Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-15 Thread Rex Dieter
Stephen Gallagher wrote: From my perspective, there are three ways that we could choose to go: 1) Follow the default DNF behavior: Requires: and Recommends: packages are included on the install media (and therefore also installed together onto the target system) +1 to this option -- Rex

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-13 Thread Radek Holy
- Original Message - From: Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 2:05:24 PM Subject: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process (Please keep the conversation

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-13 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 22:53 -0500, Jon wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: ... From my perspective, there are three ways that we could choose to go: 1) Follow the default DNF behavior: Requires: and Recommends: packages are

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: (Please keep the conversation on the devel list; I'm CCing it the rel -eng list to make sure all the relevant people see the initial message) This past week, the Fedora Packaging Committee approved the use of weak

RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
(Please keep the conversation on the devel list; I'm CCing it the rel -eng list to make sure all the relevant people see the initial message) This past week, the Fedora Packaging Committee approved the use of weak dependencies in Fedora. What this means is that RPM packages can now have three

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: From my perspective, there are three ways that we could choose to go: 1) Follow the default DNF behavior: Requires: and Recommends: packages are included on the install media (and therefore also installed together

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Jon
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: (Please keep the conversation on the devel list; I'm CCing it the rel -eng list to make sure all the relevant people see the initial message) Nod, thanks for that! This past week, the Fedora Packaging Committee

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 08:20 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: You didn't offer your opinion on which of the three options you think we should go with. I would offer option 1 is the one we'd pick. It honors the intentions of the package maintainer the best. Which would you choose? Option 2 is just

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 08:20 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: (Please keep the conversation on the devel list; I'm CCing it the rel -eng list to make sure all the relevant people see the initial message) This

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 07:56 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 08:20 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: You didn't offer your opinion on which of the three options you think we should go with. I would offer option 1 is the one we'd pick. It honors the intentions of the

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 13:06 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: On Friday, July 10, 2015 08:05:24 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote: (Please keep the conversation on the devel list; I'm CCing it the rel -eng list to make sure all the relevant people see the initial message) This past week, the

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Friday, July 10, 2015 08:05:24 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote: (Please keep the conversation on the devel list; I'm CCing it the rel -eng list to make sure all the relevant people see the initial message) This past week, the Fedora Packaging Committee approved the use of weak dependencies in

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 08:05:24AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: 1) Follow the default DNF behavior: Requires: and Recommends: packages are included on the install media (and therefore also installed together onto the target system) Can this have the inverse of the case in #3 (where

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 08:05:24AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: 1) Follow the default DNF behavior: Requires: and Recommends: packages are included on the install media (and therefore also installed together