Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-11 Thread Benjamin Lewis
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 13:56 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote: Fedora don't conduct election business of any sort via email. But since email is probably the #1 means of communication within the Fedora project, elections are *publicised* via email (as well

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-11 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 11:42 -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - On 12/10/2012 04:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: c) how do you define 'contributor' ? Active fas account... So cla_done as it's requirement for elections (Board,

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-11 Thread Benjamin Lewis
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 11:42 -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - On 12/10/2012 04:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: c) how do you define 'contributor' ? Active fas account... So cla_done as it's

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-11 Thread inode0
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Benjamin Lewis ben.le...@benl.co.uk wrote: There is really no reason why the election messages couldn't go to all of FAS, and just have a note explaining that you need cla_done to vote. There is equally no reason, aside from it being more admin work, why you

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
inode0 wrote: People working on the elections certainly try to make the community aware of the elections. Unfortunately we never seem to be able to get everyone's attention. One issue is that the voting period is just too short. This time, I found out about the elections 6-7 minutes after

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-11 Thread inode0
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: inode0 wrote: People working on the elections certainly try to make the community aware of the elections. Unfortunately we never seem to be able to get everyone's attention. One issue is that the voting period is

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-11 Thread Benjamin Lewis
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012, inode0 wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Benjamin Lewis ben.le...@benl.co.uk wrote: There is really no reason why the election messages couldn't go to all of FAS, and just have a note explaining that you need cla_done to vote. There is equally no reason, aside from

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 06:50:59 -0800, Brian C. Lane wrote: I just saw the Fedora election results, and was surprised to learn there had been an election. After some digging I figured out what happened. Robyn sends her announce emails to: announce@, devel-announce@, test-announce@ I saw the

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - I just saw the Fedora election results, and was surprised to learn there had been an election. After some digging I figured out what happened. Robyn sends her announce emails to: announce@, devel-announce@, test-announce@ I saw the nomination email and the

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Peter Jones
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:10:54AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - I just saw the Fedora election results, and was surprised to learn there had been an election. After some digging I figured out what happened. Robyn sends her announce emails to: announce@,

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:10:54AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - I just saw the Fedora election results, and was surprised to learn there had been an election. After some digging I figured out what happened. Robyn

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:20:55 -0500 (EST), Jaroslav Reznik wrote: I think this is not good - every contributor should be subscribed to announce list (with cla_done). So you're blaming people who didn't recieve the email they expected on devel-announce@ for not recieving it?

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 December 2012 15:25, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:20:55 -0500 (EST), Jaroslav Reznik wrote: I think this is not good - every contributor should be subscribed to announce list (with cla_done). So you're blaming people who didn't recieve

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread inode0
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Brian C. Lane b...@redhat.com wrote: I just saw the Fedora election results, and was surprised to learn there had been an election. After some digging I figured out what happened. Robyn sends her announce emails to: announce@, devel-announce@, test-announce@

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:28:22 +, Ian Malone wrote: I think this is not good - every contributor should be subscribed to announce list (with cla_done). So you're blaming people who didn't recieve the email they expected on devel-announce@ for not recieving it? Seems

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:59:03 -0600, inode0 wrote: Looks like it was sent to the devel list as well. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-December/174779.html 417 messages in December so far! Too easy to miss the announcement, if one doesn't pay attention to that list for some

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:02:46 +0100 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: Did anyone claim that? - No. Years ago I've suggested creating a list where to address all contributors. One list that would be mandatory to subscribe to. Not multiple lists. I fear that has a number of

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread inode0
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:59:03 -0600, inode0 wrote: Looks like it was sent to the devel list as well. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-December/174779.html 417 messages in December so far! Too

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 12/10/2012 04:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: c) how do you define 'contributor' ? Active fas account... JBG -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Or, as another thought: announce - general announcements for all of fedora devel-announce - only announcements that have to do with package maintainers/developers. and then make sure the announce posts also post to the devel-announce list, as thats a subset and we want everyone to get those

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:59:03 -0600, inode0 wrote: Looks like it was sent to the devel list as well. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-December/174779.html 417 messages in December so far! Too easy to miss the announcement, if one doesn't

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - On 12/10/2012 04:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: c) how do you define 'contributor' ? Active fas account... So cla_done as it's requirement for elections (Board, FAmSCo) - at least it should suit elections announcement. R. JBG -- devel mailing list

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 December 2012 16:02, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:28:22 +, Ian Malone wrote: I think this is not good - every contributor should be subscribed to announce list (with cla_done). So you're blaming people who didn't recieve the email

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:35:52AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: I really like to see all contributors subscribed to one announce list. And I was surprised when I realized, after four years in Fedora, that announce list is optional (maybe I did not

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:33:33 -0600, inode0 wrote: Looks like it was sent to the devel list as well. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-December/174779.html 417 messages in December so far! Too easy to miss the announcement, if one doesn't pay attention to that list

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread inode0
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:33:33 -0600, inode0 wrote: Looks like it was sent to the devel list as well. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-December/174779.html 417 messages in December so far!

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:55:37 -0600, inode0 wrote: My recommendation at this point is to guarantee the announcement will go to the main announce list. You can be sure you will get it if you subscribe to that. We will also announce it all over the place as we always do, on various mailing

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Vickery
Brian's comments sound a lot like those that I made to another email group that I was once part of - email may be awesome for communication, but it is a truly horrible avenue for conducting parliamentary business of any sort, the least of which are elections and voting. If there were money

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 08:35:33PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:55:37 -0600, inode0 wrote: My recommendation at this point is to guarantee the announcement will go to the main announce list. You can be sure you will get

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 11:42 -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - On 12/10/2012 04:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: c) how do you define 'contributor' ? Active fas account... So cla_done as it's requirement for elections (Board, FAmSCo) - at least it should suit

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 13:56 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote: Brian's comments sound a lot like those that I made to another email group that I was once part of - email may be awesome for communication, but it is a truly horrible avenue for conducting parliamentary business of any sort, the least