Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

2013-01-31 Thread Jiri Popelka
On 01/29/2013 07:10 PM, Benjamin De Kosnik wrote: 4) In the past, I've found it difficult to debug cups filters step by step. Especially with so many rasterization/filter changes. As part of the move to 1.6, will things like: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_printing_problems be

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

2013-01-31 Thread Benjamin De Kosnik
I updated that section, hopefully the filter pipeline is now more understandable. Thanks Jiri. I'll try your packages on F18, with these docs, and give you some more constructive feedback. -benjamin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

2013-01-31 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Benjamin De Kosnik b...@redhat.com wrote: Quality evaluation needs test targets/documents, and eyeballs. I think you mean trained eyeballs above. I guess in some cases that's useful. But surprisingly a lot is tested without anyone looking. If they had,

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

2013-01-30 Thread Jiri Popelka
On 01/29/2013 07:10 PM, Benjamin De Kosnik wrote: 1) is there a way to test just the cups-1.6 stuff on F18? Or will people who want to help with this effort be running rawhide? Either run rawhide or use builds from http://jpopelka.fedorapeople.org/cups-1.6/ which is what I run here on F18.

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

2013-01-30 Thread Benjamin De Kosnik
Thanks! 3) in how to test there is no mention of print quality regressions. I'm concerned that in the effort to sync with cups-1.6 and upstream, mostly just the mechanics of finding a printer and getting a page out are being tested. This is just scratching the surface. How are you

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

2013-01-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Benjamin De Kosnik b...@redhat.com wrote: This is just scratching the surface. How are you going to evaluate quality? I'm concerned about the rasterization changes, the filter changes. Hopefully 1.6 may solve some of the image-quality regressions I've been

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

2013-01-30 Thread Benjamin De Kosnik
Quality evaluation needs test targets/documents, and eyeballs. I think you mean trained eyeballs above. ;) There are already sample regression tests in RH bugzilla for page size/resolution. All these fancy color-calibration mechanisms in gnome/cups/ghostscript are useless for me

Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

2013-01-29 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/CUPS1.6 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CUPS1.6 Feature owner(s): Tim Waugh twa...@redhat.com, Jiri Popelka jpope...@redhat.com Update CUPS to the latest upstream release and use PDF rather than PostScript as baseline document format. == Detailed description == CUPS 1.6

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

2013-01-29 Thread Benjamin De Kosnik
= Features/CUPS1.6 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CUPS1.6 Feature owner(s): Tim Waugh twa...@redhat.com, Jiri Popelka jpope...@redhat.com Update CUPS to the latest upstream release and use PDF rather than PostScript as baseline document format. Yay. Thanks for doing this.

Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

2013-01-29 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/CUPS1.6 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CUPS1.6 Feature owner(s): Tim Waugh twa...@redhat.com, Jiri Popelka jpope...@redhat.com Update CUPS to the latest upstream release and use PDF rather than PostScript as baseline document format. == Detailed description == CUPS 1.6