Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-23 Thread Lukas Zapletal
On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 06:51:26PM +0200, tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote: The ultimate software center is a web application, like Google playstore. +1 Why to waste time creating a desktop app when this could be in the cloud already. Plus this could be turned into a desktop web app easily,

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Jiri Eischmann
tim.laurid...@gmail.com píše v Ne 07. 10. 2012 v 18:51 +0200: On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, the possibility of Software Center in Fedora has already been discussed several times, last time a few month ago.

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Reindl Harald píše v Ne 07. 10. 2012 v 20:02 +0200: Am 07.10.2012 19:55, schrieb drago01: Maybe maybe not. The point is that a fancy software shop would result into this old mother type of user consider to use fedora. A user ultimately don't care about packages but about applications.

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 09:32:33PM +0300, Nikos Roussos wrote: I still haven't understand what it takes to get this started. Besides of course from having some people dedicating some time on that. Convincing infrastructure team is the first step? Does this need to get through FESCO first?

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.10.2012 10:49, schrieb Jiri Eischmann: Reindl Harald píše v Ne 07. 10. 2012 v 20:02 +0200: why have we different operating systems and distributions if all satisfies the same user-base for every price? there is also a need for a clean and straight forwarded linux without compromises

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/08/2012 10:49 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: Reindl Harald píše v Ne 07. 10. 2012 v 20:02 +0200: Am 07.10.2012 19:55, schrieb drago01: Maybe maybe not. The point is that a fancy software shop would result into this old mother type of user consider to use fedora. A user ultimately don't care

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Nikos Roussos
On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 16:49 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 10/08/2012 10:49 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: Reindl Harald píše v Ne 07. 10. 2012 v 20:02 +0200: Am 07.10.2012 19:55, schrieb drago01: Maybe maybe not. The point is that a fancy software shop would result into this old mother type

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Álvaro Castillo
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Nikos Roussos comzer...@fedoraproject.orgwrote: ** On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 16:49 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 10/08/2012 10:49 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: Reindl Harald píše v Ne 07. 10. 2012 v 20:02 +0200: Am 07.10.2012 19:55, schrieb drago01: Maybe maybe

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 5 October 2012 15:42, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 October 2012 16:19, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com wrote: 1) Software Center based on PackageKit by Matthias 2) Light Software Center - a new app based on PackageKit from the beginning 3) Apper already supports

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread drago01
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: [...] There needs to be web design, web application coding, processes for getting applications in and approved, servers and disk space for this. Those are the hardest part and it is a blocker because if no one is

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 10:39:21PM +0200, drago01 wrote: No one but Tim asked for a web based solution. We don't need an application submission process either, just present the applications we have in a more usable manner (i.e applications not packages). The code for a native application

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 22:39:21 +0200 drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: [...] There needs to be web design, web application coding, processes for getting applications in and approved, servers and disk space for this.

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Matthew Miller [08/10/2012 23:04] : Is there more? You'll need icons, licenses, ratings, reviews and a (much) more detailed description than the one in the .desktop file. Bonus points if you include screenshots as well. Emmanuel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread drago01
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 October 2012 14:39, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: [...] There needs to be web design, web application coding, processes for

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 11:09:17PM +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: Is there more? You'll need icons, licenses, ratings, reviews and a (much) more detailed description than the one in the .desktop file. Bonus points if you include screenshots as well. Oh; yes -- that's an Open Collaboration

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 03:09:38PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: Dude.. metadata has to be served from something. It has to be updated from somewhere.. it has to have some sort of way to get to the client. That is a web application. The software has to be stored somewhere to Well, looks

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 8 October 2012 15:09, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 October 2012 14:39, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: [...] There needs to be web design, web application coding, processes for getting

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 11:18:33PM +0200, drago01 wrote: That is a web application. No it isn't. The software has to be stored somewhere to be gotten from.. and that requires disk space, front end servers, and other infrastructure. This is not about a webportal just some files on

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:16:28 -0400 Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 11:18:33PM +0200, drago01 wrote: That is a web application. No it isn't. The software has to be stored somewhere to be gotten from.. and that requires disk space, front end

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-07 Thread tim.laurid...@gmail.com
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, the possibility of Software Center in Fedora has already been discussed several times, last time a few month ago. I read an article about a successful Google Summer of Code project [1] whose goal was to make

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-07 Thread drago01
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 6:51 PM, tim.laurid...@gmail.com tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, the possibility of Software Center in Fedora has already been discussed several times, last time a few month ago. I read an

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-07 Thread Antonio Trande
The ultimate software center is a web application, like Google playstore. All the rating and commenting and other info, need to be centrally maintained and it is not a good idea to try to distribute this kind of metadata. There shall just be a local installer to install the packages

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-07 Thread Nikos Roussos
drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: A user ultimately don't care about packages but about applications. Other distritors are moving in this direction while we fall behind. We should lead here like we do in other areas. +1 I still haven't understand what it takes to get this started. Besides of

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.10.2012 19:55, schrieb drago01: Maybe maybe not. The point is that a fancy software shop would result into this old mother type of user consider to use fedora. A user ultimately don't care about packages but about applications. Other distritors are moving in this direction while we fall

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-07 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Nikos Roussos [07/10/2012 20:41] : I still haven't understand what it takes to get this started. Besides of course from having some people dedicating some time on that. Convincing infrastructure team is the first step? Does this need to get through FESCO first? You'll probably want to read

Re: Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

2012-10-05 Thread Richard Hughes
On 5 October 2012 16:19, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com wrote: 1) Software Center based on PackageKit by Matthias 2) Light Software Center - a new app based on PackageKit from the beginning 3) Apper already supports AppStream [2] Basically, Fedora needs to ship Appstream metadata and