Matt,
You're correct, I was being very dramatic. I've since talked to Otaylor, and
the only real problem is that the announcement of this change is misleading.
Fedora isn't "filtering" anything, you're adding Flathub packages in a place
they weren't available before. The announcement reads
On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 03:58:46PM -, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Thank you for your decision to destroy Silverblue, the best thing Fedora has
> done in the last 10 years.
Um. This seems a little over-dramatic.
> If another vendor like Ubuntu or Docker were to do this kind of surprise
> filtering
Ben, FESCO:
Thank you for your decision to destroy Silverblue, the best thing Fedora has
done in the last 10 years.
The only thing that makes Silverblue useful -- indeed, superior -- as a desktop
is the ready availability of Flatpaks for any application the user could want.
Unlike
On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 6:14 PM Fabio Valentini wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 10:26 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Filtered_Flathub_Applications
> >
> > == Summary ==
> > Enabling third-party repositories will now create a Flathub remote
> > that is a
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 10:26 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
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> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Filtered_Flathub_Applications
>
> == Summary ==
> Enabling third-party repositories will now create a Flathub remote
> that is a filtered view of Flathub.
I have a few questions / concerns with this
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:26 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
wrote:
>
> On 30/06/2021 14:44, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > Setting up an independent non-profit, and maintaining it's non-profit
> > status is a quite involved activity. (details depend on the country,
> > of course!)
>
> If Flathub want to be
On 30/06/2021 14:44, Owen Taylor wrote:
Setting up an independent non-profit, and maintaining it's non-profit
status is a quite involved activity. (details depend on the country,
of course!)
If Flathub want to be a trustworthy repository, it should be done.
Hopefully this
provides some
On 30/06/2021 14:30, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
Well that's required for anything not present in the runtime.
That's why I prefer classic RPM packages over Flatpaks.
I use Flatpaks only for proprietary software like Steam (with a lot of
permission hardening overrides).
I believe hardening
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 7:44 AM Ian McInerney wrote:
>> Roughly speaking, the criteria for including software is a) will not
>> cause legal or other problems for Fedora to point to b) does not
>> overlap Fedora Flatpaks or software in Fedora that could easily be
>> made into a Flatpak c) works
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 6:42 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
wrote:
>
> On 29/06/2021 22:25, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > Enabling third-party repositories will now create a Flathub remote
> > that is a filtered view of Flathub.
>
> I don't trust Flathub at all, because they don't want to register a
>
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 2:31 PM Michael Catanzaro
wrote:
> I believe hardening flags are added in by flatpak-builder. I think they
> somehow come from the runtime, though I'm not sure exactly how.
> (Anybody know?)
>
Yes: there's a flatpak-builder config file in
On Wed, Jun 30 2021 at 12:41:17 PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
wrote:
They
bundle lots of libraries,
Well that's required for anything not present in the runtime.
don't use C/C++ build hardening flags, etc.
I believe hardening flags are added in by flatpak-builder. I think they
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 8:09 AM Ian McInerney wrote:
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> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:47 PM Neal Gompa wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 7:43 AM Ian McInerney
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 9:26 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:47 PM Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 7:43 AM Ian McInerney
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 9:26 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
> >>
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Filtered_Flathub_Applications
> >>
> >> == Summary ==
> >> Enabling third-party
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 7:43 AM Ian McInerney wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 9:26 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Filtered_Flathub_Applications
>>
>> == Summary ==
>> Enabling third-party repositories will now create a Flathub remote
>> that is a filtered
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 9:26 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Filtered_Flathub_Applications
>
> == Summary ==
> Enabling third-party repositories will now create a Flathub remote
> that is a filtered view of Flathub.
>
>
> == Detailed Description ==
> 'Note that
On 30/06/2021 12:57, Miro Hrončok wrote:
Similar situation as with the Fedora Project, I must say.
Yes. Fedora's infra belongs to Red Hat, Inc.
--
Sincerely,
Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)
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On 30. 06. 21 12:41, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
I don't trust Flathub at all, because they don't want to register a non-profit
organization. They can easily sell their business like FreeNode did recently.
Similar situation as with the Fedora Project, I must say.
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Miro Hrončok
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On 29/06/2021 22:25, Ben Cotton wrote:
Enabling third-party repositories will now create a Flathub remote
that is a filtered view of Flathub.
I don't trust Flathub at all, because they don't want to register a
non-profit organization. They can easily sell their business like
FreeNode did
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