Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-07 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mer 6 novembre 2013 21:39, Bruno Wolff III a écrit : On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 12:30:37 -0800, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: FWIW the ship has probably sailed now, but I really don't think it'd be much of a problem to have 3.12 in F20 at release time. It's what I've been

Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Justin M. Forbes
We have a slight issue with the 3.12 kernel timing in that it is too late to push it into Fedora 20, but too far away from the Fedora 20 release to just ignore the 3.13 development cycle until we can push 3.12. As a result, we will be tracking 3.12 and stable updates for it in the rawhide-nodebug

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 08:00:33 -0600, Justin M. Forbes jmfor...@linuxtx.org wrote: We have a slight issue with the 3.12 kernel timing in that it is too late to push it into Fedora 20, but too far away from the Fedora 20 release to just ignore the 3.13 development cycle until we can push

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-11-06 at 08:00 -0600, Justin M. Forbes wrote: We have a slight issue with the 3.12 kernel timing in that it is too late to push it into Fedora 20, but too far away from the Fedora 20 release to just ignore the 3.13 development cycle until we can push 3.12. As a result, we will be

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-11-06 at 08:00 -0600, Justin M. Forbes wrote: We have a slight issue with the 3.12 kernel timing in that it is too late to push it into Fedora 20, but too far away from the Fedora 20 release to just ignore

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 12:30:37 -0800, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: FWIW the ship has probably sailed now, but I really don't think it'd be much of a problem to have 3.12 in F20 at release time. It's what I've been running on my F20 box here for the last several weeks anyway,

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.11.2013 21:37, schrieb Josh Boyer: On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: FWIW the ship has probably sailed now, but I really don't think it'd be much of a problem to have 3.12 in F20 at release time. It's what I've been running on my F20 box here

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 12:30:37 -0800, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: FWIW the ship has probably sailed now, but I really don't think it'd be much of a problem to have 3.12 in F20 at release time. It's what

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 15:42:56 -0500, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Are you running any ARM machines? My understanding is that our F20 kernel has patches that enable important ARM stuff that isn't in rawhide (3.12) because it was conflicting with the churn. So that would

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 12:30:37 -0800, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: FWIW the ship has probably sailed now, but I really don't

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Peter Robinson
Are you running any ARM machines? My understanding is that our F20 kernel has patches that enable important ARM stuff that isn't in rawhide (3.12) because it was conflicting with the churn. So that would need to be added and tested, given ARM is primary on F20. Not with 3.12. The only ARM

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 12:30:37 -0800, Adam Williamson

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Peter Robinson
Are you running any ARM machines? My understanding is that our F20 kernel has patches that enable important ARM stuff that isn't in rawhide (3.12) because it was conflicting with the churn. So that would need to be added and tested, given ARM is primary on F20. The main issue here is

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-11-06 at 15:37 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-11-06 at 08:00 -0600, Justin M. Forbes wrote: We have a slight issue with the 3.12 kernel timing in that it is too late to push it into Fedora 20, but

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-11-06 at 15:42 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 12:30:37 -0800, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: FWIW the ship has probably sailed now, but I really don't think it'd be much

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-11-06 at 15:37 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-11-06 at 08:00 -0600, Justin M. Forbes wrote: We have a slight issue with

Re: Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

2013-11-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 6, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-11-06 at 08:00 -0600, Justin M. Forbes wrote: We have a slight issue with the 3.12 kernel timing in that it is too late to push it