhead), and for

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 15:21 +0330, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: Dear all, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I didn't find any. Summary: I have a proposal to make it easier for maintainers to have multiple versions of the same library in distro (by making it *naturally* possible)

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Rex Dieter
Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: It is possible, but it'll need package reviews for each new version. Yes, it is a new package so a new review will be required (for either the old-compat or the new-parallel-installable version). this requirement for an additional review is likely non-negotiable.

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Rex Dieter
Rex Dieter wrote: Sure, additional documentation is always welcome. Are you willing to help write some? My apologies, re-reading the whole thread, including the initial post, I see you did have a specific proposal... to which I responded separately to a couple of points (but otherwise, a

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:21:17 +0330 Hedayat Vatankhah hedayat@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I didn't find any. ...snip... Proposal: let's make it possible to have multiple versions of the same library installed, as far as their .so

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Jamie Duncan
/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable Dear all, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I didn't find any. Summary: I have a proposal to make it easier for maintainers to have multiple versions of the same library in distro (by making it *naturally

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.02.2015 um 21:42 schrieb Hedayat Vatankhah: I'm not sure if things will be (much) worse than the current situation. Maintainers already do maintain multiple versions of the same library, and also the upgrade path from a Fedora release to the next should work. My assumption was that the