Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-18 Thread Javier Martinez Canillas
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:20 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:51 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: >> On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 12:06 +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: >>> == Scope == >>> * Proposal owners: >>> ** Generate BLS snippets at kernel build time and ship in the kernel >>> packages.

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-18 Thread Chris Murphy
Also, another question about $BOOT as VFAT, is asking the kdump folks if they're OK with the proposed change? Because right now kdump expects to use /boot, which is historically ext4 for a long time now, for kernel crash files. Or if they're better off writing crash files somewhere in /var ? When

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Ondřej Lysoněk wrote: > I also have a question regarding interoperability with distros which do > not support BLS. Suppose I install Fedora with BLS enabled and then > beside that install some distro which doesn't support BLS. The second > distro will probably

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:27 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Do, 14.06.18 14:20, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > >> The cited BLS spec is the original one, not the more thoroughly >> discussed and thought through variant by Matthew Garrett [1] some >> years ago. > > Quite

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 11:17:50AM -0400, Peter Jones wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:40:50PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 15:10 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:51:33AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > ** Have a grubby wrapper for

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-18 Thread Peter Jones
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:40:50PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 15:10 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:51:33AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > ** Have a grubby wrapper for backward compatbility that manipulates BLS > > > > files. > > > >

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-18 Thread Ondřej Lysoněk
Hi, On 18.6.2018 15:27, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Do, 14.06.18 14:20, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > >> The cited BLS spec is the original one, not the more thoroughly >> discussed and thought through variant by Matthew Garrett [1] some >> years ago. > > Quite frankly, as

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-18 Thread Ondřej Lysoněk
Hi, On 14.6.2018 12:06, Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BootLoaderSpecByDefault > > > Owner(s): > * Javier Martinez Canillas > * Peter Jones > > > Use BootLoaderSpec fragment files by default to

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Do, 14.06.18 14:20, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > The cited BLS spec is the original one, not the more thoroughly > discussed and thought through variant by Matthew Garrett [1] some > years ago. Quite frankly, as one of the authors of the original BLS spec, I can'd say

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:51 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 12:06 +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: >> == Scope == >> * Proposal owners: >> ** Generate BLS snippets at kernel build time and ship in the kernel >> packages. >> ** Make kernel-install scripts to copy the BLS, kernel and

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 15:10 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:51:33AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > ** Have a grubby wrapper for backward compatbility that manipulates BLS > > > files. > > > > What exactly is the plan for upgrades, here? > > I *assume* it's what

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:51:33AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > ** Have a grubby wrapper for backward compatbility that manipulates BLS > > files. > What exactly is the plan for upgrades, here? I *assume* it's what the "grubby wrapper" is there for? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 12:06 +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > == Scope == > * Proposal owners: > ** Generate BLS snippets at kernel build time and ship in the kernel packages. > ** Make kernel-install scripts to copy the BLS, kernel and initramfs > images and do any architecture specific task. > ** Make

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